Re: [Spooks] HAARP

2011-02-12 Thread Tom H
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As well as renting out the facility to universities for research, HAARP does 
some research for the USAF as well. Maybe this is what what gets conspiracy 
theorists all wound up. 


Regards,

Tom 


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 Don't waste your time watching the grave of a driver who died twenty years 
 ago and has been irrelevant since.  If HAARP was capable of doing anything 
 nefarious that it was claimed to, to this day, then by all means watch it.
 
 Kurt
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[Spooks] Logs

2011-02-12 Thread Ary Boender
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20047.7  1231 12-02-2011  MX   CW  Beacon D Sevastopol
200481231 12-02-2011  MX   CW  Beacon C Moscow
16331.7  1231 12-02-2011  MX   CW  Beacon D Sevastopol
163321231 12-02-2011  MX   CW  Beacon C Moscow
13527.7  1231 12-02-2011  MX   CW  Beacon D Sevastopol
135281231 12-02-2011  MX   CW  Beacon C Moscow
10871.9  1231 12-02-2011  MX   CW  Beacon S Sevoromorsk
108721231 12-02-2011  MX   CW  Beacon C Moscow
 7039.4  1238 12-02-2011  MX   CW  Beacon M Magadan
 8495.4  1255 12-02-2011  MX   CW  Beacon M Magadan
 55001240 12-02-2011  M89  CW  V 7NPE 7NPE 7NPE DE QV5B QV5B
 42251242 12-02-2011  M89  CW  V 7NPE 7NPE 7NPE DE QV5B QV5B
 33271244 12-02-2011  M89  CW  V QPZM QPZM QPZM DE WOXN WOXN
 45321247 12-02-2011  M89  CW  V JA3L JA3L JA3L DE UN2T UN2T
 32971250 12-02-2011  M89  CW  V GKVZ GKVZ GKVZ DE Q7NW Q7NW 

73, Ary

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[Spooks] Automated Spy Numbers Loggings

2011-02-12 Thread Spy Numbers Robot
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These loggings were submitted to the Spy Numbers Station Database on 2011-02-12 
by danix111, Gdynia, Poland.

Freq ENIGMA Day   MMDD  UTC  Mode Comments 
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4441E11 Sat   02122011 1448   USB 287/00 


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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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Hi Mark:

That is the received spectrum at the HAARP facility.

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
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 HAARP HF spectrum data:

 http://maestro.haarp.alaska.edu/data/spectrum2/www/hf.html

 Which you get to from here:

 http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/data.html
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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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I think it kind of overlooks something if we try to say that they 
ususually do whatever.  They're engaged in research, so if they want to 
see how the ionosphere reacts to repetetive patterns on 2750 kHz, they'll 
do that.  If they want to see how the ionosphere reacts when they do 
frequency hopping, they'll do that.

I heard them in October and November on 2750.  Twice it was rising tones 
and the third time in November it was repetetive 'dits'.  Living in 
Alaska, the signal is extremely strong as you might imagine.  I've never 
received any other signal that pegged my signal strength meter.  :-)  I 
QSL'd them via the email they list on their website and received no reply.

One thing the tin-foil hat squad seems to overlook is that if it was a 
super-secret Government conspiracy to burn off the ionosphere (one of at 
least a dozen outlandishly wacky claims), they wouldn't make any pictures 
of the facility publicly available, and it certainly wouldn't have a 
website or mailing address.

Mike

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 They usually do frequency hopping. They are generally not on any given
 frequency for a long time.

 Earlier last year, they were doing transmissions that started out
 around 2700 kHz and moved up 5.25 kHz every 15 or 20 seconds till they
 got around 2900 kHz, then they started over. The starting frequency
 was never the same as the previous run. These were CW carrier
 transmissions.

 Last November they were using 2750 kHz as one frequency. The signals
 sounded like two carriers separated by 1 to 10 Hz difference which
 would vary.

 There have been no HAARP transmissions since Nov. 12 or so of last
 year, to my knowledge. Keep watching the HAARP HF spectrum display to
 see if anything shows up.

 73, Zack W9SZ


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 Hello,
 I apologize if this is off topic, however I'm located in Western Canada
 and would like to ask if anyone knows active frequencies for HAARP.
 Apparently, they are frequently active between 2 and 10 MHz and I would
 like to *hear* them, which shouldn't be that difficult since they
 transmit more power then just about all transmitters in the world combined.

 Or does anyone know of any goup similar to this one, where information
 about HAARP is exchanged. I'm not looking for conspiricay theories, just
 factual information about frequencies and schedules. My thoughts were,
 if anyone would know, it would be the readers of this group. I have run
 into a brick wall and cannot find any recent information about current
 activities.

 Thank you for the help and again, my apologies for this off topic question.
 Rene - VE6WCA


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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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Why wouldn't they publish pictures, etc., Mike? This (no public 
information) precisely would worry people, whereas now with their 
website, pictures, etc. they make it easier on themselves to say Look! 
We ain't got nothing to hide... Except of course that there may be 
other things they may not tell. I am not necesarrily convinced of their 
purely scientific and peaceful character. A facility financed by the 
military must most logically have at least some military objectives.

just my 2 ¢¢ents...
Frank (ee)

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 I think it kind of overlooks something if we try to say that they
 ususually dowhatever.  They're engaged in research, so if they want to
 see how the ionosphere reacts to repetetive patterns on 2750 kHz, they'll
 do that.  If they want to see how the ionosphere reacts when they do
 frequency hopping, they'll do that.

 I heard them in October and November on 2750.  Twice it was rising tones
 and the third time in November it was repetetive 'dits'.  Living in
 Alaska, the signal is extremely strong as you might imagine.  I've never
 received any other signal that pegged my signal strength meter.  :-)  I
 QSL'd them via the email they list on their website and received no reply.

 One thing the tin-foil hat squad seems to overlook is that if it was a
 super-secret Government conspiracy to burn off the ionosphere (one of at
 least a dozen outlandishly wacky claims), they wouldn't make any pictures
 of the facility publicly available, and it certainly wouldn't have a
 website or mailing address.

 Mike

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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

2011-02-12 Thread Kevin Elliott
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 http://www.livescience.com/124-artificial-neon-sky-show-created.html

 Mmm, twinkly.


By shooting intense radio beams into the night sky, researchers created a
modest neon light show visible from the ground. The process is not well
understood, but scientists speculate it could one day be employed to light a
city or generate celestial advertisements.

Oooh, I can't wait! McDonalds advertisements blocking my view of the clear
sky!!!

-K

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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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 Why wouldn't they publish pictures, etc., Mike? This (no public 
 information) precisely would worry people, whereas now with their 
 website, pictures, etc. they make it easier on themselves to say Look! 
 We ain't got nothing to hide... Except of course that there may be 
 other things they may not tell. I am not necesarrily convinced of their 
 purely scientific and peaceful character. A facility financed by the 
 military must most logically have at least some military objectives.

HAARP is very much straightforward about the fact that they are in part
utilised for military research.  But then, so are many universities and
colleges.  Does this mean that those universities and colleges are also
hiding something?

- J.
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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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It doesn't necessarily mean that universities are hiding something, but it
doesn't exclude it. In the past, universities have worked with the FBI and
CIA, dedicating entire wings/buildings to their collaborative efforts,
working on super top secret projects, such as the bombs for WWI and WWII.
Let's not forget that any person, company, or organization working for the
military is bound to extreme secrecy provisions.

It's secrecy that spawns conspiracy theories. Some justified, some crazy.
But secrecy also brings another gift:  the ability to take advantage of the
tax payers in, what else, secret, and sometimes in nefarious ways. The
reason we have the add the word 'gate' after whatever bad thing happens in
government is because government often takes advantage of the public in
exactly this way. Normal people aren't conspiracy nuts just because they
have learned that their government is often untruthful.

-Kevin

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 On 2/12/11 6:38 PM, Frank (ee) wrote:
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  Why wouldn't they publish pictures, etc., Mike? This (no public
  information) precisely would worry people, whereas now with their
  website, pictures, etc. they make it easier on themselves to say Look!
  We ain't got nothing to hide... Except of course that there may be
  other things they may not tell. I am not necesarrily convinced of their
  purely scientific and peaceful character. A facility financed by the
  military must most logically have at least some military objectives.

 HAARP is very much straightforward about the fact that they are in part
 utilised for military research.  But then, so are many universities and
 colleges.  Does this mean that those universities and colleges are also
 hiding something?

 - J.
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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

2011-02-12 Thread Frank (ee)
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And not only untruthful, but also sometimes quite thoughtless, only 
taking into account short-term plans (or should I say 'fantasies'?. Just 
remember the CIA training Al Q'aida... Look where that has brought us...


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 It doesn't necessarily mean that universities are hiding something, but it
 doesn't exclude it. In the past, universities have worked with the FBI and
 CIA, dedicating entire wings/buildings to their collaborative efforts,
 working on super top secret projects, such as the bombs for WWI and WWII.
 Let's not forget that any person, company, or organization working for the
 military is bound to extreme secrecy provisions.

 It's secrecy that spawns conspiracy theories. Some justified, some crazy.
 But secrecy also brings another gift:  the ability to take advantage of the
 tax payers in, what else, secret, and sometimes in nefarious ways. The
 reason we have the add the word 'gate' after whatever bad thing happens in
 government is because government often takes advantage of the public in
 exactly this way. Normal people aren't conspiracy nuts just because they
 have learned that their government is often untruthful.

 -Kevin

 Kevin Elliott
 ke...@phunc.com | http://kevinelliott.net | http://twitter.com/kevinelliott


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 On 2/12/11 6:38 PM, Frank (ee) wrote:
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 Why wouldn't they publish pictures, etc., Mike? This (no public
 information) precisely would worry people, whereas now with their
 website, pictures, etc. they make it easier on themselves to say Look!
 We ain't got nothing to hide... Except of course that there may be
 other things they may not tell. I am not necesarrily convinced of their
 purely scientific and peaceful character. A facility financed by the
 military must most logically have at least some military objectives.
 HAARP is very much straightforward about the fact that they are in part
 utilised for military research.  But then, so are many universities and
 colleges.  Does this mean that those universities and colleges are also
 hiding something?

 - J.
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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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why dont you all go get a haarp room down at motel 6. enuff with the junk 
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 Why wouldn't they publish pictures, etc., Mike? This (no public
 information) precisely would worry people, whereas now with their
 website, pictures, etc. they make it easier on themselves to say Look!
 We ain't got nothing to hide... Except of course that there may be
 other things they may not tell. I am not necesarrily convinced of their
 purely scientific and peaceful character. A facility financed by the
 military must most logically have at least some military objectives.

 HAARP is very much straightforward about the fact that they are in part
 utilised for military research.  But then, so are many universities and
 colleges.  Does this mean that those universities and colleges are also
 hiding something?

 - J.
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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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   Your questions were very appropriate and generated some interesting 
 responses, no need to apologize.
 Ed
 New Bedford,Ma.

Thank you,
I was always taught: A person is only as valuable as he/she can help 
others.
Rene
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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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I sent a private e-mail to Rene about this, but the HAARP facility
hasn't been active for a while due to lack of sunspots and hence
unfavorable ionospheric conditions. The last transmissions known by
those of us who actively listen for them were in mid-November 2010.
You can watch the HAARP HF spectrum monitor and see whether or not
they are probably transmitting. This is the current chart:

http://maestro.haarp.alaska.edu/data/spectrum2/www/hf.html

You can see blue bands corresponding to signals in the international
broadcast bands of 49, 41, 31, 25, 19 meters etc.

Now go to the bottom of the web page and enter November 9, 2010 and
look at that display. See the yellow bands on it? The ones between
0300 and 1000Z were transmissions on 2750 kHz. I heard the signals. I
think someone else here also heard them and described the same things
I heard. I wasn't able to find the signals on other frequencies. They
do a lot of hopping around sometimes.

If you see yellow bands in the current display that look like that,
they are probably transmitting from the HAARP facility. You can only
get an approximate idea of the frequency from the display so you have
to tune around some. Sometimes they stick with a carrier on one
frequency and sometimes it moves. Earlier in 2010 they were
transmitting starting on a frequency near 2700 kHz and moving up
exactly 5.25 kHz every 15 or 20 seconds till they got to around 2900
kHz. Then they would start over. The starting frequency for a new pass
was not the same as the starting frequency of the last pass. Signals
then were unmodulated CW carriers.

Now look at the displays for July 18 through 22, 2010. Every year for
several years the HAARP facility has been sponsoring a summer camp for
college students in radio science and plasma physics. The students
propose experiments and then they get to do them using the facility.
That's what was happening during that July week.

Also look at the display for July 16, 2010. We haven't figured out
WHAT that was yet. I don't think it was from the HAARP facility. There
are several other research sites in Alaska doing ionospheric
experiments. There is (was) the HIPAS observatory in Poker Flat, and a
SuperDARN facility.

I hope someone found this interesting!

Zack


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 On 11-02-12 05:36 PM, kintah wrote:
 why dont you all go get a haarp room down at motel 6. enuff with the junk
 email messages! go to godlikeproductions.com for this kind of crap


 Although I'm somewhat puzzled by the above response, I sincerely
 apologize if my simple request ruffled peoples feathers.

 My question was:
 Hello,
 I apologize if this is off topic, however I'm located in Western Canada
 and would like to ask if anyone knows active frequencies for HAARP.
 Apparently, they are frequently active between 2 and 10 MHz and I would
 like tohear*  *them, which shouldn't be that difficult since they
 transmit more power then just about all transmitters in the world combined.

 Or does anyone know of any goup similar to this one, where information
 about HAARP is exchanged.*I'm not looking for conspiracy theories, just
 factual information about frequencies and schedules.*  My thoughts were,
 if anyone would know, it would be the readers of this group. I have run
 into a brick wall and cannot find any recent information about current
 activities.

 Thank you for the help and again, my apologies for this off topic question.
 Rene - VE6WCA

 As I clearly stated, I am NOT looking for conspiracy theories or how
 their transmissions make birds fall from the sky, I'm just looking for
 factual and recent information about the technical aspects of their
 broadcasts. And that question was answered to my satisfaction.
 Rene
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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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YHWH speaks
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 From: kin...@gmail.com
 To: spooks@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:36:42 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Spooks] HAARP
 
  
 why dont you all go get a haarp room down at motel 6. enuff with the junk 
 email messages! go to godlikeproductions.com for this kind of crap
  
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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

2011-02-12 Thread J. Random Entity
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On 2/12/11 7:36 PM, kintah wrote:

 why dont you all go get a haarp room down at motel 6. enuff with the junk 
 email messages! go to godlikeproductions.com for this kind of crap

Feel free to exercise your ability to delete messages without reading
them first based on subject line.

- J.
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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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: When I grew up, I was always told, where there is smoke there is fire.
: And maybe that smoke was just an optical illusion...

The problem with HAARP is that there isn't any smoke.  Compare the power
output of a 5 to 10 MW SW relay station transmitter running 24/7, that
nobody has ever noticed, to the 4 MW output of HAARP that tries to do 
something.

Zilch.

Kurt

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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

2011-02-12 Thread J. Random Entity
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On 2/12/11 11:49 PM, Rene Matthijssen wrote:

 As I said, maybe the smoke is just an illusion. When we talk about 
 shortwave broadcasts, there is no mystery, we can tune our receiver to 
 the normally well published frequency and listen.
 HAARP is a different story, their ERP power /(650,000.000 Watts or more 
 ?)/ is beyond comprehension and their own patents are frequently the 
 basis of the numerous conspiracies. Again, I'm more interested in the 
 technical aspects which would allow me to listen to their signal, then 
 I'm interested the booga booga theories.

Rene, I get where you're coming from regarding technical aspects vs.
conspiracy theories.  But, for the sake of (at least) my understanding:
when you say that you're interested in the technical aspects which would
allow you to receive their signal, what exactly do you mean by that?

Not asking to antagonise you by any means, but it's a pretty broad
statement - hence why at least I could use some clarification.

- J.
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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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Again, I'm more interested in the technical aspects which would allow me to 
listen to their signal, then I'm interested the booga booga theories.

A pocket shortwave radio from the local $ store is adequate.  All my 
recordings on the various sites were done with a POS Radio Shack receiver 
and 18 of wire.  I can do the same with $2,000 worth of equipment, but the 
junk radio hears HAARP just as well.

Kurt

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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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On 11-02-12 09:34 PM, KD7JYK DM09 wrote:
 : When I grew up, I was always told, where there is smoke there is fire.
 : And maybe that smoke was just an optical illusion...

 The problem with HAARP is that there isn't any smoke.  Compare the power
 output of a 5 to 10 MW SW relay station transmitter running 24/7, that
 nobody has ever noticed, to the 4 MW output of HAARP that tries to do
 something.

 Zilch.

 Kurt

As I said, maybe the smoke is just an illusion. When we talk about 
shortwave broadcasts, there is no mystery, we can tune our receiver to 
the normally well published frequency and listen.
HAARP is a different story, their ERP power /(650,000.000 Watts or more 
?)/ is beyond comprehension and their own patents are frequently the 
basis of the numerous conspiracies. Again, I'm more interested in the 
technical aspects which would allow me to listen to their signal, then 
I'm interested the booga booga theories.
Rene

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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

2011-02-12 Thread Rene Matthijssen
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On 11-02-12 10:02 PM, J. Random Entity wrote:
 Rene, I get where you're coming from regarding technical aspects vs.
 conspiracy theories.  But, for the sake of (at least) my understanding:
 when you say that you're interested in the technical aspects which would
 allow you to receive their signal, what exactly do you mean by that?

 Not asking to antagonise you by any means, but it's a pretty broad
 statement - hence why at least I could use some clarification.

 - J.

Fair enough.

YES, I have heard  read most those wild stories and so do my friends, 
yet in all of my years as a shortwave listener, I have never come across 
the HAARP signal or maybe I have and don't know it.

For that reason, I would like to hear it and in order to do so, I would 
like to know if there is a group which keeps track of this and what 
frequencies are being used. Very similar to the listing of numbers 
stations on Spooks.
I'm starting to get the feeling that nobody gets overly exited about 
publishing info about numbers stations, but when I ask fair and 
reasonable questions about HAARP, some people seem to get their hair 
standing on end.

Once I know more about the actual HAARP transmissions, then I could 
satisfy myself IN MY OWN MIND whether there is any reasonable 
correlation between their transmissions and these various events that 
people keep talking about. And if there isn't, so much better but then 
at least I can shut up some of my friends.

When I build my first (C band) satellite receiving system in 1978, there 
was nobody who could help me with information and we had no internet at 
that time. I remember the struggle to find ANY info about frequencies or 
modes. It was Bob Cooper from Acadia (OK) in those days who finally got 
me started.
And I was recognized in the Canadian media as the first person in 
Western Canada to have a home satellite system. I accept a technical 
challenge when I see one
Rene - VE6WCA



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[Spooks] Automated Spy Numbers Loggings

2011-02-12 Thread Spy Numbers Robot
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These loggings were submitted to the Spy Numbers Station Database on 2011-02-13 
by westli, Simi Valley, California.

Freq ENIGMA Day   MMDD  UTC  Mode Comments 
 -- --- --  -  
9153M8a Fri   02112011 0700   MCW 5f cut nums:  55812 15512 81511  
   10432M8a Fri   02112011 0900   MCW 5f cut nums:  60612 36151 18052  Good 
sig.  
9112M8a Fri   02112011 1000   MCW 5f cut nums:  60612 36151 18052  Good 
sig.  
8096M8a Fri   02112011 1400CW 5f cut nums:  06852 47241 21141  


The Spy Numbers Database is an effort to create as complete a record of Spy 
Numbers Station transmissions as possible. You can submit your loggings to the 
database, and search the database. 

Details are available at http://www.spynumbers.com/numbersDB

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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

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On 2/13/11 12:45 AM, Rene Matthijssen wrote:
 Not asking to antagonise you by any means, but it's a pretty broad
 statement - hence why at least I could use some clarification.

 - J.
 
 Fair enough.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

 YES, I have heard  read most those wild stories and so do my friends, 
 yet in all of my years as a shortwave listener, I have never come across 
 the HAARP signal or maybe I have and don't know it.

The latter is entirely possible.  I know that I've picked it up on a
couple of occasions where I've found out after the fact what it actually
was.

 For that reason, I would like to hear it and in order to do so, I would 
 like to know if there is a group which keeps track of this and what 
 frequencies are being used. Very similar to the listing of numbers 
 stations on Spooks.

I'm not personally aware of anything similar to this list (or the
related groups) that specifically tracks HAARP activity in the same way.
 There are sporadic reception reports out there, to be sure - but
nothing that would establish a specific transmission pattern.

 I'm starting to get the feeling that nobody gets overly exited about 
 publishing info about numbers stations, but when I ask fair and 
 reasonable questions about HAARP, some people seem to get their hair 
 standing on end.

I don't get it either.  And to clarify my bias in this regard, my
personal opinions regarding HAARP are as follows:

- It is a high-frequency auroral research project, some of which is
military in nature.

That's it.  We know about as much about it as we do numbers stations
(IMHO), and assigning responsibility to it for things like weather
control, UFO appearances, and missile shields is about as reasonable as
claiming that numbers stations cause cancer in lab mice.

Just my $0.02 so that you understand where I'm coming from on this and
can take my replies accordingly.

 Once I know more about the actual HAARP transmissions, then I could 
 satisfy myself IN MY OWN MIND whether there is any reasonable 
 correlation between their transmissions and these various events that 
 people keep talking about. And if there isn't, so much better but then 
 at least I can shut up some of my friends.

Which is fair enough; letting research lead to findings is usually much
more reasonable in my opinion than starting with a premise and using
that research to bolster it.

 I accept a technical challenge when I see one

Well, if my experience is anything to go by, about the biggest challenge
you're going to have is getting the length of the random wire antenna
correct ;)  The first time I heard it was on a Sony ICF-SW40 using the
built-in telescopic antenna - and if there was ever a radio with
underwhelming performance, that one is it.  The dollar store SW receiver
mentioned earlier would be fine as long as it's using a decent antenna.

- J.
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Re: [Spooks] HAARP

2011-02-12 Thread Rene Matthijssen
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On 11-02-12 11:22 PM, J. Random Entity wrote:
 Well, if my experience is anything to go by, about the biggest challenge
 you're going to have is getting the length of the random wire antenna
 correct ;)  The first time I heard it was on a Sony ICF-SW40 using the
 built-in telescopic antenna - and if there was ever a radio with
 underwhelming performance, that one is it.  The dollar store SW receiver
 mentioned earlier would be fine as long as it's using a decent antenna.

 - J.
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Thank you for the response.

I have two excellent shortwave radio's (ICOM and YAESU) complete with 
some good antenna's, including dipoles for the various ham bands as well 
as a commercial BW wire antenna designed to cover a continuous 
frequency range of 1.8 to 30 Mhz. I'm good to go...
Rene - VE6WCA
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