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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list As well as renting out the facility to universities for research, HAARP does some research for the USAF as well. Maybe this is what what gets conspiracy theorists all wound up. Regards, Tom - Original Message From: gerald steck geraldst...@msn.com To: SPOOKS MAILING LIST spooks@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 1:09:03 AM Subject: Re: [Spooks] HAARP Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list From: kd7...@earthlink.net To: spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:47:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [Spooks] HAARP Don't waste your time watching the grave of a driver who died twenty years ago and has been irrelevant since. If HAARP was capable of doing anything nefarious that it was claimed to, to this day, then by all means watch it. Kurt ``smile __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Hi Mark: That is the received spectrum at the HAARP facility. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com Mark Black wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list HAARP HF spectrum data: http://maestro.haarp.alaska.edu/data/spectrum2/www/hf.html Which you get to from here: http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/data.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I think it kind of overlooks something if we try to say that they ususually do whatever. They're engaged in research, so if they want to see how the ionosphere reacts to repetetive patterns on 2750 kHz, they'll do that. If they want to see how the ionosphere reacts when they do frequency hopping, they'll do that. I heard them in October and November on 2750. Twice it was rising tones and the third time in November it was repetetive 'dits'. Living in Alaska, the signal is extremely strong as you might imagine. I've never received any other signal that pegged my signal strength meter. :-) I QSL'd them via the email they list on their website and received no reply. One thing the tin-foil hat squad seems to overlook is that if it was a super-secret Government conspiracy to burn off the ionosphere (one of at least a dozen outlandishly wacky claims), they wouldn't make any pictures of the facility publicly available, and it certainly wouldn't have a website or mailing address. Mike On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Zack Widup wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list They usually do frequency hopping. They are generally not on any given frequency for a long time. Earlier last year, they were doing transmissions that started out around 2700 kHz and moved up 5.25 kHz every 15 or 20 seconds till they got around 2900 kHz, then they started over. The starting frequency was never the same as the previous run. These were CW carrier transmissions. Last November they were using 2750 kHz as one frequency. The signals sounded like two carriers separated by 1 to 10 Hz difference which would vary. There have been no HAARP transmissions since Nov. 12 or so of last year, to my knowledge. Keep watching the HAARP HF spectrum display to see if anything shows up. 73, Zack W9SZ On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Rene Matthijssen r...@dish-net.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Hello, I apologize if this is off topic, however I'm located in Western Canada and would like to ask if anyone knows active frequencies for HAARP. Apparently, they are frequently active between 2 and 10 MHz and I would like to *hear* them, which shouldn't be that difficult since they transmit more power then just about all transmitters in the world combined. Or does anyone know of any goup similar to this one, where information about HAARP is exchanged. I'm not looking for conspiricay theories, just factual information about frequencies and schedules. My thoughts were, if anyone would know, it would be the readers of this group. I have run into a brick wall and cannot find any recent information about current activities. Thank you for the help and again, my apologies for this off topic question. Rene - VE6WCA __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAARP
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Why wouldn't they publish pictures, etc., Mike? This (no public information) precisely would worry people, whereas now with their website, pictures, etc. they make it easier on themselves to say Look! We ain't got nothing to hide... Except of course that there may be other things they may not tell. I am not necesarrily convinced of their purely scientific and peaceful character. A facility financed by the military must most logically have at least some military objectives. just my 2 ¢¢ents... Frank (ee) On 2/13/2011 00:02, Mike Tibor wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I think it kind of overlooks something if we try to say that they ususually dowhatever. They're engaged in research, so if they want to see how the ionosphere reacts to repetetive patterns on 2750 kHz, they'll do that. If they want to see how the ionosphere reacts when they do frequency hopping, they'll do that. I heard them in October and November on 2750. Twice it was rising tones and the third time in November it was repetetive 'dits'. Living in Alaska, the signal is extremely strong as you might imagine. I've never received any other signal that pegged my signal strength meter. :-) I QSL'd them via the email they list on their website and received no reply. One thing the tin-foil hat squad seems to overlook is that if it was a super-secret Government conspiracy to burn off the ionosphere (one of at least a dozen outlandishly wacky claims), they wouldn't make any pictures of the facility publicly available, and it certainly wouldn't have a website or mailing address. Mike snip __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Tom Morris bluen...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list http://www.livescience.com/124-artificial-neon-sky-show-created.html Mmm, twinkly. By shooting intense radio beams into the night sky, researchers created a modest neon light show visible from the ground. The process is not well understood, but scientists speculate it could one day be employed to light a city or generate celestial advertisements. Oooh, I can't wait! McDonalds advertisements blocking my view of the clear sky!!! -K Kevin Elliott ke...@phunc.com | http://kevinelliott.net | http://twitter.com/kevinelliott __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 2/12/11 6:38 PM, Frank (ee) wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Why wouldn't they publish pictures, etc., Mike? This (no public information) precisely would worry people, whereas now with their website, pictures, etc. they make it easier on themselves to say Look! We ain't got nothing to hide... Except of course that there may be other things they may not tell. I am not necesarrily convinced of their purely scientific and peaceful character. A facility financed by the military must most logically have at least some military objectives. HAARP is very much straightforward about the fact that they are in part utilised for military research. But then, so are many universities and colleges. Does this mean that those universities and colleges are also hiding something? - J. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list It doesn't necessarily mean that universities are hiding something, but it doesn't exclude it. In the past, universities have worked with the FBI and CIA, dedicating entire wings/buildings to their collaborative efforts, working on super top secret projects, such as the bombs for WWI and WWII. Let's not forget that any person, company, or organization working for the military is bound to extreme secrecy provisions. It's secrecy that spawns conspiracy theories. Some justified, some crazy. But secrecy also brings another gift: the ability to take advantage of the tax payers in, what else, secret, and sometimes in nefarious ways. The reason we have the add the word 'gate' after whatever bad thing happens in government is because government often takes advantage of the public in exactly this way. Normal people aren't conspiracy nuts just because they have learned that their government is often untruthful. -Kevin Kevin Elliott ke...@phunc.com | http://kevinelliott.net | http://twitter.com/kevinelliott On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:16 PM, J. Random Entity jrandoment...@gmail.comwrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 2/12/11 6:38 PM, Frank (ee) wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Why wouldn't they publish pictures, etc., Mike? This (no public information) precisely would worry people, whereas now with their website, pictures, etc. they make it easier on themselves to say Look! We ain't got nothing to hide... Except of course that there may be other things they may not tell. I am not necesarrily convinced of their purely scientific and peaceful character. A facility financed by the military must most logically have at least some military objectives. HAARP is very much straightforward about the fact that they are in part utilised for military research. But then, so are many universities and colleges. Does this mean that those universities and colleges are also hiding something? - J. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And not only untruthful, but also sometimes quite thoughtless, only taking into account short-term plans (or should I say 'fantasies'?. Just remember the CIA training Al Q'aida... Look where that has brought us... On 2/13/2011 01:20, Kevin Elliott wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list It doesn't necessarily mean that universities are hiding something, but it doesn't exclude it. In the past, universities have worked with the FBI and CIA, dedicating entire wings/buildings to their collaborative efforts, working on super top secret projects, such as the bombs for WWI and WWII. Let's not forget that any person, company, or organization working for the military is bound to extreme secrecy provisions. It's secrecy that spawns conspiracy theories. Some justified, some crazy. But secrecy also brings another gift: the ability to take advantage of the tax payers in, what else, secret, and sometimes in nefarious ways. The reason we have the add the word 'gate' after whatever bad thing happens in government is because government often takes advantage of the public in exactly this way. Normal people aren't conspiracy nuts just because they have learned that their government is often untruthful. -Kevin Kevin Elliott ke...@phunc.com | http://kevinelliott.net | http://twitter.com/kevinelliott On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:16 PM, J. Random Entity jrandoment...@gmail.comwrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 2/12/11 6:38 PM, Frank (ee) wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Why wouldn't they publish pictures, etc., Mike? This (no public information) precisely would worry people, whereas now with their website, pictures, etc. they make it easier on themselves to say Look! We ain't got nothing to hide... Except of course that there may be other things they may not tell. I am not necesarrily convinced of their purely scientific and peaceful character. A facility financed by the military must most logically have at least some military objectives. HAARP is very much straightforward about the fact that they are in part utilised for military research. But then, so are many universities and colleges. Does this mean that those universities and colleges are also hiding something? - J. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list why dont you all go get a haarp room down at motel 6. enuff with the junk email messages! go to godlikeproductions.com for this kind of crap - Original Message - From: J. Random Entity jrandoment...@gmail.com To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spooks] HAARP Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 2/12/11 6:38 PM, Frank (ee) wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Why wouldn't they publish pictures, etc., Mike? This (no public information) precisely would worry people, whereas now with their website, pictures, etc. they make it easier on themselves to say Look! We ain't got nothing to hide... Except of course that there may be other things they may not tell. I am not necesarrily convinced of their purely scientific and peaceful character. A facility financed by the military must most logically have at least some military objectives. HAARP is very much straightforward about the fact that they are in part utilised for military research. But then, so are many universities and colleges. Does this mean that those universities and colleges are also hiding something? - J. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5868 (20110212) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5868 (20110212) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 11-02-12 06:43 PM, sher0...@yahoo.com wrote: Rene, Your questions were very appropriate and generated some interesting responses, no need to apologize. Ed New Bedford,Ma. Thank you, I was always taught: A person is only as valuable as he/she can help others. Rene __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I sent a private e-mail to Rene about this, but the HAARP facility hasn't been active for a while due to lack of sunspots and hence unfavorable ionospheric conditions. The last transmissions known by those of us who actively listen for them were in mid-November 2010. You can watch the HAARP HF spectrum monitor and see whether or not they are probably transmitting. This is the current chart: http://maestro.haarp.alaska.edu/data/spectrum2/www/hf.html You can see blue bands corresponding to signals in the international broadcast bands of 49, 41, 31, 25, 19 meters etc. Now go to the bottom of the web page and enter November 9, 2010 and look at that display. See the yellow bands on it? The ones between 0300 and 1000Z were transmissions on 2750 kHz. I heard the signals. I think someone else here also heard them and described the same things I heard. I wasn't able to find the signals on other frequencies. They do a lot of hopping around sometimes. If you see yellow bands in the current display that look like that, they are probably transmitting from the HAARP facility. You can only get an approximate idea of the frequency from the display so you have to tune around some. Sometimes they stick with a carrier on one frequency and sometimes it moves. Earlier in 2010 they were transmitting starting on a frequency near 2700 kHz and moving up exactly 5.25 kHz every 15 or 20 seconds till they got to around 2900 kHz. Then they would start over. The starting frequency for a new pass was not the same as the starting frequency of the last pass. Signals then were unmodulated CW carriers. Now look at the displays for July 18 through 22, 2010. Every year for several years the HAARP facility has been sponsoring a summer camp for college students in radio science and plasma physics. The students propose experiments and then they get to do them using the facility. That's what was happening during that July week. Also look at the display for July 16, 2010. We haven't figured out WHAT that was yet. I don't think it was from the HAARP facility. There are several other research sites in Alaska doing ionospheric experiments. There is (was) the HIPAS observatory in Poker Flat, and a SuperDARN facility. I hope someone found this interesting! Zack On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Rene Matthijssen r...@dish-net.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 11-02-12 05:36 PM, kintah wrote: why dont you all go get a haarp room down at motel 6. enuff with the junk email messages! go to godlikeproductions.com for this kind of crap Although I'm somewhat puzzled by the above response, I sincerely apologize if my simple request ruffled peoples feathers. My question was: Hello, I apologize if this is off topic, however I'm located in Western Canada and would like to ask if anyone knows active frequencies for HAARP. Apparently, they are frequently active between 2 and 10 MHz and I would like tohear* *them, which shouldn't be that difficult since they transmit more power then just about all transmitters in the world combined. Or does anyone know of any goup similar to this one, where information about HAARP is exchanged.*I'm not looking for conspiracy theories, just factual information about frequencies and schedules.* My thoughts were, if anyone would know, it would be the readers of this group. I have run into a brick wall and cannot find any recent information about current activities. Thank you for the help and again, my apologies for this off topic question. Rene - VE6WCA As I clearly stated, I am NOT looking for conspiracy theories or how their transmissions make birds fall from the sky, I'm just looking for factual and recent information about the technical aspects of their broadcasts. And that question was answered to my satisfaction. Rene __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list YHWH speaks ` From: kin...@gmail.com To: spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:36:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [Spooks] HAARP why dont you all go get a haarp room down at motel 6. enuff with the junk email messages! go to godlikeproductions.com for this kind of crap __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 2/12/11 7:36 PM, kintah wrote: why dont you all go get a haarp room down at motel 6. enuff with the junk email messages! go to godlikeproductions.com for this kind of crap Feel free to exercise your ability to delete messages without reading them first based on subject line. - J. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list : When I grew up, I was always told, where there is smoke there is fire. : And maybe that smoke was just an optical illusion... The problem with HAARP is that there isn't any smoke. Compare the power output of a 5 to 10 MW SW relay station transmitter running 24/7, that nobody has ever noticed, to the 4 MW output of HAARP that tries to do something. Zilch. Kurt __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 2/12/11 11:49 PM, Rene Matthijssen wrote: As I said, maybe the smoke is just an illusion. When we talk about shortwave broadcasts, there is no mystery, we can tune our receiver to the normally well published frequency and listen. HAARP is a different story, their ERP power /(650,000.000 Watts or more ?)/ is beyond comprehension and their own patents are frequently the basis of the numerous conspiracies. Again, I'm more interested in the technical aspects which would allow me to listen to their signal, then I'm interested the booga booga theories. Rene, I get where you're coming from regarding technical aspects vs. conspiracy theories. But, for the sake of (at least) my understanding: when you say that you're interested in the technical aspects which would allow you to receive their signal, what exactly do you mean by that? Not asking to antagonise you by any means, but it's a pretty broad statement - hence why at least I could use some clarification. - J. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAARP
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Again, I'm more interested in the technical aspects which would allow me to listen to their signal, then I'm interested the booga booga theories. A pocket shortwave radio from the local $ store is adequate. All my recordings on the various sites were done with a POS Radio Shack receiver and 18 of wire. I can do the same with $2,000 worth of equipment, but the junk radio hears HAARP just as well. Kurt __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAARP
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 11-02-12 09:34 PM, KD7JYK DM09 wrote: : When I grew up, I was always told, where there is smoke there is fire. : And maybe that smoke was just an optical illusion... The problem with HAARP is that there isn't any smoke. Compare the power output of a 5 to 10 MW SW relay station transmitter running 24/7, that nobody has ever noticed, to the 4 MW output of HAARP that tries to do something. Zilch. Kurt As I said, maybe the smoke is just an illusion. When we talk about shortwave broadcasts, there is no mystery, we can tune our receiver to the normally well published frequency and listen. HAARP is a different story, their ERP power /(650,000.000 Watts or more ?)/ is beyond comprehension and their own patents are frequently the basis of the numerous conspiracies. Again, I'm more interested in the technical aspects which would allow me to listen to their signal, then I'm interested the booga booga theories. Rene __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAARP
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 11-02-12 10:02 PM, J. Random Entity wrote: Rene, I get where you're coming from regarding technical aspects vs. conspiracy theories. But, for the sake of (at least) my understanding: when you say that you're interested in the technical aspects which would allow you to receive their signal, what exactly do you mean by that? Not asking to antagonise you by any means, but it's a pretty broad statement - hence why at least I could use some clarification. - J. Fair enough. YES, I have heard read most those wild stories and so do my friends, yet in all of my years as a shortwave listener, I have never come across the HAARP signal or maybe I have and don't know it. For that reason, I would like to hear it and in order to do so, I would like to know if there is a group which keeps track of this and what frequencies are being used. Very similar to the listing of numbers stations on Spooks. I'm starting to get the feeling that nobody gets overly exited about publishing info about numbers stations, but when I ask fair and reasonable questions about HAARP, some people seem to get their hair standing on end. Once I know more about the actual HAARP transmissions, then I could satisfy myself IN MY OWN MIND whether there is any reasonable correlation between their transmissions and these various events that people keep talking about. And if there isn't, so much better but then at least I can shut up some of my friends. When I build my first (C band) satellite receiving system in 1978, there was nobody who could help me with information and we had no internet at that time. I remember the struggle to find ANY info about frequencies or modes. It was Bob Cooper from Acadia (OK) in those days who finally got me started. And I was recognized in the Canadian media as the first person in Western Canada to have a home satellite system. I accept a technical challenge when I see one Rene - VE6WCA __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Spooks] Automated Spy Numbers Loggings
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list These loggings were submitted to the Spy Numbers Station Database on 2011-02-13 by westli, Simi Valley, California. Freq ENIGMA Day MMDD UTC Mode Comments -- --- -- - 9153M8a Fri 02112011 0700 MCW 5f cut nums: 55812 15512 81511 10432M8a Fri 02112011 0900 MCW 5f cut nums: 60612 36151 18052 Good sig. 9112M8a Fri 02112011 1000 MCW 5f cut nums: 60612 36151 18052 Good sig. 8096M8a Fri 02112011 1400CW 5f cut nums: 06852 47241 21141 The Spy Numbers Database is an effort to create as complete a record of Spy Numbers Station transmissions as possible. You can submit your loggings to the database, and search the database. Details are available at http://www.spynumbers.com/numbersDB __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAARP
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 2/13/11 12:45 AM, Rene Matthijssen wrote: Not asking to antagonise you by any means, but it's a pretty broad statement - hence why at least I could use some clarification. - J. Fair enough. Thanks for taking the time to reply. YES, I have heard read most those wild stories and so do my friends, yet in all of my years as a shortwave listener, I have never come across the HAARP signal or maybe I have and don't know it. The latter is entirely possible. I know that I've picked it up on a couple of occasions where I've found out after the fact what it actually was. For that reason, I would like to hear it and in order to do so, I would like to know if there is a group which keeps track of this and what frequencies are being used. Very similar to the listing of numbers stations on Spooks. I'm not personally aware of anything similar to this list (or the related groups) that specifically tracks HAARP activity in the same way. There are sporadic reception reports out there, to be sure - but nothing that would establish a specific transmission pattern. I'm starting to get the feeling that nobody gets overly exited about publishing info about numbers stations, but when I ask fair and reasonable questions about HAARP, some people seem to get their hair standing on end. I don't get it either. And to clarify my bias in this regard, my personal opinions regarding HAARP are as follows: - It is a high-frequency auroral research project, some of which is military in nature. That's it. We know about as much about it as we do numbers stations (IMHO), and assigning responsibility to it for things like weather control, UFO appearances, and missile shields is about as reasonable as claiming that numbers stations cause cancer in lab mice. Just my $0.02 so that you understand where I'm coming from on this and can take my replies accordingly. Once I know more about the actual HAARP transmissions, then I could satisfy myself IN MY OWN MIND whether there is any reasonable correlation between their transmissions and these various events that people keep talking about. And if there isn't, so much better but then at least I can shut up some of my friends. Which is fair enough; letting research lead to findings is usually much more reasonable in my opinion than starting with a premise and using that research to bolster it. I accept a technical challenge when I see one Well, if my experience is anything to go by, about the biggest challenge you're going to have is getting the length of the random wire antenna correct ;) The first time I heard it was on a Sony ICF-SW40 using the built-in telescopic antenna - and if there was ever a radio with underwhelming performance, that one is it. The dollar store SW receiver mentioned earlier would be fine as long as it's using a decent antenna. - J. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAARP
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 11-02-12 11:22 PM, J. Random Entity wrote: Well, if my experience is anything to go by, about the biggest challenge you're going to have is getting the length of the random wire antenna correct ;) The first time I heard it was on a Sony ICF-SW40 using the built-in telescopic antenna - and if there was ever a radio with underwhelming performance, that one is it. The dollar store SW receiver mentioned earlier would be fine as long as it's using a decent antenna. - J. __ Thank you for the response. I have two excellent shortwave radio's (ICOM and YAESU) complete with some good antenna's, including dipoles for the various ham bands as well as a commercial BW wire antenna designed to cover a continuous frequency range of 1.8 to 30 Mhz. I'm good to go... Rene - VE6WCA __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html