Re: [Sugar-devel] Proxy Control Panel (Was: New Dextrose-3...)
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 20:14 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: >> My points to not doing that from beginning, were: >> >> * it is sepparate dialog in Gnome-2 (dunno about Gnome-3) and Firefox > > Agreed. > >> * we don't have tabs in CP components and having all Network related >> stuff in one CP component will make it huge > > After seeing the screenshot, I realized that there was way too much > stuff to merge it into the Network control panel. > > >> * we already have separate CP components for Network and Modem > > This always felt a little awkward to me. > > If someone had the time to work on UI cleanups, I'd prefer to see both > the Network and Modem control panels be replaced by options directly > associated with the objects they manipulate: > > - a radio-off checkbox in the popup menu of the wifi device > While we are at it, I think a radio button is a better choice for radio on/off instead of the check box. I have a hard time remembering what happens when you check the box :-) Sameer > - a settings dialog that pops up the first time you try to connect > to a 3G network, like the WEP/WPA password dialog > > - a new icon in the network view representing the schoolserver. > > >> In any case, this is the exact question to people who are skilled in >> GUI usability field, not to developers. > > Agreed, but the two groups overlap at least in part and sugar-devel is > the forum where they come together. > > -- > Bernie Innocenti > Sugar Labs Infrastructure Team > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Proxy Control Panel (Was: New Dextrose-3...)
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 20:14 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: > My points to not doing that from beginning, were: > > * it is sepparate dialog in Gnome-2 (dunno about Gnome-3) and Firefox Agreed. > * we don't have tabs in CP components and having all Network related > stuff in one CP component will make it huge After seeing the screenshot, I realized that there was way too much stuff to merge it into the Network control panel. > * we already have separate CP components for Network and Modem This always felt a little awkward to me. If someone had the time to work on UI cleanups, I'd prefer to see both the Network and Modem control panels be replaced by options directly associated with the objects they manipulate: - a radio-off checkbox in the popup menu of the wifi device - a settings dialog that pops up the first time you try to connect to a 3G network, like the WEP/WPA password dialog - a new icon in the network view representing the schoolserver. > In any case, this is the exact question to people who are skilled in > GUI usability field, not to developers. Agreed, but the two groups overlap at least in part and sugar-devel is the forum where they come together. -- Bernie Innocenti Sugar Labs Infrastructure Team http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Proxy Control Panel (Was: New Dextrose-3...)
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 08:26:46PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Aleksey Lim > wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:59:07PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > >> On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 23:21 +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: > >> > That patch was posted on @dx mailing list and is under review. > >> > > >> > https://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/1041/ > >> > >> Could someone please post a screenshot of the proxy control panel? > > > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_Settings#UI_Design > > > >> Also, has anyone considered merging this with the Network control panel? > >> If we don't contain the growth, we'll soon have more control panel items > >> than Vista (-: > > > > My points to not doing that from beginning, were: > > > > * it is sepparate dialog in Gnome-2 (dunno about Gnome-3) and Firefox > > Its a separate tab in the Network dialog > > > * we don't have tabs in CP components and having all Network related > > stuff in one CP component will make it huge > > It would be too big without tabs. > > > * we already have separate CP components for Network and Modem > > If we had tabs I would suggest merging them all but we don't so I > think they're best separate for the time being. > > > In any case, this is the exact question to people who are skilled in > > GUI usability field, not to developers. > > I would put the automatic config option above the manual option. It was implemented that way, because it exactly mimics the Proxy settings dialog in Gnome/Mozilla. Not sure if it makes sense to invent new usage workflow for people who will use it. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Proxy Control Panel (Was: New Dextrose-3...)
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:59:07PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 23:21 +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: >> > That patch was posted on @dx mailing list and is under review. >> > >> > https://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/1041/ >> >> Could someone please post a screenshot of the proxy control panel? > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_Settings#UI_Design > >> Also, has anyone considered merging this with the Network control panel? >> If we don't contain the growth, we'll soon have more control panel items >> than Vista (-: > > My points to not doing that from beginning, were: > > * it is sepparate dialog in Gnome-2 (dunno about Gnome-3) and Firefox Its a separate tab in the Network dialog > * we don't have tabs in CP components and having all Network related > stuff in one CP component will make it huge It would be too big without tabs. > * we already have separate CP components for Network and Modem If we had tabs I would suggest merging them all but we don't so I think they're best separate for the time being. > In any case, this is the exact question to people who are skilled in > GUI usability field, not to developers. I would put the automatic config option above the manual option. Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Proxy Control Panel (Was: New Dextrose-3...)
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:59:07PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 23:21 +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: > > That patch was posted on @dx mailing list and is under review. > > > > https://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/1041/ > > Could someone please post a screenshot of the proxy control panel? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_Settings#UI_Design > Also, has anyone considered merging this with the Network control panel? > If we don't contain the growth, we'll soon have more control panel items > than Vista (-: My points to not doing that from beginning, were: * it is sepparate dialog in Gnome-2 (dunno about Gnome-3) and Firefox * we don't have tabs in CP components and having all Network related stuff in one CP component will make it huge * we already have separate CP components for Network and Modem In any case, this is the exact question to people who are skilled in GUI usability field, not to developers. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Proxy Control Panel (Was: New Dextrose-3...)
On Wed 30 Nov 2011 01:29:07 AM IST, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 23:21 +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: >> That patch was posted on @dx mailing list and is under review. >> >> https://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/1041/ > > Could someone please post a screenshot of the proxy control panel? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_Settings#UI_Design > > Also, has anyone considered merging this with the Network control panel? > If we don't contain the growth, we'll soon have more control panel items > than Vista (-: > -- Anish | an...@activitycentral.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Proxy Control Panel (Was: New Dextrose-3...)
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 23:21 +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: > That patch was posted on @dx mailing list and is under review. > > https://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/1041/ Could someone please post a screenshot of the proxy control panel? Also, has anyone considered merging this with the Network control panel? If we don't contain the growth, we'll soon have more control panel items than Vista (-: -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ http://codewiz.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel