Re: fso-testing feed out of sync

2008-09-18 Thread Rod Whitby
Richard Cooke wrote:
> fso-testing is still broken. Out of desparation I have flashed the latest
> fso-testing image from downloads.freesmartphone.org. x.log still shows 
> enlightenment: symbol lookup error: enlightenment: undefined symbol:
> edje_scale_set
> 
> Any chance you could make the relevant ipks available please? I can't get
> the build system to work on my ubuntu box.

The autobuilder that feeds downloads.freesmartphone.org runs Ubuntu 7.10
and fso-testing builds fine there using the FSO Makefile at:

  http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/Makefile

-- Rod

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Re: fso-testing feed out of sync

2008-09-18 Thread Rod Whitby
Richard Cooke wrote:
> 
> -stacy wrote:
>> edje is out of sync with e/illume and friends:
>>
>> libedje0_0.9.9.043+cvs20080802-r0_armv4t.ipk
>> edje-utils_0.9.9.043+cvs20080802-r0_armv4t.ipk
>> edje-viewer_0.0.0+svnr35984-r1_armv4t.ipk
>> illume_0.0+svnr35984-r13_armv4t.ipk
>> e-wm_0.16.999.043+svnr35984-r11_armv4t.ipk

fso-testing on downloads.freesmartphone.org has:

 libedje0_0.5.0.043+svnr35984-r3
 edje-utils_0.5.0.043+svnr35984-r3
 edje-viewer_0.0.0+svnr35984-r1
 illume_0.0+svnr35984-r13
 e-wm_0.16.999.043+svnr35984-r11

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Re: What packages have cu and socat?

2008-09-18 Thread Rod Whitby
Erin Yueh wrote:
> Rod Whitby wrote:
>> Erin Yueh wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> i use OE to build package and i upload socat package here. You may try 
>>> it on.
>>>
>>> http://cs1.cs.nyu.edu/~wcy203/socat_1.3.2.1-r1_armv4t.opk
>> Since you work at Openmoko, why didn't you just add socat to the
>> task-openmoko-feed bitbake recipe, and then re-run the openmoko
>> autobuilder to update the feed?
>>
>> Why would someone with an @openmoko.com address be putting pre-built
>> packages anywhere other than in the official openmoko feeds?
>>
>> -- Rod
> mmh. yeah, we do have this recipe in OE, but i don't have this 
> permission to add it to repository. I would cc this email to our distro 
> team.

Julian,

Does Openmoko build the 'task-openmoko-feed' recipe and publish that to
the official feeds?

Who should community members contact if they have a recipe which already
builds fine from the org.openmoko.dev git repository, and they just want
that package added to task-openmoko-feed so that it automatically
appears in the official feeds?

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Re: What packages have cu and socat?

2008-09-18 Thread Erin Yueh
Rod Whitby wrote:
> Erin Yueh wrote:
>> Hi,
>> i use OE to build package and i upload socat package here. You may try 
>> it on.
>>
>> http://cs1.cs.nyu.edu/~wcy203/socat_1.3.2.1-r1_armv4t.opk
> 
> Since you work at Openmoko, why didn't you just add socat to the
> task-openmoko-feed bitbake recipe, and then re-run the openmoko
> autobuilder to update the feed?
> 
> Why would someone with an @openmoko.com address be putting pre-built
> packages anywhere other than in the official openmoko feeds?
> 
> -- Rod
mmh. yeah, we do have this recipe in OE, but i don't have this 
permission to add it to repository. I would cc this email to our distro 
team.

--erin

Dear Julian,

could we add 'socat' this package to our repository? then user can 
download it from installer easily.

Thanks,
Erin

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Re: What packages have cu and socat?

2008-09-18 Thread Rod Whitby
Erin Yueh wrote:
> Hi,
> i use OE to build package and i upload socat package here. You may try 
> it on.
> 
> http://cs1.cs.nyu.edu/~wcy203/socat_1.3.2.1-r1_armv4t.opk

Since you work at Openmoko, why didn't you just add socat to the
task-openmoko-feed bitbake recipe, and then re-run the openmoko
autobuilder to update the feed?

Why would someone with an @openmoko.com address be putting pre-built
packages anywhere other than in the official openmoko feeds?

-- Rod

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Re: What packages have cu and socat?

2008-09-18 Thread Erin Yueh
Hi,
i use OE to build package and i upload socat package here. You may try 
it on.

http://cs1.cs.nyu.edu/~wcy203/socat_1.3.2.1-r1_armv4t.opk

--erin

W.Kenworthy wrote:
> Unfortunately, I need the OM2008.8 pkg.  I installed uucp and it doesnt
> contain cu.  minicom doesnt work (or I have not hit on the right
> settings - doesnt seem to be documented anywhere!), cant find
> cu/socat ...
> 
[...]
> 
> On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 11:01 +1000, Neil Caldwell wrote:
>> 2008/9/17 W.Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> What packages have cu and socat?
>>>
>>> BillK

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gone?

2008-09-18 Thread Rod Whitby
sparky mat wrote:
> I am not able to find the FSO binaries/repository at
> shr.bearstech.com. Instead, I see that SHR binaries are present. I
> tried them out and there are (many) issues.

There is a shr-devel mailing list on which you can discuss those issues 
if you have an interest in getting them resolved.

> Just wondering why FSO builds were removed from here. This was my
> preferred build/repository.

FSO official feeds are now at downloads.freesmartphone.org - Mickey was 
supposed to send an email announcement, but that hasn't happened yet.

He did blog about it, but that's not really an announcement:
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/09/18/staugstin-braunschweig-berlin-taipei/


So shr.bearstech.com is now used for the purpose which it's name 
proclaims - its' the feeds for the SHR distro.

-- Rod

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2007.2: openmoko-messages segfault

2008-09-18 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
hi!

I've been using 2007.2 pretty much the whole time since I got the
phone (tried, qtopia & debian but 2007.2 was most suitable for me).

Today I got a SMS and tried to openmoko-messages to read the message
and got this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# openmoko-messages

(openmoko-messages:1698): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate():
attempt to allocate widget with width -11 and height -11
Got path 
/org/gnome/evolution/dataserver/calendar/filehome_root__evolution_memos_local_system
for new calendar

(openmoko-messages:1698): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate():
attempt to allocate widget with width -11 and height -11

(openmoko-messages:1698): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate():
attempt to allocate widget with width -11 and height -11

(openmoko-messages:1698): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate():
attempt to allocate widget with width -11 and height -11

(openmoko-messages:1698): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate():
attempt to allocate widget with width -11 and height -11

(openmoko-messages:1698): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate():
attempt to allocate widget with width -11 and height -11
Segmentation fault
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#



Anyone sharing the same experience? Any tips how to get over this?


r


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| risto at kurppa dot fi
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Re: [fso m3] vibrate over and over

2008-09-18 Thread arne anka
> I had at least one missed call, I can't find a call log, so it may have
> been more.

numbers are in zhone.log.
i hacked an ugly script extracting those numbers -- but if you reboot,  
zhone.log is created fom scratch (still want to do it in python, but the  
documentation is ... sparse and hard to find).
the script puts out date, time and number

#!/bin/bash
LINES=`grep "CALL STATUS" /tmp/zhone.log | grep incoming`

declare -a LINE
LINE=(`echo $LINES`)
#echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

echo "CALLS"

for (( i=0;i<[EMAIL PROTECTED];i++ )); do
if [ $(($i%21)) = 0 ]; then
 echo ${LINE[$i]} ${LINE[$((i+1))]} ":" `echo  ${LINE[$(($i+12))]}  
| cut -f2 -d"'" -`
fi
done

echo "DONE"

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Re: kernel panic on the second boot from the sd

2008-09-18 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| The problem is that sometimes when Linux tries to access the sd card,
| the card isn't ready yet and the first read doesn't get any data. After
| the first successful read in a session everything's gravy and you can
| read/write all you want, but in some circumstances software gives up at
| the first error so you never get a chance to try again.  For instance if
| that first access is attempting to get the partition table and fails,
| then the kernel is going to think no partitions exist.  In the case with
| the kernel panic on boot, the "unknown-block (179,2)" is exactly the
| same numbers I get and (I assume) it's trying to either access block 179
| of partition 2, or a partition starting at block 179 (the first block of
| partition 2?) and get sector 2 of it.  In any case what is going on here

No, these are the device numbers, where 179 is the mmc block devices.
It's basically saying that the second partition of that device doesn't
exist.

These would always be the numbers you see if you ask to boot from
mmcblk0p2 regardless of what the problem is.

I think you're right about the card not being ready somehow and timing
out though.

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Re: kernel panic on the second boot from the sd

2008-09-18 Thread Dennis Ferron
I've been having the identical problem with an 8Gb sandisk SDHC.  Is the
original poster seeing this with the 512MB card that comes with the phone,
or a different one?  (I've not seen this behavior with the original card.)
I don't have a fix yet but I think I can explain what's going on here.

The problem is that sometimes when Linux tries to access the sd card, the
card isn't ready yet and the first read doesn't get any data. After the
first successful read in a session everything's gravy and you can read/write
all you want, but in some circumstances software gives up at the first error
so you never get a chance to try again.  For instance if that first access
is attempting to get the partition table and fails, then the kernel is going
to think no partitions exist.  In the case with the kernel panic on boot,
the "unknown-block (179,2)" is exactly the same numbers I get and (I assume)
it's trying to either access block 179 of partition 2, or a partition
starting at block 179 (the first block of partition 2?) and get sector 2 of
it.  In any case what is going on here is that uboot can read the card
correctly and it loaded the kernel from the small 8 MB space in partition 1,
but when the kernel turns around to load the root file system from partition
2, the reads don't work and the kernel thinks there isn't anything there.
 The fact that the kernel got loaded at all doesn't prove the kernel can
access the card, because uboot did that work.  The kernel doesn't try to
access the card until it looks for the root file system, at which point it
panics when the read fails.

You phrased the subject very specifically that it happens on second boot
from sd.  You could mean you can boot once and it is ok, but not a second
time.  However, the other way to read that phrase, and the way I'm
interpreting your meaning because it describes the problem I'm having and I
think we're having the same problem, is that you always have to try twice to
boot, once getting nowhere and the second time getting to kernel panic.  I
don't know if you managed to catch what is on the screen the first time you
try to boot because it flashes very quickly before disappearing, but I
rebooted over and over to read it:  what happens (at least on my phone) is
the first time you try to boot *uboot itself* fails to read the sd and can't
find the boot partition.  It drops me back to the NAND uboot menu
automatcially.  On the *second* try after that, it loads the kernel
correctly.  This makes me think that the first attempt from uboot somehow
"warmed up" the card so that it was read the second time uboot accessed it.

This is not really a boot problem but a problem the partition table.  When I
first tried my card, I was able to partition it and put Debian on it.  The
next time I booted my phone (from flash) I couldn't access the card at all.
 Sometimes I had mmcblk0 only, other times I had mmcblk0p1 and p2.
 Sometimes I could mount them and sometimes not.  But I found in this thread
on kernel trap someone with a similar problem had a "voodoo" workaround:

http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2008/7/23/2653864/thread#mid-2653864

Most of what he was doing for the voodoo was irrelevant, but I noticed that
he did "fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0" several times (with different, illogical
results each time).  He was doing that to see when the card showed up; I
suspected that rather than just telling you the card was showing up, it
actually was the part of the voodoo that caused the card to work!  Basically
I think what he was doing was triggering a read from block 0 of the card
over and over, until finally it gets a successful read.  As I said, once you
get 1 successful read, you can read/write all you want after that.  Let me
show you a log of what it looked like on my phone when I did this.  First, I
list /dev; notice how only mmcblk0 shows up, not p1 or p2:

login as: root
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls /dev

mmcblk0 ram14   usbmon0
mtd0ram15   usbmon1

I removed lines from the ls listing for brevity; note just though that mtd0
follows mmcblk0, where is p1 and p2?  Now I run fdisk over and over, watch
as the output changes:

First run, nothing:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0


Second run, finds it but finds no partitions:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0

Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 7948 MB, 7948206080 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 242560 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

Disk /dev/mmcblk0 doesn't contain a valid partition table


Third run, jackpot!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0

Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 7948 MB, 7948206080 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 242560 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks  Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1   1 2457832  83 Linux
/dev/mmcblk0p2 246  242560 7754080  83 Linux

But /dev/mmcblk0p1 a

Om 2007.2 - phone battery critically low

2008-09-18 Thread Joachim Ott
I get this message sometimes when I'm connected to the desktop PC via USB
and when the battery is charged to 100% (see
http://picasaweb.google.de/Joachim.Ott/NeoFreerunner#5247422437633168578) -
but after that, discharging starts (it was down to 94% when I took this
screenshot). I have to ack the message, unplug USB and plug in again, before
charging (together with the charging symbol in the upper right corner)
starts again. I wonder which program ist emitting this message.
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Re: Sound quality in calls.

2008-09-18 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 18 September 2008, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> Tom Yates wrote:
> > i experimented yesterday with turning on the hardware echo cancellation,
> > and that worked for one call (allowed me to increase Speaker Playback
> > Volume to 117) but then things went back to being very echoey.  so unless
> > i'm willing to have a minicom session at the beginning of every call,
> > that's not usable right now; i'll have to wait until the AT%N0187 is
> > integrated into qtopia's call-handling logic.
>
> So do you think that calling that AT command before of doing/answering a
> call would improve the sound quality?
> If it is, I guess this could be done quite easily in the code... So if I
> find some free time, I'll try it!

It was persistent over 2 calls when I tried it in FSO, but it certainly 
shouldn't do any harm. I used mickeyterm to enable and disable it mid call to 
check that call to call variability wasn't playing a part. It may also be 
worth trying some of the other settings. From the hardware list post:

  "0083" "Short AEC is active"
  "0283" "Long AEC is active"
  "028B" "Long AEC -6 dB is active"
  "0293" "Long AEC -12 dB is active"
  "029B" "Long AEC -18 dB is active"
  "0105" "Noise reduction is active"
  "0125" "Noise reduction -6 dB is active"
  "0145" "Noise reduction -12 dB is active"
  "0165" "Noise reduction -18 dB is active"
  "0187" "Both AEC and Noise reduction are active"
  "0001" "AEC and Noise reduction are unactivated"

These are bitmasked. From LSB upward the usage appears to be:
LSB - always true
AEC (short or long)
NR
-6dB on AEC
-12dB on AEC
-6dB on NR
-12dB on NR
AEC (short or long)
NR
Long AEC

So far AFAIK only 0001 (nothing) and 0187 (short AEC and NR) have been tried. 
What does Long AEC do? Or -XdB for AEC and NR? Do other combinations than 
those listed work? Does 0387 give us Long AEC and NR?

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Re: [OM2008.08] Couple of noob questions on opkg

2008-09-18 Thread Christian Adams
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just use the force luke .. err .. search the wiki and the list- 
archives - you will find all the answers you need ..

greetings, morlac - not understanding why people always are that lazy

Am 18.09.2008 um 18:00 schrieb Gothnet:

>
>
> does opkg act like apt? For instance, if I keep roughly up to date  
> using
> opkg update and opkg upgrade will the kernel, system components,  
> sound etc
> etc stay up to date, or is it only being used for X11 apps?
>
> I'm asking because I only got qtopia-x11 updates the last couple of  
> times I
> tried, which implies either that the team are mostly working on  
> front-end
> stuff, or that opkg is limited to that domain and I'll have to  
> flash further
> OM2008.08 images as they are released if I want to update the  
> system. Which
> is it?
>
>
> Second question - is it easy to installl FSDOM/FDOM (whichever it  
> is) to
> SDHC?
> Currently I have Debian/FSO on there but don't use it as it stopped  
> picking
> up the GSM signal for some reason, and would quite like to try out  
> FSDOM.
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Re: fso-testing feed out of sync

2008-09-18 Thread Richard Cooke



Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> 
> Am Thursday 18 September 2008 17:47:12 schrieb Richard Cooke:
>> Any chance you could make the relevant ipks available please? I can't get
>> the build system to work on my ubuntu box.
> 
> How can we help to fix that? Did you file a bug report?
> -- 
> :M:
> 
I have not filed a bug report up until now as I was not sure that the
breakage was not due to my installation of non-standard e packages. Now I
have the same problem having flashed the whole image I will do so.
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Re: fso-testing feed out of sync

2008-09-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Thursday 18 September 2008 17:47:12 schrieb Richard Cooke:
> Any chance you could make the relevant ipks available please? I can't get
> the build system to work on my ubuntu box.

How can we help to fix that? Did you file a bug report?
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[OM2008.08] Couple of noob questions on opkg

2008-09-18 Thread Gothnet


does opkg act like apt? For instance, if I keep roughly up to date using
opkg update and opkg upgrade will the kernel, system components, sound etc
etc stay up to date, or is it only being used for X11 apps?

I'm asking because I only got qtopia-x11 updates the last couple of times I
tried, which implies either that the team are mostly working on front-end
stuff, or that opkg is limited to that domain and I'll have to flash further
OM2008.08 images as they are released if I want to update the system. Which
is it?


Second question - is it easy to installl FSDOM/FDOM (whichever it is) to
SDHC?
Currently I have Debian/FSO on there but don't use it as it stopped picking
up the GSM signal for some reason, and would quite like to try out FSDOM.
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Re: fso-testing feed out of sync

2008-09-18 Thread Richard Cooke


-stacy wrote:
> 
> edje is out of sync with e/illume and friends:
> 
> libedje0_0.9.9.043+cvs20080802-r0_armv4t.ipk
> edje-utils_0.9.9.043+cvs20080802-r0_armv4t.ipk
> edje-viewer_0.0.0+svnr35984-r1_armv4t.ipk
> illume_0.0+svnr35984-r13_armv4t.ipk
> e-wm_0.16.999.043+svnr35984-r11_armv4t.ipk
> 
> This causes e to fail to start and thus xserver-nodm doesn't complete.
> 
> I was able to build my own edje packages, but no matter what I did I 
> could not convince opkg to install them instead of the ones in the 
> repository (I think I could learn to hate opkg); I finally just unpacked 
> them by hand and copied the files into place.
> 
> My FSO-testing is now working again.
> 
> -stacy
> 
> 

fso-testing is still broken. Out of desparation I have flashed the latest
fso-testing image from downloads.freesmartphone.org. x.log still shows 
enlightenment: symbol lookup error: enlightenment: undefined symbol:
edje_scale_set

Any chance you could make the relevant ipks available please? I can't get
the build system to work on my ubuntu box.

Thanks,


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Re: [fso m3] vibrate over and over

2008-09-18 Thread Ian
Looks like you beat me to the punch Marco. Not to mention you have
pointed out how to do the same thing with less typing, thanks!

Cheers,
-Ian

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:05 AM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim Ancona wrote:
>> Matt wrote:
>>> I installed FSO milstone III on my FR, and left it on my desk at home.
>>> When I came home, I noticed it was vibrating, over and over.
>>>
>>> I had at least one missed call, I can't find a call log, so it may have
>>> been more.
>>> The phone kept vibrating until I had unlocked zhone (1224) and clicked
>>> reject, several times.  Would have been virating most of the day.
>>>
>>> Is this a known bug?
>>
>> I had the same thing happen yesterday with zhone in Debian. I made a
>> test call, didn't answer it, and the only way to make the phone stop
>> vibrating was to reboot it--multiple clicks of the reject button had no
>> effect.
>
> Echoing a 0 in the "files" in /sys/class/leds/neo1973\:vibrator/ should
> fix this issue without rebooting (edit both delay_on, delay_off and
> brightness)...
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Re: [fso m3] vibrate over and over

2008-09-18 Thread Ian
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Jim Ancona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matt wrote:
>> I installed FSO milstone III on my FR, and left it on my desk at home.
>> When I came home, I noticed it was vibrating, over and over.
>>
>> I had at least one missed call, I can't find a call log, so it may have
>> been more.
>> The phone kept vibrating until I had unlocked zhone (1224) and clicked
>> reject, several times.  Would have been virating most of the day.
>>
>> Is this a known bug?
>
> I had the same thing happen yesterday with zhone in Debian. I made a
> test call, didn't answer it, and the only way to make the phone stop
> vibrating was to reboot it--multiple clicks of the reject button had no
> effect.
>
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This won't solve the problem, but to shut off the vibrator without
rebooting you can also do:
echo 0 > 
'/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-vibrator.0/leds/neo1973:vibrator/brightness'

I haven't tried that from Debian, just FDOM, but unless something
relevant is different in the kernel it should work.

Needless to say I had some fun with a shell script and that control
the other day. I'm not entirely sure why the kernel is using the terms
"leds" or "brightness" here - I guess the interface was close enough
that they just used/called the same code. The 3 LEDs are controlled in
the same manner but different files as you would assume.

-Ian

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Re: [fso m3] vibrate over and over

2008-09-18 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Jim Ancona wrote:
> Matt wrote:
>> I installed FSO milstone III on my FR, and left it on my desk at home.
>> When I came home, I noticed it was vibrating, over and over.
>>
>> I had at least one missed call, I can't find a call log, so it may have 
>> been more.
>> The phone kept vibrating until I had unlocked zhone (1224) and clicked 
>> reject, several times.  Would have been virating most of the day.
>>
>> Is this a known bug?
> 
> I had the same thing happen yesterday with zhone in Debian. I made a 
> test call, didn't answer it, and the only way to make the phone stop 
> vibrating was to reboot it--multiple clicks of the reject button had no 
> effect.

Echoing a 0 in the "files" in /sys/class/leds/neo1973\:vibrator/ should
fix this issue without rebooting (edit both delay_on, delay_off and
brightness)...

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Re: Sound quality in calls.

2008-09-18 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Armin ranjbar wrote:
> the Mplayer on om2008 is directly connected to OSS not alsa, when i -ao
> alsa it becomes 'very sensible' to loads , audio stop and resumes even
> after each characters into terminals , strange ...

That's true... Using the oss output is really better here too.

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Re: Sound quality in calls.

2008-09-18 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Tom Yates wrote:
> i experimented yesterday with turning on the hardware echo cancellation, 
> and that worked for one call (allowed me to increase Speaker Playback 
> Volume to 117) but then things went back to being very echoey.  so unless 
> i'm willing to have a minicom session at the beginning of every call, 
> that's not usable right now; i'll have to wait until the AT%N0187 is 
> integrated into qtopia's call-handling logic.

So do you think that calling that AT command before of doing/answering a
call would improve the sound quality?
If it is, I guess this could be done quite easily in the code... So if I
find some free time, I'll try it!

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Re: [fso m3] vibrate over and over

2008-09-18 Thread Jim Ancona
Matt wrote:
> I installed FSO milstone III on my FR, and left it on my desk at home.
> When I came home, I noticed it was vibrating, over and over.
> 
> I had at least one missed call, I can't find a call log, so it may have 
> been more.
> The phone kept vibrating until I had unlocked zhone (1224) and clicked 
> reject, several times.  Would have been virating most of the day.
> 
> Is this a known bug?

I had the same thing happen yesterday with zhone in Debian. I made a 
test call, didn't answer it, and the only way to make the phone stop 
vibrating was to reboot it--multiple clicks of the reject button had no 
effect.

Jim

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Re: [fso m3] vibrate over and over

2008-09-18 Thread Daniel Benoy
When I first read that subject line I thought it was porn spam :p

On Thursday 18 September 2008 09:22:19 Matt wrote:
> I installed FSO milstone III on my FR, and left it on my desk at home.
> When I came home, I noticed it was vibrating, over and over.
> 
> I had at least one missed call, I can't find a call log, so it may have 
> been more.
> The phone kept vibrating until I had unlocked zhone (1224) and clicked 
> reject, several times.  Would have been virating most of the day.
> 
> Is this a known bug?
> I tried to access the trak to check but http://www.freesmartphone.org 
> appears to be down for me.
> 
> Regards
> 
> ~ matt
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[fso m3] vibrate over and over

2008-09-18 Thread Matt
I installed FSO milstone III on my FR, and left it on my desk at home.
When I came home, I noticed it was vibrating, over and over.

I had at least one missed call, I can't find a call log, so it may have 
been more.
The phone kept vibrating until I had unlocked zhone (1224) and clicked 
reject, several times.  Would have been virating most of the day.

Is this a known bug?
I tried to access the trak to check but http://www.freesmartphone.org 
appears to be down for me.

Regards

~ matt

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Re: [FSO] GPRS not functioning in M3

2008-09-18 Thread Dylan Semler
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Am Thursday 18 September 2008 03:05:01 schrieb Dylan Semler:
> > Has anyone else had their GPRS stop working since flashing FSO M3.  It
> was
> > working for me in M2.  I've filed a bug about it[1] but no action so far.
> >
> > [1] http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/140
>
> I see this line here:
>
> ogsmd.pdp INFO configuring ppp for user 'x' w/ password 'x'
>
> I doubt that's correct for T-Mobile. Please try again with "" for user and
> password. MS2 did not care for user and password settings, MS3 does care :)
>
>
I updated the mdbus command to:

mdbus -s $BUSNAME $OBJECTPATH $METHODNAME $APN "" ""

but I appear to have the same result.

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Re: Sound quality in calls.

2008-09-18 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 18 September 2008, Armin ranjbar wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:50:03 +0100
>
> Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks. This sort of question is _much_ more likely to get a useful
> > answer.
> >
> > I've not looked into this directly, but IIRC there were reports of
> > pulseaudio doing sample rate conversion on almost everything that was
> > played, munching CPU in the process and not necessarily leaving enough
> > for smooth decode of the media file. The media player in 2007.2 was
> > apparently affected by this, but if patched to use alsa directly it was
> > fine. I can't verify this as I had gstreamer errors with the mp3 I tried
> > it with. I think pulseaudio has been dropped from 2008.8 and FSO because
> > of this. I don't know what the situation is with qtopia, but if you run
> > top while playing a file you should see if anything's  hogging CPU. I
> > suggest you search the list archives for the original reports on this
> > issue as they probably contain details I've forgotten or got wrong ;-)
> >
> > mplayer by default  plays directly through alsa so isn't affected by the
> > sound server issues. That you say sound is nearly perfect in this case
> > shows the hardware limitation isn't really the issue.
> >
> > I haven't looked closely at the whole media playback issue so I don't
> > know what the best solution is. If you're lucky someone who does might
> > read this, but you may be better off reposting with a more appropriate
> > subject line.
>
> Already filed a bug on this :
> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1956

You probably won't get much response to that bug report, first because it 
lacks sufficient detail, and second because it's against 2007.2 which is now 
more or less unsupported by Openmoko.

For improved bug reporting see the links below. I thought the policy was 
supposed to be linked from the front page of the bug tracker, but it seems 
not to be. Details like exact version numbers and the repositories the 
packages came from are important for duplicating your bug and working out why 
it doesn't happen for someone else.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bug_Filing_Policy
http://www.mail-archive.com/devel%40lists.openmoko.org/msg01462.html

2007.2 is being converted to use the FSO interfaces to make the 'Stable Hybrid 
Release' (SHR). So far there is no release image for this project, but they 
may have more ideas on this.

> the Mplayer on om2008 is directly connected to OSS not alsa, when i -ao
> alsa it becomes 'very sensible' to loads , audio stop and resumes even
> after each characters into terminals , strange ...

Have you had a look at CPU load? Is this repeatable? This is different to the 
bug report.

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Re: Sound quality in calls.

2008-09-18 Thread Armin ranjbar
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:50:03 +0100
Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> Thanks. This sort of question is _much_ more likely to get a useful
> answer.
> 
> I've not looked into this directly, but IIRC there were reports of
> pulseaudio doing sample rate conversion on almost everything that was
> played, munching CPU in the process and not necessarily leaving enough
> for smooth decode of the media file. The media player in 2007.2 was
> apparently affected by this, but if patched to use alsa directly it was
> fine. I can't verify this as I had gstreamer errors with the mp3 I tried
> it with. I think pulseaudio has been dropped from 2008.8 and FSO because
> of this. I don't know what the situation is with qtopia, but if you run
> top while playing a file you should see if anything's  hogging CPU. I
> suggest you search the list archives for the original reports on this
> issue as they probably contain details I've forgotten or got wrong ;-)
> 
> mplayer by default  plays directly through alsa so isn't affected by the
> sound server issues. That you say sound is nearly perfect in this case
> shows the hardware limitation isn't really the issue.
> 
> I haven't looked closely at the whole media playback issue so I don't
> know what the best solution is. If you're lucky someone who does might
> read this, but you may be better off reposting with a more appropriate
> subject line.

Already filed a bug on this :
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1956

the Mplayer on om2008 is directly connected to OSS not alsa, when i -ao
alsa it becomes 'very sensible' to loads , audio stop and resumes even
after each characters into terminals , strange ...

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Re: [FSO] GPRS not functioning in M3

2008-09-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Thursday 18 September 2008 03:05:01 schrieb Dylan Semler:
> Has anyone else had their GPRS stop working since flashing FSO M3.  It was
> working for me in M2.  I've filed a bug about it[1] but no action so far.
>
> [1] http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/140

I see this line here:

ogsmd.pdp INFO configuring ppp for user 'x' w/ password 'x'

I doubt that's correct for T-Mobile. Please try again with "" for user and 
password. MS2 did not care for user and password settings, MS3 does care :)

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help please with autologin on debian/xfce

2008-09-18 Thread Robin Paulson
i installed debian after getting my freerunner, but want it to
autologin under xfce as a least-privileged user on startup

i installed xfce and followed all the instructions under
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Running_X_as_normal_user but it
still logs in as root

are those instructions completely correct? there's a couple of things
there that don't look 100% correct/are written badly

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Re: Sound quality in calls.

2008-09-18 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 18 September 2008, Armin ranjbar wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:29:53 +0100
> Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I can understand your point now , this is my problem :
>
> VERY bad sound quality using Headset under Qtopia and
> openmoko mediaplayer , lots of Strange noises , echoes , and totally
> unlistenable quality .
>
> you know what is strange about it ? using Mplayer sound quality is Nearly
> perfect ( except for lack of bass , which is not very important ) , any
> idea ?!
>
> is this the issue with pulse audio and or soundserver ?

Thanks. This sort of question is _much_ more likely to get a useful answer.

I've not looked into this directly, but IIRC there were reports of pulseaudio 
doing sample rate conversion on almost everything that was played, munching 
CPU in the process and not necessarily leaving enough for smooth decode of 
the media file. The media player in 2007.2 was apparently affected by this, 
but if patched to use alsa directly it was fine. I can't verify this as I had 
gstreamer errors with the mp3 I tried it with. I think pulseaudio has been 
dropped from 2008.8 and FSO because of this. I don't know what the situation 
is with qtopia, but if you run top while playing a file you should see if 
anything's  hogging CPU. I suggest you search the list archives for the 
original reports on this issue as they probably contain details I've 
forgotten or got wrong ;-)

mplayer by default  plays directly through alsa so isn't affected by the sound 
server issues. That you say sound is nearly perfect in this case shows the 
hardware limitation isn't really the issue.

I haven't looked closely at the whole media playback issue so I don't know 
what the best solution is. If you're lucky someone who does might read this, 
but you may be better off reposting with a more appropriate subject line.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gone?

2008-09-18 Thread Richard Cooke


sparky mat wrote:
> 
> I am not able to find the FSO binaries/repository at
> shr.bearstech.com. Instead, I see that SHR binaries are present. I
> tried them out and there are (many) issues.
> 
> Just wondering why FSO builds were removed from here. This was my
> preferred build/repository.
> 
> 

Mine too, although I have had issues with the fso-testing feed over the last
few days with x not starting. Hopefully it will be back up when they have
fixed it. Either way, it would be nice to know what's happening.

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Re: Sound quality in calls.

2008-09-18 Thread Armin ranjbar
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:29:53 +0100
Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I can understand your point now , this is my problem :

VERY bad sound quality using Headset under Qtopia and
openmoko mediaplayer , lots of Strange noises , echoes , and totally
unlistenable quality . 

you know what is strange about it ? using Mplayer sound quality is Nearly
perfect ( except for lack of bass , which is not very important ) , any
idea ?! 

is this the issue with pulse audio and or soundserver ?


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Re: GPRS in FDOM

2008-09-18 Thread Armin ranjbar
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:50:08 +0530
"sparky mat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Take a look at Service application and Manual GPRS article wiki , that
will do


> I am trying the FDOM images. Is there a GUI to configure GPRS?
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GPRS in FDOM

2008-09-18 Thread sparky mat
I am trying the FDOM images. Is there a GUI to configure GPRS?

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