Re: [swinog] IPv4 already exhausted at IANA ?
2010/12/3 Manfredo Miserocchi : Hi Manfredo, > But we're working on Ipv6 from 10 years, previewing this moment. If operators > are not ready yet, this is not because > nobody had care of it. In other words, I'm not seeing anything strange in the > fact that IPv4 are in effect finished. If > NRO decided to distribute last /8s in such way, or in another, doesn't > matter. The fact is that the D-day is near us and > we cannot continue to surprise ourselves every time if this happens. I agree with you, it's not a surprise. I wanted to send a well-argumented reminder for those who still think that the counter is "just a counter". Given the audience of the list in Switzerland and outside, it's always good to tickle people who missed the event, especially when they're planning their budget for the year to come. Normally Freddy or Jeroen would do that but for once they were maybe "exhausted" ;) Guillaume ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IPv4 already exhausted at IANA ?
-Original Message- From: Guillaume Leclanche To: swinog Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 00:27:13 +0100 Subject: [swinog] IPv4 already exhausted at IANA ? Hi Guillaume, > I noticed on this list no special reaction to the fact that IANA has > only 7*/8 left after the allocations on Nov. 30th. So I thought I'd > start a thread to share my thoughts on the fact that IPv4 is in > reality _already_ exhausted at IANA. yes, this is quite true, as the counter indicate March 1st as the deadline. http://www.wari.net/ipv4exh.htm But we're working on Ipv6 from 10 years, previewing this moment. If operators are not ready yet, this is not because nobody had care of it. In other words, I'm not seeing anything strange in the fact that IPv4 are in effect finished. If NRO decided to distribute last /8s in such way, or in another, doesn't matter. The fact is that the D-day is near us and we cannot continue to surprise ourselves every time if this happens. Thanks Fredy for his presentation (I saw it twice this year :D) and for bringing IPv6 to Internet Citizens. Manfredo Si precisa che le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono riservate e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario. Qualora il presente messaggio Le fosse pervenuto per errore, La invitiamo ad eliminarlo senza copiarlo ed a non inoltrarlo a terzi, dandocene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie. You are hereby informed that this message contains confidential informations intended for the addressee's use only. If yu're not the addressee and have received this message by mistake, please delete it and immediately notify us. You may not copy or disseminate this message to anyone. Thank you. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IPv4 already exhausted at IANA ?
Am 03.12.10 00:55, schrieb Fredy Kuenzler: > Am 03.12.2010 00:27, schrieb Guillaume Leclanche: >> I noticed on this list no special reaction to the fact that IANA has only >> 7*/8 left after the allocations on Nov. 30th. So I thought I'd start a >> thread to share my thoughts on the fact that IPv4 is in reality _already_ >> exhausted at IANA. >> >> [...] > > Good summary, thanks for this. > >> Now if you have not thought yet about how your network will reach the >> networks that will be IPv6-only starting middle of next year, well ... >> I'm sure a lot of people on the list are ready to help :) > > I'd say some have to cancel christmas holiday and network freeze periods... > too bad. Anyway, I thought I share the links of the latest versions my > presentations I gave earlier in various occations, which may be a start to > make the network IPv6 ready. > > http://www.blogg.ch/uploads/IPv6-deployment-for-the-IPv4-clueful-heise-ipv6-conference.pdf > > http://www.blogg.ch/uploads/Native-IPv6-via-xdsl-how-to-tweak-your-LNS.pdf Nice presentations, thanks for sharing them. I've got native IPv6 even on my home (ADSL) network with a /48 and it works nearly perfect. Just not sure if my ISP is knowledgeable about delegating the DNS reverse lookups to my server > > Good luck to all v6 newbies! > > F. > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IPv4 already exhausted at IANA ?
Am 03.12.2010 00:27, schrieb Guillaume Leclanche: I noticed on this list no special reaction to the fact that IANA has only 7*/8 left after the allocations on Nov. 30th. So I thought I'd start a thread to share my thoughts on the fact that IPv4 is in reality _already_ exhausted at IANA. [...] Good summary, thanks for this. Now if you have not thought yet about how your network will reach the networks that will be IPv6-only starting middle of next year, well ... I'm sure a lot of people on the list are ready to help :) I'd say some have to cancel christmas holiday and network freeze periods... too bad. Anyway, I thought I share the links of the latest versions my presentations I gave earlier in various occations, which may be a start to make the network IPv6 ready. http://www.blogg.ch/uploads/IPv6-deployment-for-the-IPv4-clueful-heise-ipv6-conference.pdf http://www.blogg.ch/uploads/Native-IPv6-via-xdsl-how-to-tweak-your-LNS.pdf Good luck to all v6 newbies! F. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] IPv4 already exhausted at IANA ?
Hello, I noticed on this list no special reaction to the fact that IANA has only 7*/8 left after the allocations on Nov. 30th. So I thought I'd start a thread to share my thoughts on the fact that IPv4 is in reality _already_ exhausted at IANA. If you read IANA policies, you know that among the 7 "/8" (some here will know a /8 as "class A" even though it's incorrect), 5 are reserved (1 per RIR) and will be allocated when they are the only ones left. That leaves IANA with only 2 "/8". But APNIC is _already_ entitled to get these addresses, as per IANA policy (they don't have enough left to hold 9 months at their average alloc rate). And when they will in reality request these addresses, it will trigger the allocation of the "last 5", and, well, the end. The request from APNIC could come tomorrow, or next week, or in 3/4 months. They can do it whenever they want. It doesn't matter, the way the movie ends is already known : APNIC will get 3 more /8, our beloved RIPE will get 1 more, as well as ARIN, LACNIC, and AFRINIC. If you have another understanding of the situation, please share, I didn't find a lot of real analysis on the current situation, mainly refs to potaroo, so I'd be happy to discuss. Now if you have not thought yet about how your network will reach the networks that will be IPv6-only starting middle of next year, well ... I'm sure a lot of people on the list are ready to help :) Guillaume ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
