t-and-f: A couple of things
Netters: Since the AL pennant race somehow got into the list, I pass along this story told me last night by a now-retired track coach from NJ: He weas addressing the faculty at his school and, to lighten things up, and as a die-hard Red Sox fan, offered this comparison The last time the Sox won the Word Series (1918), there were Civil war Veterans in the stands who were removed from their war by 53 years. Today;s Red Sox fans include WWII veterans who are 57 years removed from their war., It does give you some perspective of the agony those fans go through. Thankfully, I'm not one of them. On another notes, Jeremy Zagorski of Parsippany Hills, runnerup in the NJ outdoor 1600 last spring and indoor champion at the distance, ran 3rd this evening in the 5K United Way run in Morristown in 15:58+ His last two CC seasons were terminated early by injury and illness; hopefully the jionx won't hit for a third time. Ed Grant
t-and-f: Re: metric converter (chapter two: vice versa)
Caution- the basic assumption is that all of these marks were measured metrically, and tables or software tools like this 'converter' serve to convert to imperial using standard procedures and assumptions. It is not directly reversable mathematically, if all you have is an imperial mark which has ALREADY been converted, rounded down, etc. Probably half the time you'd come out with a mark that is slightly shorter than the original metric mark. However, if all you're looking for is a 'ballpark' number, it would work, assuming you can successfully reverse engineer the formula. (oops...is "ballpark" a commonly used descriptive term outside the U.S.?...maybe not...it means about the same thing as "approximate" or "rough order of magnitude") RT On Fri, 06 Sep 2002 03:33:55 +0200, you wrote: >Hallo all. >Randy: thanks for looking this up! > >My problem is: I am not metrically challenged, but 'imperially'... >With my college mathematics background I was convinced I should be able >to reverse >the formula used, but it proved a bit too much work in the first try >(especially >the 'rounding' rules). Can anybody (or has anyboady already) invert(ed) >it for me? > >Thanks! >Wilmar > > >Randy Treadway schreef: > >> I've switched computers in the last few months and can't find the original >> Rand-o-Meter, as Tony labeled it, BUT >> >> I found it in the uoregon archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/t-and-f@lists.uoregon.edu/msg01896/metric1.xls >> >> The usual caveats apply. Don't use it to convert anything that is going to be >> published as 'official' results- the stat guys will have conniptions. >> But feel free to use it when looking at metric marks and wondering 'how far >> was that in feet and inches?', when a T&FN >> green/red/blue/purple/chartreuse/orange or whatever color book is not at hand. >> (i.e. when I'm at the office monitoring the Friday IAAF GP super meet results, >> and my T*FN book is at home) >> >> By the way, my new computer runs on Windows 2000, >> and when I clicked on this Excel file url it ran >> right in the Internet Explorer window- something >> that might be very handy. All I have to do is >> bookmark the location (at least as long as the >> archive is there). Your mileage may differ. >> >> Randy >> >> On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:44:19 -0500 Lee Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> > Of course, don't forget that the conversions >> > for vertical jumps and >> > horizontal jumps/throws are slightly different, >> > if you're using it >> > for track conversions. >> > >> > Lee >> > >> > >Netters, >> > >A few years back somebody posted a metric >> > conversion >> > >program that ran on Excel to the list. In >> > switching >> > >jobs etc. I have managed to lose that program >> > and I'm >> > >wondering if anyone could email to me directly >> > since >> > >it is not permisable to post an attachment to >> > the >> > >list. I thought it was Randy Treadway's >> > Rand-O-Meter, >> > >but I might be mistaken. Thanks for all the >> > help. >> > > >> > >ps >> > >am enjoying the thread on the media >> > particularly with >> > >all the points of view from Garry, Lee etc. >> > > >> > >= >> > >Keith Whitman >> > >Head Coach, Men's and Women's >> > >Cross Country/Track & Field >> > >Muskingum College, New Concord, Ohio 43762 >> > >(740) 826-8018-Office >> > >(330) 677-4631-Home >> > >(740) 826-8300-Fax >> > > >> > >__ >> > >Do You Yahoo!? >> > >Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes >> > >http://finance.yahoo.com >> > >> > -- >> > Lee Nichols >> > Assistant News Editor >> > The Austin Chronicle >> > 512/454-5766, ext. 138 >> > fax 512/458-6910 >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >
t-and-f: metric converter (chapter two: vice versa)
Hallo all. Randy: thanks for looking this up! My problem is: I am not metrically challenged, but 'imperially'... With my college mathematics background I was convinced I should be able to reverse the formula used, but it proved a bit too much work in the first try (especially the 'rounding' rules). Can anybody (or has anyboady already) invert(ed) it for me? Thanks! Wilmar Randy Treadway schreef: > I've switched computers in the last few months and can't find the original > Rand-o-Meter, as Tony labeled it, BUT > > I found it in the uoregon archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/t-and-f@lists.uoregon.edu/msg01896/metric1.xls > > The usual caveats apply. Don't use it to convert anything that is going to be > published as 'official' results- the stat guys will have conniptions. > But feel free to use it when looking at metric marks and wondering 'how far > was that in feet and inches?', when a T&FN > green/red/blue/purple/chartreuse/orange or whatever color book is not at hand. > (i.e. when I'm at the office monitoring the Friday IAAF GP super meet results, > and my T*FN book is at home) > > By the way, my new computer runs on Windows 2000, > and when I clicked on this Excel file url it ran > right in the Internet Explorer window- something > that might be very handy. All I have to do is > bookmark the location (at least as long as the > archive is there). Your mileage may differ. > > Randy > > On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:44:19 -0500 Lee Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Of course, don't forget that the conversions > > for vertical jumps and > > horizontal jumps/throws are slightly different, > > if you're using it > > for track conversions. > > > > Lee > > > > >Netters, > > >A few years back somebody posted a metric > > conversion > > >program that ran on Excel to the list. In > > switching > > >jobs etc. I have managed to lose that program > > and I'm > > >wondering if anyone could email to me directly > > since > > >it is not permisable to post an attachment to > > the > > >list. I thought it was Randy Treadway's > > Rand-O-Meter, > > >but I might be mistaken. Thanks for all the > > help. > > > > > >ps > > >am enjoying the thread on the media > > particularly with > > >all the points of view from Garry, Lee etc. > > > > > >= > > >Keith Whitman > > >Head Coach, Men's and Women's > > >Cross Country/Track & Field > > >Muskingum College, New Concord, Ohio 43762 > > >(740) 826-8018-Office > > >(330) 677-4631-Home > > >(740) 826-8300-Fax > > > > > >__ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > > >http://finance.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > Lee Nichols > > Assistant News Editor > > The Austin Chronicle > > 512/454-5766, ext. 138 > > fax 512/458-6910 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
t-and-f: Gatlin goes pro - it's official
The statement is below from UTsports.com: http://utsports.ocsn.com/sports/m-track/spec-rel/090502aaa.html Tom Borish www.mactrack.net www.trackshark.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
t-and-f: wild picture
A pic I stumbled across in a google search; apparently a track in Taiwan after an earthquake: http://cgpr.ce.vt.edu/photo_album_for_geotech/Earthquake%20hazards/Rupture%20-%20Taiwan/Rupture%20Taiwan%20P3.html -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766 ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: Why The Higher World Champs Standards?
gh wrote Note that WC standards are now linked to OG, which didn't used to be the case. WHY?? If i were king the world champs would be come less like and less linked to the olympics. David Donley
Re: t-and-f: metric converter
I've switched computers in the last few months and can't find the original Rand-o-Meter, as Tony labeled it, BUT I found it in the uoregon archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/t-and-f@lists.uoregon.edu/msg01896/metric1.xls The usual caveats apply. Don't use it to convert anything that is going to be published as 'official' results- the stat guys will have conniptions. But feel free to use it when looking at metric marks and wondering 'how far was that in feet and inches?', when a T&FN green/red/blue/purple/chartreuse/orange or whatever color book is not at hand. (i.e. when I'm at the office monitoring the Friday IAAF GP super meet results, and my T*FN book is at home) By the way, my new computer runs on Windows 2000, and when I clicked on this Excel file url it ran right in the Internet Explorer window- something that might be very handy. All I have to do is bookmark the location (at least as long as the archive is there). Your mileage may differ. Randy On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:44:19 -0500 Lee Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, don't forget that the conversions > for vertical jumps and > horizontal jumps/throws are slightly different, > if you're using it > for track conversions. > > Lee > > >Netters, > >A few years back somebody posted a metric > conversion > >program that ran on Excel to the list. In > switching > >jobs etc. I have managed to lose that program > and I'm > >wondering if anyone could email to me directly > since > >it is not permisable to post an attachment to > the > >list. I thought it was Randy Treadway's > Rand-O-Meter, > >but I might be mistaken. Thanks for all the > help. > > > >ps > >am enjoying the thread on the media > particularly with > >all the points of view from Garry, Lee etc. > > > >= > >Keith Whitman > >Head Coach, Men's and Women's > >Cross Country/Track & Field > >Muskingum College, New Concord, Ohio 43762 > >(740) 826-8018-Office > >(330) 677-4631-Home > >(740) 826-8300-Fax > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > >http://finance.yahoo.com > > -- > Lee Nichols > Assistant News Editor > The Austin Chronicle > 512/454-5766, ext. 138 > fax 512/458-6910 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: t-and-f: Re: Morrocco and journalism
I'm reminded of my all-time favorite correction, from U. of Texas' student newspaper (recalling/paraphrasing from memory): "The Daily Texan reported yesterday that [Name of politician] said that the appointment of [another person] to the state water commission would be 'a stake through the heart of Barton Springs.' Actually, [politician] said he had a 'wait and see' attitude toward [the other person]. The Texan regrets the error." Lee >I'm totally confused.. > > >http://sportsserver.com/track_field/story/522930p-4148845c.html";> >SportServer.com - El Guerrouj throws support to > > >http://sportsserver.com/track_field/story/518506p-4115998c.html";> >SportServer.com - El Guerrouj says Boulami has -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: metric converter
Of course, don't forget that the conversions for vertical jumps and horizontal jumps/throws are slightly different, if you're using it for track conversions. Lee >Netters, >A few years back somebody posted a metric conversion >program that ran on Excel to the list. In switching >jobs etc. I have managed to lose that program and I'm >wondering if anyone could email to me directly since >it is not permisable to post an attachment to the >list. I thought it was Randy Treadway's Rand-O-Meter, >but I might be mistaken. Thanks for all the help. > >ps >am enjoying the thread on the media particularly with >all the points of view from Garry, Lee etc. > >= >Keith Whitman >Head Coach, Men's and Women's >Cross Country/Track & Field >Muskingum College, New Concord, Ohio 43762 >(740) 826-8018-Office >(330) 677-4631-Home >(740) 826-8300-Fax > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes >http://finance.yahoo.com -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: Viren article and journalism
Ron, "In the middle of nowhere" is a relative term(and therefore debatable) which I will take full and complete responsibility for. There was actually at least one other error in my post and that is that she finished 8th not 7th. I posted that correction immediately but the server gods saw fit not to pass it through. I actually tried to figure out where the race was held. I knew it was Debbie's club(don't know if it is yours) in Victoria but once the results were posted and the race was done, the background information including venue was gone-at least I couldn't find it. "The middle of nowhere" comment was more my take on the depth of the race. The road racing scene out there is not quite what it used to be when the Williams', Butler, your wife, McCloy, Nelson etc. etc. used to show up at road races once in a while. 350,000 people and 15:51 and 17:31 are the winning times! The horror. That, however, is a whole other thread. Regards, Martin ron bowker wrote: > Martin, > > Speaking of journalistic inaccuracy, I'm not sure whether the reference > to a "5km race out in the middle of nowhere" is a statement made by yourself > or a quote from your local newspaper. > Regardless, I would not consider a 5 K. along the harbour in downtown > Victoria (Capital of B.C., population of about 350,000, host City of the > 1994 Commonwealth Games) "out in the middle of nowhere". > > Ron Bowker > > At 02:37 PM 9/4/2002 -0400, Martin J. Dixon wrote: > >I was trying not to offend anyone. It was an observation but I stand by my > >statement and I have made it before and I am not just talking about track. > >Me thinks that it hit a little too close to home. I don't think it is > >arrogant to try to be accurate. Maybe it's just the nature of the beast > >producing 100 or so pages of newsprint on a daily basis but that article had > >several errors in it and the 5 hour one was glaring. An "endurance athlete" > >should have known better. If I made that many mistakes on a daily basis in > >my business, I would lose my client base so fast it would be shocking not to > >mention the constant dealings that I would be having with our insurance > >company. Maybe that is the standard. I don't know. Very small example. > >Yesterday morning, I am reading in our local paper about a girl from our > >area that represented Canada at the Commonwealth games in the triathlon. Our > >firm actually sponsors her. The paper said that she won the women's division > >of a 5km race out in the middle of nowhere in 16:50. I'm thinking to myself > >that the time seemed a little quick so I started poking around. I wanted to > >see the other times to see if there was some problem with the course. Here > >is what I found in about 2 minutes: > >http://pih.bc.ca/results/2002/songhees5k.html Look at the 7th place time. I > >pointed out the problem to the sports editor and they ran a correction. He > >thanked me for the information and made no editorial comments about > >"arrogance". If you make a mistake, you fix it and try to do better the next > >time. You don't deflect the blame. > >Regards, > > > > > >Martin > > > > > >Martin J. Dixon, B. Math. (Hons), C.A., Partner > >Millard, Rouse & Rosebrugh LLP > >Chartered Accountants > >P.O. Box 367 > >96 Nelson Street > >Brantford, Ontario > >N3T 5N3 > >Direct Dial: (519) 759-3708 Ext. 231 > >Telephone: (519) 759-3511 > >Private Facsimile: (519) 759-8548 > >E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Web site: www.millards.com > >Practice Areas: www.millards.com/htm/profs/m_mjdixo.htm > > > > > >IMPORTANT NOTICE: > >This email may be confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for > >the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution > >or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a > >criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email > >confirmation to the sender. > > > > > > > >James Tysell wrote: > > > >> T & F fans, > >> > >> I sent a couple of entries to the list about the Viren article to a > >> journalist friend of mine, here in N. Calif. > >> > >> Here is his reaction: > >> > >> "Yeah, if there's anything that makes me not want to cover track and > >> field, > >> it's the fact that there is so much data, coupled with some really > >> persnickety fans. Not to say all track fans are that way, but I've been > >> on > >> the t-and-f list before, and it gets pretty nauseating. > >> > >> I don't know the guy who wrote that story, but he's a Sacramento-based > >> freelancer who also seems to be an endurance athlete. He wrote some Tour > >> de > >> France stories over the summer and apparently talked to Viren when he > >> was > >> overseas. He's definitely not some "young kid." > >> > >> Anyone who says "anytime I read a newspaper article about which I am > >> intimately familiar, the errors are numerous" is just too arrogant for > >> his > >> own good." > >> > >> another perspective.. > >> > >> Jim Ty
Re: t-and-f: metric converter
here are the formulas to plug into your spreadsheet. (very handy if you have a Palm or WinCE device to bring to meets!) 1 inch = 2.54 cm 1 foot = 30.48cm 1 cm = 0.394 inches 1 m = 39.37 inches while you're at it, you can plug in the Decathlon scoring tables as well. JL - Original Message - From: "Keith Whitman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Track Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:33 AM Subject: t-and-f: metric converter > Netters, > A few years back somebody posted a metric conversion > program that ran on Excel to the list.
Re: t-and-f: Viren article and journalism and double standards
No one is attacking the journalist. We (the readers) are just correcting the facts, that's all. It's done ALL the time. Read page 2 of any newspaper under "errata". JL - Original Message - From: "malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:06 PM Subject: RE: t-and-f: Viren article and journalism and double standards > Attacking journalists when they make mistakes, however, clearly is not > appropriate or effective most of the time. >
Re: t-and-f: metric converter
I lost mine too. Please send me one too. malmo >Netters, >A few years back somebody posted a metric conversion >program that ran on Excel to the list. In switching >jobs etc. I have managed to lose that program and I'm >wondering if anyone could email to me directly since >it is not permisable to post an attachment to the >list. I thought it was Randy Treadway's Rand-O-Meter, >but I might be mistaken. Thanks for all the help. > >ps >am enjoying the thread on the media particularly with >all the points of view from Garry, Lee etc. > >= >Keith Whitman >Head Coach, Men's and Women's >Cross Country/Track & Field >Muskingum College, New Concord, Ohio 43762 >(740) 826-8018-Office >(330) 677-4631-Home >(740) 826-8300-Fax > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes >http://finance.yahoo.com >
Re: t-and-f: Viren article and journalism
In a message dated 9/4/02 3:22:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >So people call in to get corrections. These fall into two categories: >Helpful, nice people who want you to get it right; and little nitpickers >playing 'I found an error in the paper and gee you guys are idiots.' I once worked for an editor who said our paper tried to offer something for every reader. There are some people who take delight in looking for and finding errors, however miniscule, so the mistakes that we made were there to satisfy them. Jim Gerweck Running Times
Re: t-and-f: Viren article and journalism and double standards
In a message dated 9/4/02 9:07:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Attacking journalists when they make mistakes, however, clearly is not >appropriate or effective most of the time. > >- Ed Parrot > > >But it's OK for journalists to do the same? > >malmo Sure. It's in the job description. Jim Gerweck Running Times
t-and-f: metric converter
Netters, A few years back somebody posted a metric conversion program that ran on Excel to the list. In switching jobs etc. I have managed to lose that program and I'm wondering if anyone could email to me directly since it is not permisable to post an attachment to the list. I thought it was Randy Treadway's Rand-O-Meter, but I might be mistaken. Thanks for all the help. ps am enjoying the thread on the media particularly with all the points of view from Garry, Lee etc. = Keith Whitman Head Coach, Men's and Women's Cross Country/Track & Field Muskingum College, New Concord, Ohio 43762 (740) 826-8018-Office (330) 677-4631-Home (740) 826-8300-Fax __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com
