Re: [GTALUG] End of independent web browsers
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:59 PM Christopher Browne via talk wrote: > > The material takes somewhat extreme position, but it's curious that there are > only 3 "content decryption modules" out there, Widevine (Google), Fairplay > (Apple) and PlayReady (Microsoft), all of the vendors having expressed some > reluctance to license to small fry. (Apple being uninterested in > sublicensing.) > > https://boingboing.net/2020/01/08/rip-open-web-platform.html > https://blog.samuelmaddock.com/posts/the-end-of-indie-web-browsers/ > > Google seems, marginally, the "good guys" here, licensing their CDM to > various web browsers we know, but I'd not assume too much "goodness.". It's > not good to need to be so dependent upon their good graces.a > > I'd never heard of these three technology names until today. Ditto your last comment!!! I'm finding that as the assumption that the web contains all knowledge has become pervasive that the idea that if knowledge is more than 3 years old its been superseded has also taken hold. This means that a lot of scientific information is disappearing - - - - and its hard enough to find good information in the flood of drivel that pervades the web today. Its starting to look like the web is becoming a tool for manipulation of the masses and not much else. Too bad - - - - the promise was for so much more than that! --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Any experience with "Linux on Windows"?
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 07:53:31PM -0500, Paul King via talk wrote: > I have been running dual boot into Windows and Linus for decades, but had a > major problem with the latest Windows 10 in dual booting with Ubuntu. > Apparently, I have heard (can't locate the source) booting into Linux can no > longer be done on the latest major upgrade to Windows 10. And this was my > direct experience when a Windows 10 upgrade this past September all but > bricked by computer, rendering 50% of my storage inaccessible. I tried to > check the boot area, and fix the situation with a Windows disk then a Linux > disk, which rendered both systems unbootable. The problem pretty much solved > itself when I downgraded to Windows 7, not touching Linux. > > Whether it boots or not may be moot, since Windows has offered many Linux > distros to run in a windowed environment on top of Windows 10, kind of like > VLC. That is to say, you go to the Microsoft Store, download a Linux distro, > and it will install as a Windows application under Windows 10. Sample link: > https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/p/ubuntu-1804-lts/9n9tngvndl3q?activetab=pivot:overviewtab > > The link points to a copy of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. I can see from the offerings, > you can also install Debian, Suse, Fedora, and something called "Pengwin". > Beware: some of these cost money, sometimes a fair chunk of it. > > It begs the question also as to how different are these distros from Cygwin? > Sounds like these are just different attempts to duplicate what Cygwin is > doing. BTW, Cygwin itself is not offered at the Microsoft store. > > Anyone have experiences with these weird versions of Linux running on > Windows? I would like to hear about it. Any experience with how it would look > with a dual monitor? There is no issue with dual booting with Windows 10. In fact newer versions of Windows finally stopped overwriting the boot loader when you install them or upgrade. As for Linux running on Windows, it works very well, in fact so well my own laptop doesn't currently have a Linux install on it anymore because I never booted it. I can do everything I want using a Debian install running on Windows (I did buy the X410 X server app for Windows 10 which lets me run X applications in Linux which is useful). I have other machines that are dedicated Linux boxes in the house of course, but my laptop just is more useable with Windows 10 and Debian on top. My wife still dual boots Debian and Windows 10 on her laptop with no issues. Cygwin was always a bad joke in my view. It is nothing like what you get with the Windows subsystem for Linux. Cygwin tried to adapt posix compatible code into Windows calls. This instead implements a Linux kernel compatible system call layer so actual standard Linux binaries can run (there are a few exceptions due to a couple of still missing system calls, for example Qt needs a small patch to make it work). If you were to go with Windows subsystem for Linux 2 rather than the original one, then it actually runs a Linux kernel soemwhat like a virtual machine would and hence all the system calls work, and you can even do things like docker and such that require the proper kernel to work, and I believe it then has its own IP address and network stack which makes it a bit harder to setup (I have not tried it yet). Dual monitors are fine on Windows and you can place your windows however you want. I tend to use the new "Windows Terminal" to run the Linux instances with the keymappings changed to be similar to Konsole. With X410 each X app runs in a window as if it was a Windows app (you can choose to run an X desktop in a window if you really want to, but why would you?) so it integrates very well. Here is a screenshot where I have dual monitor, and Debian's gvim running as well as the Windows terminal: https://i.ibb.co/k8K1Df4/Debian-on-windows10-with-X411-and-gvim.png I do find it ammusing that these days it is Microsoft emulating Linux to run Linux binaries, rather than the days when Linux had to try to run other binaries. That happened with BSD too. Linux used to have support for running BSD binaries on x86, and these days it is the other way around instead. -- Len Sorensen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Any experience with "Linux on Windows"?
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 09:19:47PM -0500, James Knott via talk wrote: > On 2020-01-14 07:53 PM, Paul King via talk wrote: > > It begs the question also as to how different are these distros from > > Cygwin? Sounds like these are just different attempts to duplicate what > > Cygwin is doing. BTW, Cygwin itself is not offered at the Microsoft store. > > I believe the current version is a full kernel install. You get to choose. WsL1 is emulated kernel, WsL2 is actual kernel with some advantages and some disadvantages. -- Len Sorensen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Any experience with "Linux on Windows"?
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 02:19:51AM +, Peter King via talk wrote: > The real payoff is supposed to come Real Soon Now -- probably April:in WSL > 2, the Linux kernel itself will receive system calls, running on a trimmed > down version of the Hyper-V hypervisor, hosting files on a virtual ext4 > disk. It will be sort of like running VirtualBox, but outside the Box. > > Right now there is a layer that translates kernel calls into Windows calls. > It works surprisingly well. Right, I forgot about the terrible filesystem performance in WsL1 that WsL2 is supposed to fix. > I have been running Debian-on-Windows (Win10 Pro) for a few months now. It > doesn't run X11. There are complicated workarounds for this, but since I > do most of my work at the console, it doesn't bother me. YMMV. Otherwise > apt-get works as you'd expect, and so far everything runs very smoothly; > WSL 1 uses an older, conservative version of Debian stable, and I haven't > been tempted to run testing. (Well, okay, I've been tempted, but so far > I haven't given in.) Have WSL take over the whole screen and it's very > much like running Debian from the console normally. I have X410 app for windows 10, so it does run X apps. > It's pretty easy to share files between WSL and Windows: the normal windows > drive is automagically mounted at /mnt/c/. Then you just read/write to it. > > On the whole the integration is rather good. I haven't tried pushing the > limits, mostly because I haven't needed to. Windows 10 Pro seems to be one > of the occasional "solid" releases of Windows -- I haven't had it crash on > me yet, or even misbehave, and things work more or less as you'd expect. > However, I don't really know anything about Windows; this is the first time > I've even tried it since Win 3.1, so I'm no expert. > > WSL 1 runs fine (in terminal/console mode) on a second monitor. It's easy > and seamless to go from the Linux environment to Windows, and vice-versa. It certainly does work surprisingly well. Early on in the betas it was glitchy, but they fixed it up rather quickly. -- Len Sorensen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] I believe Amazon is leaking delivery information.
These social engineering fraud methods are increasingly sophisticated. Why break into your house when you can do the same from the comfort of North Korea/China/wherever and a bit of location misdirection? I find these social engineering phishing methods quite fascinating. These big companies resell their data willy nilly, so who can predict what phishing schemes people can think up. I use 3 browsers: FF, Chrome and Tor. I banish all Google-related activity to Chrome. I encourage as much misdirection and mayhem of user activity as possible. On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 15:50, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > On 1/15/20 3:46 PM, Peter King via talk wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 03:00:36PM -0500, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > > > >> When I order something from Amazon not long after I get emails from > various > >> phisherpeople claiming to be UPS or some other delivery company. > >> The messages are coming through an old email address that is badly spam > >> filtered. > > I had that very thing happen to me on an order from Amazon about ten days > > ago. The phishing was via a note from UPS that they couldn't deliver a > > package, but to get it I had to give them my credit card number ... at > the > > time I was surprised, since it followed close on the heels of one > delivery > > and right while I was waiting for another. So, almost plausible. But as > > usual, the phishing email was so clumsily written and executed that there > > was no question but that it was a fake. > > > > > Yep that's it. > Here is what I got. > > > > Dear Customer, > > > > We attempted to deliver your item at 1:30pm on 14th January, 2020. > > (Read enclosed file details) > > The delivery attempt failed because nobody was present at the shipping > > address, so this notification has been automatically sent. > > > > > > If the parcel is not scheduled for re-delivery or picked up within 72 > > hours, it will be returned to the sender. > > > > Label Number: (Read enclosed file details) > > Class: Package Services > > Service(s): (Read enclosed file details) > > Status: e-Notification sent > > > > Read the enclosed file for details. > > > > UPS Customer Service. > > > > > -- > Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 > Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 > al...@netvel.net || > > --- > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Any experience with "Linux on Windows"?
On Wed., Jan. 15, 2020, 10:15 Lennart Sorensen via talk, wrote:: > > I have X410 app for windows 10, so it does run X apps. > There's also a free X server for Windows 10. It's not accelerated, but will do in a pinch. The WSL1 terminal is awful compared to what most distros provide. Copy and paste should be renamed 'hit or miss'. Cheers Stewart > > --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
[GTALUG] I believe Amazon is leaking delivery information.
When I order something from Amazon not long after I get emails from various phisherpeople claiming to be UPS or some other delivery company. The messages are coming through an old email address that is badly spam filtered. I would like to ask if people order from Amazon check your spam folders for messages with attachments claiming to be from UPS or others. I would like to try and see if its just me or if there is a systemic problem at Amazon. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 al...@netvel.net || --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] I believe Amazon is leaking delivery information.
It is also possible that you have researched the product from a browser and the browser is giving this info away, or that Google is leaking this search info to others. There are many ways ocmpanies could track your intentions! Try searching google from an anonymous browser, unconnected to your email, but then doing the AZN purchase from another browser, and see how that works. On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 15:00, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > When I order something from Amazon not long after I get emails from > various phisherpeople claiming to be UPS or some other delivery company. > The messages are coming through an old email address that is badly spam > filtered. > > I would like to ask if people order from Amazon check your spam folders > for messages with attachments claiming to be from UPS or others. > > I would like to try and see if its just me or if there is a systemic > problem at Amazon. > > -- > Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 > Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 > al...@netvel.net || > > --- > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] I believe Amazon is leaking delivery information.
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 03:00:36PM -0500, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > When I order something from Amazon not long after I get emails from various > phisherpeople claiming to be UPS or some other delivery company. > The messages are coming through an old email address that is badly spam > filtered. > > I would like to ask if people order from Amazon check your spam folders for > messages with attachments claiming to be from UPS or others. > > I would like to try and see if its just me or if there is a systemic problem > at Amazon. I almost never see any. Certainly nothing correlated with amazon orders. -- Len Sorensen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
