Re: Where's the list rules - was Re: (No Subject)

2000-08-10 Thread Syafril Hermansyah 

Hello Thomas Fernandez,

Responding  to  your  article on Friday, August 11, 2000 at 13:59:33 GMT
+0800 (which was 11/08/2000 12:59 GMT +0700 my Local Time) :


TF>  . at the end you could add another hint for the TBOT list. ;-)

Already did since ...uhm perhaps 1 - 2 month ago :-)
But,  IMHO,  the  poster asking about List Command, so he can send blank
mail  to  [EMAIL PROTECTED] He want to change the membership
from DIGEST to NORMAL.


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Created : Friday, August 11, 2000, 13:34:55 GMT +0700

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Re: Where's the list rules - was Re: (No Subject)

2000-08-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez 

Hi Leif,

On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 06:37:04 +0900GMT (11/08/2000, 05:37 +0800GMT),
Leif Gregory wrote:

LG> 3. There comes a time in every argument that it becomes a dead
LG>horse.  If you wish to continue to beat this horse, take it
LG>to private e-mail.

   " or to the the OT group at [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

(if I may suggest this addition)

[...]
LG>d. Off-topic  posts  will be kept to a minimum. I'm *not* saying we
LG>   can't have them, sometimes they are needed to break the monotony
LG>   or  are  interesting. Just please keep them to a minimum. Please
LG>   precede  your  SUBJECT  line  with  either  of the following two
LG>   conventions:
[...]

 . at the end you could add another hint for the TBOT list. ;-)

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Where's the list rules - was Re: (No Subject)

2000-08-10 Thread Leif Gregory 

Hello John, 

On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 at 18:03:53 [GMT +0100], you wrote:
JH> Could someone please tell me where i can get a copy of the list
JH> Rules...

We are currently heavily editing them, but here is what most people
got when they subscribed:

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