Re: X-Ray: why?
***^\ ~~( __ _"o Was Fri, 28 May 2004, at 16:37:52 +0200, @ @ when Roelof Otten wrote: > Hallo Mica, > On Fri, 28 May 2004 12:39:23 +0200GMT (28-5-04, 12:39 +0200, where I > live), you wrote: MM>> Just one of the examples I use it for: since The Bat cannot write the MM>> time when a message is *sent*, I use X-Ray for writing this time in (the MM>> "sent" line in my headers). > But your ISP's smtp server will do that for you, so why the fuss? > ;-) What fuse? 8-) I use it from two reasons: 1) The time I sent it from my contraption is not same time the contraption of my ISP has (re)sent it from. But it is not so significant. 2) It is written in a much more "user friendly" form, so that even those not that skilled in reading headers can find it easily. A sub-reason 2a) is that I can add some specific data about specific profile of my communication contraption system, related to the time a message is living it, which means something to some of my correspondents, and to me myself. -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
Hallo Mica, On Fri, 28 May 2004 12:39:23 +0200GMT (28-5-04, 12:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MM> Just one of the examples I use it for: since The Bat cannot write the MM> time when a message is *sent*, I use X-Ray for writing this time in (the MM> "sent" line in my headers). But your ISP's smtp server will do that for you, so why the fuss? ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
Hi Michael. At 3:14 AM on Friday, May 28, 2004 it seems you posted the following to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to X-Ray: why?: A less techie type reason was, that until recently, TB! users could not control their x-mailer header. As a consequence there were some over ambitious or ignorant services that filtered out The Bat! email because somewhere/sometime ago TB! was mentioned as a client that could be easily automated for spamming purposes. Of course, TB! licensing expresses prohibits it's use for spamming but never mind; there are a lot of really dumb administrators out there. X-ray allowed TB! users to change the x-mailer header as well as other functions as others have explained. TB! users can now turn off the x-mailer header which avoids the problem. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11 Beta/8/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
***^\ ~~( __ _"o Was Fri, 28 May 2004, at 00:14:25 -0700, @ @ when Michael L. Wilson wrote: > Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat. I have > downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why? > What does it really do for me? It depends on what you want/need. Just one of the examples I use it for: since The Bat cannot write the time when a message is *sent*, I use X-Ray for writing this time in (the "sent" line in my headers). Generally, it serves for editing (in/out) header part of a message, as Julian already explained. -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
On Friday, May 28, 2004, 8:14:25 AM, Michael L. Wilson wrote: > Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat. I have > downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why? > What does it really do for me? Anyone have any good Kludge filters to > use with it? Why shuffle SMTP and POP servers? Any ideas? There are two reasons you might wish to use X-Ray. One is that is allows you to modify the headers in your email messages - it is a quite sophisticated program in this respect. The other reason is if you are using TB! on a laptop, for example, and may need to send messages through a variety of SMTP servers. In this case you tell TB that the SMTP server is Localhost (X-Ray) and X-Ray can either manually or automatically choose the SMTP server. For example, I used X-Ray to choose between a Work (Exchange), Home (DSL) and Mobile (Dial-up) SMTP server, which it did automatically depending on the IP address the laptop had been allocated. I don't do this now, as my ISP has an option of Authenticated SMTP, so I can send mail through my ISP's SMTP servers whichever network I am connected to. Hope this helps! [ps - your sig delimited is broken. It should be [dash][dash][space] Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
X-Ray: why?
Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat. I have downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why? What does it really do for me? Anyone have any good Kludge filters to use with it? Why shuffle SMTP and POP servers? Any ideas? -- Michael L. Wilson Philospher Teacher Critic "Big Brother is watching" - George Orwell (1984) Using The Bat! version 2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Nod32 anti-virus PopFile anti-Spam Outpost Pro Firewall Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
