Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[David Fifield]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 02:29:19PM -0400, isab...@riseup.net wrote:
> Hello Tor community!
> 
> The Core Tor Team would like to improve our release process by getting
> it more tested so bugs are found earlier, so stable releases can get out
> faster and without any big bugs.
> 
> During Tor's Meeting in Seattle a couple of weeks ago, we discussed this
> topic and decided to organize a QA team (with the help of the community)
> for core tor.

There are some people on the tor-qa who test Tor Browser before release;
maybe some of them will help? Or maybe you want to do core tor QA on
this list?
https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-qa
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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[isabela]

On 10/25/16 5:03 PM, Conor Schaefer wrote:
> Isabela,
> 
> Great idea, count me in. Most interested in testing Ubuntu Trusty, but
> Debian stable and testing also relevant to my interests.
> 
> Regarding the Riseup Pad, could you toss in some links for reading up on
> Chutney? I'd like to reuse this Pad to as a catch-all resource for
> bootstrapping Tor tests.
> 
> Conor

Thanks for the help! I added a link with some good tips on how to get
started with Chutney o/
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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[Conor Schaefer]

Isabela,

Great idea, count me in. Most interested in testing Ubuntu Trusty, but
Debian stable and testing also relevant to my interests.

Regarding the Riseup Pad, could you toss in some links for reading up on
Chutney? I'd like to reuse this Pad to as a catch-all resource for
bootstrapping Tor tests.

Conor


On 10/25/2016 09:10 AM, isab...@riseup.net wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> First, thanks again for offering to help test our 0.2.9.4-alpha release!
>
> This release came out actually last week but I was mostly offline and
> could not send this note to you / sorry about that.
>
> I organized the information related to what to test and how to report
> bugs here:
>
> https://pad.riseup.net/p/V5ysw5cWFIbz
>
> A new thing you will find there is a link to download a nightly build of
> Tor Browser with Tor 0.2.9.4-alpha -- this is actually the easiest way
> to test it if you only have a few minutes.
>
> There are some instructions on how to submit a bug to us as well.
>
> This is the first time we are doing this (call for help testing) sorry
> for the bumps along the way  We will continue to ask for help and
> hopefully get better over time.
>
> If you have some time this week, please do test our alpha release, this
> will help us a lot!
>
> Thanks again for the help o/
>
> Isabela
>
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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[Vinícius Zavam]

2016-10-25 10:08 GMT-03:00, isabela :
> Hi there!

hey. hi!

> First, thanks again for offering to help test our 0.2.9.4-alpha release!
>
> This release came out actually last week but I was mostly offline and
> could not send this note to you / sorry about that.

5 of these machines used to run 0.2.9.4-alpha since Oct 18 14:58; -dev
since Oct 20 17:59; GMT-3.

> I organized the information related to what to test and how to report
> bugs here:
>
> https://pad.riseup.net/p/V5ysw5cWFIbz

nice! thanks for sharing it.

> A new thing you will find there is a link to download a nightly build of
> Tor Browser with Tor 0.2.9.4-alpha -- this is actually the easiest way
> to test it if you only have a few minutes.
>
> There are some instructions on how to submit a bug to us as well.

that will help me a lot.
I was "confused" about the sponsor stuff, but now it is okay though

> This is the first time we are doing this (call for help testing) sorry
> for the bumps along the way :) We will continue to ask for help and
> hopefully get better over time.
>
> If you have some time this week, please do test our alpha release, this
> will help us a lot!
>
> Thanks again for the help o/
>
> Isabela
>

 o/


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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[isabela]

Hi there!

First, thanks again for offering to help test our 0.2.9.4-alpha release!

This release came out actually last week but I was mostly offline and
could not send this note to you / sorry about that.

I organized the information related to what to test and how to report
bugs here:

https://pad.riseup.net/p/V5ysw5cWFIbz

A new thing you will find there is a link to download a nightly build of
Tor Browser with Tor 0.2.9.4-alpha -- this is actually the easiest way
to test it if you only have a few minutes.

There are some instructions on how to submit a bug to us as well.

This is the first time we are doing this (call for help testing) sorry
for the bumps along the way  We will continue to ask for help and
hopefully get better over time.

If you have some time this week, please do test our alpha release, this
will help us a lot!

Thanks again for the help o/

Isabela

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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[Vinícius Zavam]

2016-10-13 22:48 GMT-03:00, teor :
>
>> On 14 Oct 2016, at 08:03, blacklight .  wrote:
>>
>> I would love to help, but can you also volunteer when cannot give ALL the
>> feedback?
>
>> On 14 Oct 2016, at 11:30, ng0  wrote:
>>
>> Do all these task have to apply to make the test valid/useful for you?
>> On one of my test systems - I contribute to Guix - there is no chance of
>> a (system-specific, unofficial) torbrowser build so far (but I/we keep
>> looking into this).
>> So long story short, I can run tests on some amd64_x86 based
>> gnu-systems, but on one of them I need to exclude torbrowser.
>
> We only do source releases for tor alphas and release candidates.
> (Except for Debian, which has experimental alphas built nightly.)
>
> So you must build tor from source in order to run the tests.
>
> All the other tests are optional, but the more you can do, the better!
>
> If you can't build tor from source, you can still help by giving us
> feedback
> on the Tor Browser alpha series, or the Tor Expert Bundles on Windows.
>
> T
>
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quick and dirty feedback; 6 relays running well 0.3.0.0-alpha-dev
(>=git-d1bcba19a9790a37) for quite a while (3 in dual stack). 4freebsd
and 2netbsd machines. 5static binary, 1shared (freebsd 10.3-R-p7,
i386).

every single relay that now is running -dev was running 0.2.9.4-alpha
since its release date (or one/two days after it was available on your
distfiles/archives ftp). I was following the releases available on the
ftp, not ports/pkg/pkgsrc/pkgin/... *EXCEPT* for one machine that runs
freebsd10.3r-p7 (i386); it was working good with 0.2.9.2-alpha only
(again, with shared libs).

sorry for not providing proper feedback or patch on Tor's trac. I plan
to do that ASAP.

PS: http://lists.nycbug.org/pipermail/tor-bsd/2016-October/000467.html
might be interesting for those running Tor (security/tor-devel) with
FreeBSD. ty.


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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[isabela]

On 10/14/16 5:10 AM, pe...@sigaint.org wrote:
> Heya
> 
> I'd like to help too - able to test on debian stable and testing.


:) thanks! Added you to the list and will follow up again when the
release is out o/
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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[isabela]

On 10/13/16 4:53 PM, Matt Traudt wrote:
> Isabela / Core Tor
> 
> I'd love to help. I use 99% Linux and will be able help with everything
> you listed.
> 
> I'm pastly on trac and oftc.
> 
> Matt
> 

Thanks Matt! I will ping you again when the release is out o/
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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[ng0]

teor  writes:

> [ Unknown signature status ]
>
>> On 14 Oct 2016, at 08:03, blacklight .  wrote:
>> 
>> I would love to help, but can you also volunteer when cannot give ALL the 
>> feedback?
>
>> On 14 Oct 2016, at 11:30, ng0  wrote:
>> 
>> Do all these task have to apply to make the test valid/useful for you?
>> On one of my test systems - I contribute to Guix - there is no chance of
>> a (system-specific, unofficial) torbrowser build so far (but I/we keep
>> looking into this).
>> So long story short, I can run tests on some amd64_x86 based
>> gnu-systems, but on one of them I need to exclude torbrowser.
>
> We only do source releases for tor alphas and release candidates.
> (Except for Debian, which has experimental alphas built nightly.)
>
> So you must build tor from source in order to run the tests.

This is doable, I can even hack together a rough guix.scm for tor source
like I did for gnunet in svn r38071.
The other build systems will be Gentoo.

> All the other tests are optional, but the more you can do, the better!
>
> If you can't build tor from source, you can still help by giving us feedback
> on the Tor Browser alpha series, or the Tor Expert Bundles on Windows.
>
> T
>
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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[perky]

Heya

I'd like to help too - able to test on debian stable and testing.

isabela at riseup.net:
>
> What we are asking volunteers:
>
>   * Validate release signature/checksum
>
>   * Does it build with _no_ Warnings?
>
>   * Does "make test" pass?
>
>   * Does "make test-network-all" pass? (you'll need chutney for this -
> chutney does not work on Windows)
>
>   * Does it work as a client? As a relay?  As a hidden service ?
>
>   * Does it work if you drop the binary into (eg) torpbrowser?
>
>
> We are hoping to find enough people that we can test the releases on as
> many OS's as possible.
> Some OS-specific notes:
>
>   * on Linux and BSD, Tor requires some dependencies (read INSTALL).
>
>   * on OS X, you'll need to choose a package manager (HomeBrew,
> MacPorts, Fink), or install dependencies from source,
>
>   * either way, you will need to tell configure where the dependencies
> are located.
>
>   * on Windows, people sometimes have trouble building Tor. Help us
> update our build instructions for Windows!
>
>
> Our goals:
>
>   * We hope to have tor alpha releases tested within a week of it going out
>
>   * We hope to have people testing it on as many OS's as possible
>
>   * Reduce the number of bugs found when we launch a release candidate
> and/or stable release
>
>   * We want operating systems and configurations other than the ones we
> use in development to get tested BEFORE we declare the release stable.
>
>

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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[teor]

> On 14 Oct 2016, at 08:03, blacklight .  wrote:
> 
> I would love to help, but can you also volunteer when cannot give ALL the 
> feedback?

> On 14 Oct 2016, at 11:30, ng0  wrote:
> 
> Do all these task have to apply to make the test valid/useful for you?
> On one of my test systems - I contribute to Guix - there is no chance of
> a (system-specific, unofficial) torbrowser build so far (but I/we keep
> looking into this).
> So long story short, I can run tests on some amd64_x86 based
> gnu-systems, but on one of them I need to exclude torbrowser.

We only do source releases for tor alphas and release candidates.
(Except for Debian, which has experimental alphas built nightly.)

So you must build tor from source in order to run the tests.

All the other tests are optional, but the more you can do, the better!

If you can't build tor from source, you can still help by giving us feedback
on the Tor Browser alpha series, or the Tor Expert Bundles on Windows.

T

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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[ng0]

isab...@riseup.net writes:

> Hello Tor community!
>
> The Core Tor Team would like to improve our release process by getting
> it more tested so bugs are found earlier, so stable releases can get out
> faster and without any big bugs.
>
> During Tor's Meeting in Seattle a couple of weeks ago, we discussed this
> topic and decided to organize a QA team (with the help of the community)
> for core tor.
>
> So we decided to make a call for volunteers to help us with testing our
> 0.2.9 release so we can catch bugs asap. We are planning on freezing our
> alpha release this Monday, October 17th, the test period is from 17-31
> of October. [release calendar:
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/teams/NetworkTeam#Releases
> ]
>

> What we are asking volunteers:
>
>   * Validate release signature/checksum
>
>   * Does it build with _no_ Warnings?
>
>   * Does "make test" pass?
>
>   * Does "make test-network-all" pass? (you'll need chutney for this -
> chutney does not work on Windows)
>
>   * Does it work as a client? As a relay?  As a hidden service ?
>
>   * Does it work if you drop the binary into (eg) torpbrowser?
>

Do all these task have to apply to make the test valid/useful for you?
On one of my test systems - I contribute to Guix - there is no chance of
a (system-specific, unofficial) torbrowser build so far (but I/we keep
looking into this).
So long story short, I can run tests on some amd64_x86 based
gnu-systems, but on one of them I need to exclude torbrowser.

>
> Please let us know if you have any questions about this - and thank you
> in advance.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Isabela / on behalf of core tor
>
> ps: email from Nick on 0.2.9 freeze dates if you miss it
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2016-October/011513.html
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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[blacklight .]

I would love to help, but can you also volunteer when cannot give ALL the
feedback?

On Oct 13, 2016 10:53 PM, "Matt Traudt"  wrote:

> Isabela / Core Tor
>
> I'd love to help. I use 99% Linux and will be able help with everything
> you listed.
>
> I'm pastly on trac and oftc.
>
> Matt
>
> isab...@riseup.net:
> >
> > What we are asking volunteers:
> >
> >   * Validate release signature/checksum
> >
> >   * Does it build with _no_ Warnings?
> >
> >   * Does "make test" pass?
> >
> >   * Does "make test-network-all" pass? (you'll need chutney for this -
> > chutney does not work on Windows)
> >
> >   * Does it work as a client? As a relay?  As a hidden service ?
> >
> >   * Does it work if you drop the binary into (eg) torpbrowser?
> >
> >
> > We are hoping to find enough people that we can test the releases on as
> > many OS's as possible.
> > Some OS-specific notes:
> >
> >   * on Linux and BSD, Tor requires some dependencies (read INSTALL).
> >
> >   * on OS X, you'll need to choose a package manager (HomeBrew,
> > MacPorts, Fink), or install dependencies from source,
> >
> >   * either way, you will need to tell configure where the dependencies
> > are located.
> >
> >   * on Windows, people sometimes have trouble building Tor. Help us
> > update our build instructions for Windows!
> >
> >
> > Our goals:
> >
> >   * We hope to have tor alpha releases tested within a week of it going
> out
> >
> >   * We hope to have people testing it on as many OS's as possible
> >
> >   * Reduce the number of bugs found when we launch a release candidate
> > and/or stable release
> >
> >   * We want operating systems and configurations other than the ones we
> > use in development to get tested BEFORE we declare the release stable.
> >
> >
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Re: [tor-dev] Call for help on testing core tor releases

[Matt Traudt]

Isabela / Core Tor

I'd love to help. I use 99% Linux and will be able help with everything
you listed.

I'm pastly on trac and oftc.

Matt

isab...@riseup.net:
> 
> What we are asking volunteers:
> 
>   * Validate release signature/checksum
> 
>   * Does it build with _no_ Warnings?
> 
>   * Does "make test" pass?
> 
>   * Does "make test-network-all" pass? (you'll need chutney for this -
> chutney does not work on Windows)
> 
>   * Does it work as a client? As a relay?  As a hidden service ?
> 
>   * Does it work if you drop the binary into (eg) torpbrowser?
> 
> 
> We are hoping to find enough people that we can test the releases on as
> many OS's as possible.
> Some OS-specific notes:
> 
>   * on Linux and BSD, Tor requires some dependencies (read INSTALL).
> 
>   * on OS X, you'll need to choose a package manager (HomeBrew,
> MacPorts, Fink), or install dependencies from source,
> 
>   * either way, you will need to tell configure where the dependencies
> are located.
> 
>   * on Windows, people sometimes have trouble building Tor. Help us
> update our build instructions for Windows!
> 
> 
> Our goals:
> 
>   * We hope to have tor alpha releases tested within a week of it going out
> 
>   * We hope to have people testing it on as many OS's as possible
> 
>   * Reduce the number of bugs found when we launch a release candidate
> and/or stable release
> 
>   * We want operating systems and configurations other than the ones we
> use in development to get tested BEFORE we declare the release stable.
> 
> 
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