[tor-relays] FW: Relay Shirt

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Re: [tor-relays] Draft Fallback Directory List

[teor]

> On 13 Dec. 2016, at 08:25, teor  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 13 Dec. 2016, at 08:13, Rejo Zenger  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Tim,
>> 
>> My relay now should be available on both IPv4 and IPv6. But, to be honest, I 
>> don't see how I can verify the correct functioning of IPv6.  Here are the 
>> details:
>> 
>> namerejozenger
>> fingerprint AA0D167E03E298F9A8CD50F448B81FBD7FA80D56
>> ipv4 address94.142.242.84
>> ipv6 address2a02:898:24:84::1
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Rejo Zenger
> 
> Hi Rejo,
> 
> Have you configured an IPv6 ORPort in your torrc?
> 
> ORPort [2a02:898:24:84::1]:9001
> 
> The directory authorities will verify your IPv6 connectivity.
> 
> Or you can use telnet (or nc):
> 
> telnet 2a02:898:24:84::1 9001
> 
> Or you can use a tor client version 0.2.8 or later:
> 
> tor ClientUseIPv4 0 UseMicrodescriptors 0 EntryGuards rejozenger
> 
> And then send some data through that client, or just read the logs
> to make sure it says its guard is up.
> 
> Tim

Hi Rejo,

I see you just changed the ports on your relay.
Please let me know if you are going to keep those ports.
And please let me know if you get IPv6 working.

Relays need to have the same address and ports for 7 days to become
fallback directory mirrors.

This means your relay won't be selected as a fallback directory mirror
when I rebuild the list on the weekend, but might be selected next time
someone rebuilds the list (in 6 to 12 months time).

Tim

>> ++ 12/12/16 21:39 +1100 - teor:
>>> 
 On 12 Dec. 2016, at 19:15, Rejo Zenger  wrote:
 
 Hey!
 
 I do have IPv6 available, but I hadn't taken the time to actually enable 
 it. I will look into it one of the next days and when enabled, I'll let 
 you know about the IPv6 address.
 
 Node: rejozenger, FP: AA0D167E03E298F9A8CD50F448B81FBD7FA80D56
 
 Kind regards,
 Rejo Zenger
>>> 
>>> Thanks, that would be great!
>>> 
>>> T
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Re: [tor-relays] Draft Fallback Directory List

[teor]

> On 13 Dec. 2016, at 08:13, Rejo Zenger  wrote:
> 
> Hey Tim,
> 
> My relay now should be available on both IPv4 and IPv6. But, to be honest, I 
> don't see how I can verify the correct functioning of IPv6.  Here are the 
> details:
> 
> namerejozenger
> fingerprint AA0D167E03E298F9A8CD50F448B81FBD7FA80D56
> ipv4 address94.142.242.84
> ipv6 address2a02:898:24:84::1
> 
> Kind regards,
> Rejo Zenger

Hi Rejo,

Have you configured an IPv6 ORPort in your torrc?

ORPort [2a02:898:24:84::1]:9001

The directory authorities will verify your IPv6 connectivity.

Or you can use telnet (or nc):

telnet 2a02:898:24:84::1 9001

Or you can use a tor client version 0.2.8 or later:

tor ClientUseIPv4 0 UseMicrodescriptors 0 EntryGuards rejozenger

And then send some data through that client, or just read the logs
to make sure it says its guard is up.

Tim

> ++ 12/12/16 21:39 +1100 - teor:
>> 
>>> On 12 Dec. 2016, at 19:15, Rejo Zenger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey!
>>> 
>>> I do have IPv6 available, but I hadn't taken the time to actually enable 
>>> it. I will look into it one of the next days and when enabled, I'll let you 
>>> know about the IPv6 address.
>>> 
>>> Node: rejozenger, FP: AA0D167E03E298F9A8CD50F448B81FBD7FA80D56
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Rejo Zenger
>> 
>> Thanks, that would be great!
>> 
>> T
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
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Re: [tor-relays] Draft Fallback Directory List

[Rejo Zenger]

Hey Tim,

My relay now should be available on both IPv4 and IPv6. But, to be 
honest, I don't see how I can verify the correct functioning of IPv6.  
Here are the details:


namerejozenger
fingerprint AA0D167E03E298F9A8CD50F448B81FBD7FA80D56
ipv4 address94.142.242.84
ipv6 address2a02:898:24:84::1

Kind regards,
Rejo Zenger



++ 12/12/16 21:39 +1100 - teor:



On 12 Dec. 2016, at 19:15, Rejo Zenger  wrote:

Hey!

I do have IPv6 available, but I hadn't taken the time to actually enable it. I 
will look into it one of the next days and when enabled, I'll let you know 
about the IPv6 address.

Node: rejozenger, FP: AA0D167E03E298F9A8CD50F448B81FBD7FA80D56

Kind regards,
Rejo Zenger


Thanks, that would be great!

T

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Re: [tor-relays] Does the "Advertised bandwidth" correlates with the "Consensus Weight"

[teor]

> On 13 Dec. 2016, at 03:28, Toralf Förster  wrote:
> ...
> 
> I do wonder if the measurement of the former is somehow affected by the later 
> ?
> 
> ...
> Toralf

Yes, the bandwidth authorities measure the bandwidth, then calculate
the ratio between the advertised and measured bandwidths. This becomes
the consensus weight (after averaging, and then taking the low-median
of votes).

Clients choose relays based on consensus weight, which then affects the
bandwidth they carry, which affects the observed bandwidth, which is
one of the factors that feeds into the measured bandwidth.

Part of the calculation process for the consensus weight makes sure
that this feedback converges, rather than diverging.

T

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[tor-relays] Does the "Advertised bandwidth" correlates with the "Consensus Weight"

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Re: [tor-relays] Draft Fallback Directory List

[teor]

> On 12 Dec. 2016, at 19:15, Rejo Zenger  wrote:
> 
> Hey!
> 
> I do have IPv6 available, but I hadn't taken the time to actually enable it. 
> I will look into it one of the next days and when enabled, I'll let you know 
> about the IPv6 address.
> 
> Node: rejozenger, FP: AA0D167E03E298F9A8CD50F448B81FBD7FA80D56
> 
> Kind regards,
> Rejo Zenger

Thanks, that would be great!

T

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Re: [tor-relays] All I want for Chrismas is a bloody t-shirt

[Petrusko]

Yeah! Tshirt tshirt tshirt !!!

Christmas time ?? :p


 12/12/2016  02:36, I :
> What about simplifying that to one automated congratulation message
> with the request for the size and address in the answer? 

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Re: [tor-relays] Draft Fallback Directory List

[Rejo Zenger]

Hey!

I do have IPv6 available, but I hadn't taken the time to actually enable 
it. I will look into it one of the next days and when enabled, I'll let 
you know about the IPv6 address.


Node: rejozenger, FP: AA0D167E03E298F9A8CD50F448B81FBD7FA80D56

Kind regards,
Rejo Zenger


++ 12/12/16 08:49 +1100 - teor:



On 12 Dec. 2016, at 05:08, Andrew Deason  wrote:

On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 23:45:42 +1100
teor  wrote:


One or more of your relays have been selected as fallback directory
mirrors[0] for the next tor release. Please keep the relay available on
the same addresses, ports, and identity key (fingerprint) for the next
2 years.


Does ipv6 connectivity matter at all for the purposes of being a
fallback directory mirror? I can see of course it's not required, but
I'm not sure if an ipv6 address would be used at all (as a directory
mirror). That is, if I added a v6 addr to a relay in that list, would
that help anything, or not yet?


It helps clients configured to use dual-stack IPv6:
ClientPreferIPv6ORPort 1

And clients configured to use IPv6 only:
ClientUseIPv4 0
UseMicrodescriptors 0

But as they are manual configs, not many clients use them yet.
We want to make dual-stack easier (even automatic) on clients, but we
need more IPv6 relays to preserve client privacy.


I assume that adding a v6 address does not violate the "keep the same
address/port/key for the next 2 years" requirement. Is that correct?


Yes, but you need to keep *both* addresses for 2 years after you add
IPv6. Let me know, and I'll add the IPv6 address to the fallback list.

T

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