Re: [U2] Hello ?
Well - it looks like I can talk to myself - lots or practice there. Actually what is this u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org : bounces ??? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of u2ug Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Hello ? The list has gone silent for me for the past week - is there anybody out there ? Just yell if you can hear me ... ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Hello ?
I hear you. Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 21:43:08 -0400 From: simpson-u...@gerzio.ca To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Hello ? Well - it looks like I can talk to myself - lots or practice there. Actually what is this u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org : bounces ??? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of u2ug Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Hello ? The list has gone silent for me for the past week - is there anybody out there ? Just yell if you can hear me ... ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Hello ?
I can see you. This may just be that post Spectrum triptophan nap. Charles Barouch u2ug simpson-u...@gerzio.ca wrote: Well - it looks like I can talk to myself - lots or practice there. Actually what is this u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org : bounces ??? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of u2ug Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Hello ? The list has gone silent for me for the past week - is there anybody out there ? Just yell if you can hear me ... ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Hello ?
Thanks Dan - so I guess the list has just gone on hiatus ? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dan Fitzgerald Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:48 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Hello ? I hear you. Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 21:43:08 -0400 From: simpson-u...@gerzio.ca To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Hello ? Well - it looks like I can talk to myself - lots or practice there. Actually what is this u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org : bounces ??? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of u2ug Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Hello ? The list has gone silent for me for the past week - is there anybody out there ? Just yell if you can hear me ... ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Hello ?
Aaaah , Bach. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charles Barouch Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:48 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Hello ? I can see you. This may just be that post Spectrum triptophan nap. Charles Barouch u2ug simpson-u...@gerzio.ca wrote: Well - it looks like I can talk to myself - lots or practice there. Actually what is this u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org : bounces ??? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of u2ug Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Hello ? The list has gone silent for me for the past week - is there anybody out there ? Just yell if you can hear me ... ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Reliability doesn't raise enough issues to keep the list busy
It is the problem with a reliable product there are not enough issues to keep the list busy. If you had one of the competitor products there would be a ton of issues to deal with to keep multiple forums busy. Funny how buggy software can look good, because there are a ton of forums to deal with all the bugs. David Jordan ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Limitations of uvrestore
I have just finished some testing of uvbackup and uvrestore on AIX and Linux to see if there are areas to improve performance. The results were interesting, and somewhat alarming - see http://gdoesu2.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/facts-about-uvbackup-and-uvrestore/ for details. What I am interested in is: a) Do UV platforms other than AIX and Linux have similar issues with uvrestore? b) Does anyone use block sizes beyond 1mb for uvbackup and uvrestore? If so, what size and what impact does it have on backup performance? Thanks Gregor This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Hello ?
LOL! -Original Message- From: u2ug simpson-u...@gerzio.ca Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:51 PM To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Hello ? Aaaah , Bach. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charles Barouch Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:48 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Hello ? I can see you. This may just be that post Spectrum triptophan nap. Charles Barouch u2ug simpson-u...@gerzio.ca wrote: Well - it looks like I can talk to myself - lots or practice there. Actually what is this u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org : bounces ??? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of u2ug Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Hello ? The list has gone silent for me for the past week - is there anybody out there ? Just yell if you can hear me ... ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Limitations of uvrestore
I don't know of anyone who actually relies upon uvbackup/restore for their backup/restore strategy. Other than supposedly support online backups and checking file integrity - I would see it's relatively slow speed as another reason not to utilise it. Other DB vendors tools tend to suffer from similar such drawbacks as well... The only other comment I'd make is that you don't mention of your AIX rmt device block size was set to automatic or not. This may potentially be the cause of some of your issues? Regards, David -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gregor Scott Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:13 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Limitations of uvrestore I have just finished some testing of uvbackup and uvrestore on AIX and Linux to see if there are areas to improve performance. The results were interesting, and somewhat alarming - see http://gdoesu2.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/facts-about-uvbackup-and-uvrestore/ for details. What I am interested in is: a) Do UV platforms other than AIX and Linux have similar issues with uvrestore? b) Does anyone use block sizes beyond 1mb for uvbackup and uvrestore? If so, what size and what impact does it have on backup performance? Thanks Gregor ** IMPORTANT MESSAGE * This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au. If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, please reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line. ** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Limitations of uvrestore
...Although, as the OP seems to be using it for transfer from AIX to Linux, it's almost the simplest way to have it do all the fnuxi-ing for you. Another gotcha to look out for with AIX-Linux (bigendian-littleendian) transfers using uvbackup is that it doesn't properly restore files with triggers. You either have to drop them before you do the backup or meddle with the file header after restore. Cheers. Stuart -Original Message- I don't know of anyone who actually relies upon uvbackup/restore for their backup/restore strategy. Other than supposedly support online backups and checking file integrity - I would see it's relatively slow speed as another reason not to utilise it. Other DB vendors tools tend to suffer from similar such drawbacks as well... The only other comment I'd make is that you don't mention of your AIX rmt device block size was set to automatic or not. This may potentially be the cause of some of your issues? Regards, David -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gregor Scott Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:13 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Limitations of uvrestore I have just finished some testing of uvbackup and uvrestore on AIX and Linux to see if there are areas to improve performance. The results were interesting, and somewhat alarming - see http://gdoesu2.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/facts-about-uvbackup-and-uvrestore/ for details. What I am interested in is: a) Do UV platforms other than AIX and Linux have similar issues with uvrestore? b) Does anyone use block sizes beyond 1mb for uvbackup and uvrestore? If so, what size and what impact does it have on backup performance? Thanks Gregor ** IMPORTANT MESSAGE * This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au. If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, please reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line. ** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Reliability doesn't raise enough issues to keep the list busy
From: David Jordan It is the problem with a reliable product there are not enough issues to keep the list busy. If you had one of the competitor products there would be a ton of issues to deal with to keep multiple forums busy. Funny how buggy software can look good, because there are a ton of forums to deal with all the bugs. I feel a need to stick a pin that balloon of hot air, even if I happen to agree with it in large part, and present an equal but opposite view. :) Paraphrase: It is the problem with a dying product there are not enough creative thoughts to keep the list busy. If you had one of the competitor products there would be a ton of ideas to discuss to keep multiple forums busy. Funny how great software can look bad, because there are so few people to discuss all the wonderful ways to use it. Just trying to keep things real. T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] Marking New Index as Built
Thinking back to Prime INFORMATION, that was the default behaviour. You could have deferred updates pending and still have new transactions update the indexes. But, then, in Prime INFORMATION BUILD.INDEX and UPDATE.INDEX were two separate commands, unlike the UniVerse implementation. There's probably something you could tweak in the INDEX.MAP file to get this to work. Unfortunately I am in an airport lounge (again!) and not carrying my UniVerse Internals training class notes. = ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
