Re: [ubuntu-web] Girl gets Ubuntu on a Dell by mistake, absolutely hates it...
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Jonathan Davies j...@ubuntu.com wrote: 2009/1/15 Brett Alton brett.jr.al...@gmail.com: Maybe post some information on the Ubuntu website how OpenOffice.org can save/edit/read Microsoft Office documents? What about a wizard for installing the Internet (DSL, dial-up, etc.)? As for the educational section of Ubuntu, what about schools giving out more information to their students about alternative operating systems and programs such as Ubuntu, Mac, OpenOffice.org, etc. with Canonical actually provides that information to the IT departments? Maybe an education.ubuntu.com section is in order, where Canonical can explain to high school and college students why Ubuntu is so fantastic for their campus life (security, reliability, lack of viruses, alternate programs, etc.) and how they can use it to fit right in with their Windows counterparts. Well, we already have an education page, which can be found at: http://www.ubuntu.com/education . -- Jonathan That's very well done, but can we get a link on the front page? -- Brett Alton http://brettalton.com brett.jr.al...@gmail.com -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Firefox 3.0 needs to show 'Icons and Text' by default in the toolbar
Since Dapper, Ubuntu has removed the text from Firefox's toolbar to save space on 800x600 resolution monitors (or so I once read). I think to be consistent with the rest of GNOME (especially with System Preferences Appearance Interface Toolbar Button Labels), Firefox should show 'Text and Icons' in its toolbar by default. Why? I believe it is less confusing to new uses who do not understand what the icons mean fully. They need text re-enforcement to remind them that the blue, 270 degree icon means refresh. Not everyone knows this off the bat or remembers it every day. Plus, according to System Preferences Appearance Interface Toolbar Button Labels, all programs should have text below the icons. If saving space in Firefox is an absolute must, then why not get rid of the Bookmarks Toolbar? I think you need higher intelligence to use the Bookmarks Toolbar than to use the forward and back button, the reload button and the home button and I do not believe it is safe to assume. Let the user find the Bookmarks Toolbar if they want to use it. Most people I know that use bookmarks often know how to use an internet browser enough to be able to re-enable the Bookmarks Toolbar. Lastly, with Firefox 3.0's new features, you can access bookmarks by searching them in the Address Bar and save them using the new star button. The awesome bar, I think is what they call it. This means that bookmarks get double the attention and the buttons that actually run Firefox gets less. Sorry, I know this is a mixture of arguments (intelligence of the user, compliance with GNOME), but this is just coming from a computer technician who works with teachers and school staff every day. -- Brett Alton http://brettalton.com brett.jr.al...@gmail.com -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Call for testing empathy
I would personally be worried switching from one program to the next all the time. A little while back Gaim was renamed to Pidgin, which I'm sure confused a couple users. Although they were the exact same program, it would have taken a couple minutes (or even a half an hour on the Internet for some users) to figure this out. Now we'll be switching to Empathy, which although it has the purple backend, has a different front-end than Pidgin. I think it is great that an instant messaging program is included in Gnome, but I'd be worried about such a change when the program is still in beta (or gamma) stage. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Danny Piccirillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Empathy is perfectly stable at this point, but doesn't have quite as many features as pidgin (file transfers and meta-contacts although file transfers should be ready really soon). It makes up for it with other things though. Voice and video, it does support all the protocols pidgin does, better integration, and the missing features are not far away. I've been using it exclusively for the past couple months and i don't think i could switch back. I think including this in Ubuntu now will lead to a better Ubuntu sooner (for those that are worried it isn't quite ready yet). I mean, Empathy works great as a multi-protocol char client (in my opinion) and i don't think any more users will be put off by it than by pidgin. People who like pidgin better can still easily install it. Sure, they can do that with Empathy, but including it is moving towards a better desktop faster. It will get integrated at some point, and i think it would be better in the long term to do that now (i also think it would be better in the short term but hopefully those that don't think so can at least agree on this). On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Luke L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my other thought: I personally don't have Intrepid to test this software out. Hardy doesn't have a functioning version (without going into PPA and manual setup, which is not what most people will do). Jumping straight into having it replace Pidgin might be hasty. Consider getting a stable program in the OS for a release before making it default. I am admittedly ignorant as to how stable Empathy and its extensions are. Since several others and myself have never /heard/ of it before, I assume it's a relatively new project. -- Luke L. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- Brett Alton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you really need to print this email? Help preserve our environment! -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
