Re: No tools on Tools Palette (was Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1)

2015-03-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Right. Exactly. :-)

Bob S


On Mar 12, 2015, at 20:12 , James Hale 
mailto:ja...@thehales.id.au>> wrote:

As for being talked about a lot, that's one downside with only getting the 
digest of the list. By the time you get it and reply there could be oodles of 
other replies you have yet to see as you have to wait for the next digest.

James

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-14 Thread Richmond

Inspector?

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23615

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-13 Thread Richmond

On 13/03/15 03:27, Mark Wieder wrote:

Richmond-

Thursday, March 12, 2015, 11:32:49 AM, you wrote:


. . . or, put another way: I'm going to have to spend all of next
weekend reinstalling my
Linux box with a 64 bit version and really wonder whether it is justified.

Just do it. You'll thank yourself later.
The 64-bit version of LC on linux is actually faster, for one thing.
Do it in a vm if you don't want to resintall.



The main "problem" is that my rig is highly customised and having to
reinstall everything all over again just the way I like things is going to
take a very long time indeed.

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-13 Thread Jim Lambert
Exciting webinar.

Trying to draw the differences between widgets, extensions, externals.

Extensions include:
Externals
ex-commands
ex-functions
Plug-ins
Widgets
Libraries

With widgets eventually replacing externals.

Is that about right?

Jim Lambert

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Re: No tools on Tools Palette (was Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1)

2015-03-12 Thread James Hale
Colin wrote:
> It has been talked about a lot here. Just quit LiveCode and reopen it.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. Just forcing the redraw (but adding/subtracting the 
paint tools) fixes it, no restart required.

As for being talked about a lot, that's one downside with only getting the 
digest of the list. By the time you get it and reply there could be oodles of 
other replies you have yet to see as you have to wait for the next digest.

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Re: No tools on Tools Palette (was Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1)

2015-03-12 Thread Colin Holgate
It has been talked about a lot here. Just quit LiveCode and reopen it.


> On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:21 PM, James Hale  wrote:
> 
> I was just going through the bug database to see if this had been reported 
> when I decided to uncheck the paint tools from the Tools menu. The Tools 
> palette redrew and no included most of the expected items. Reselecting the 
> show paint tools did just that.
> Perhaps it just needs a kick to get it to redraw itself after it has been 
> populated with items?
> 
> James
> 
> BTW the data grid control is not available nor are some of the widgets the 
> extension manager thinks are there!
> 
> 
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No tools on Tools Palette (was Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1)

2015-03-12 Thread James Hale
I was just going through the bug database to see if this had been reported when 
I decided to uncheck the paint tools from the Tools menu. The Tools palette 
redrew and no included most of the expected items. Reselecting the show paint 
tools did just that.
Perhaps it just needs a kick to get it to redraw itself after it has been 
populated with items?

James

BTW the data grid control is not available nor are some of the widgets the 
extension manager thinks are there!



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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond-

Thursday, March 12, 2015, 11:32:49 AM, you wrote:

> . . . or, put another way: I'm going to have to spend all of next
> weekend reinstalling my
> Linux box with a 64 bit version and really wonder whether it is justified.

Just do it. You'll thank yourself later.
The 64-bit version of LC on linux is actually faster, for one thing.
Do it in a vm if you don't want to resintall.

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Mike Kerner
All this activity, and all this excitement, for one wee little new version,
lol

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 8:30 PM, zryip theSlug 
wrote:

> For DGH users,
>
> Matthias reported me DGH is crashing LiveCode 8.0.0.
>
> After a quick investigation of the crash report, it seems LC is
> failing in rendering the graphics of the DGH stack.
>
> Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
> 0   ???   0xa08d7cc9 -[PAStackshot
> initWithGlobalTrace].tracebuf + 4235425
> 1   com.runrev.livecode   0x0045ff27
> SkARGB32_Shader_Blitter::blitAntiH(int, int, unsigned char const*,
> short const*) + 695
> 2   com.runrev.livecode   0x004ba9e9 SuperBlitter::~SuperBlitter()
> + 105
> 3   com.runrev.livecode   0x004ba575
> SkScan::AntiFillPath(SkPath const&, SkRegion const&, SkBlitter*, bool)
> + 1237
> 4   com.runrev.livecode   0x004ba7b3
> SkScan::AntiFillPath(SkPath const&, SkRasterClip const&, SkBlitter*) +
> 67
> 5   com.runrev.livecode   0x00478cb1 SkDraw::drawPath(SkPath
> const&, SkPaint const&, SkMatrix const*, bool, bool) const + 1137
> 6   com.runrev.livecode   0x004cf8d0
> SkBitmapDevice::drawPath(SkDraw const&, SkPath const&, SkPaint const&,
> SkMatrix const*, bool) + 64
> 7   com.runrev.livecode   0x0046bc56 SkCanvas::drawPath(SkPath
> const&, SkPaint const&) + 790
> 8   com.runrev.livecode   0x0039a1f9 MCGContextFill(__MCGContext*)
> + 89
> 9   com.runrev.livecode   0x0021c069
> MCGraphicsContext::fillarc(MCRectangle const&, unsigned short,
> unsigned short, bool) + 249
> 10  com.runrev.livecode   0x000b2f92
> MCGraphic::draw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&, bool, bool) + 898
> 11  com.runrev.livecode   0x0006a8c4
> MCControl::redraw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 196
> 12  com.runrev.livecode   0x000ba493 MCGroup::draw(MCContext*,
> MCRectangle const&, bool, bool) + 787
> 13  com.runrev.livecode   0x0006a8c4
> MCControl::redraw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 196
> 14  com.runrev.livecode   0x000ba493 MCGroup::draw(MCContext*,
> MCRectangle const&, bool, bool) + 787
> 15  com.runrev.livecode   0x0006a8c4
> MCControl::redraw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 196
> 16  com.runrev.livecode   0x00029628 MCCard::draw(MCContext*,
> MCRectangle const&, bool) + 184
> 17  com.runrev.livecode   0x0015d5cc
> MCStack::render(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 140
> 18  com.runrev.livecode   0x0015ca59
> MCStack::render(__MCGContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 313
> 19  com.runrev.livecode   0x00220e51
> MCStack::view_render(__MCGContext*, MCRectangle) + 577
> 20  com.runrev.livecode   0x0015cd97
> MCStack::view_surface_redrawwindow(MCStackSurface*, __MCGRegion*) +
> 807
> 21  com.runrev.livecode   0x0024ae28
> MCDispatch::wredraw(MCPlatformWindow*, MCPlatformSurface*,
> __MCGRegion*) + 136
> 22  com.runrev.livecode   0x0024b5c6
> MCPlatformHandleWindowRedraw(MCPlatformWindow*, MCPlatformSurface*,
> __MCGRegion*) + 102
>
> I deleted the 3 buttons graphics of the DGH palette and the plugin is
> now loading properly.
>
> If you are a DGH user and want to use the LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1, remove
> DGH from your livecode plugins folder.
>
> Will investigate and report the issue in the qcc as soon as I have
> more infos for describing the reason of the crash.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
>  wrote:
> > Seems to take two launches of the executable to get the palette to load
> > properly.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Richmond 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/03/15 21:04, Fraser Gordon wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub
>  at the moment?
> 
> >>> Just for you Richmond:
> >>>
> >>> http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_
> >>> 0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86
> >>>
> >>> The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a blank window) and there may be
> >>> one or two other oddities, but it should otherwise work.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Fraser
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Interestingly enough; the first time I started this up the revTools
> stack
> >> loaded with
> >> just the 2 arrows at the top.
> >>
> >> Now I started it again and the whole palette loaded with all those new
> >> things at the top.
> >>
> >> Richmond.
> >>
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread zryip theSlug
For DGH users,

Matthias reported me DGH is crashing LiveCode 8.0.0.

After a quick investigation of the crash report, it seems LC is
failing in rendering the graphics of the DGH stack.

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   ???   0xa08d7cc9 -[PAStackshot
initWithGlobalTrace].tracebuf + 4235425
1   com.runrev.livecode   0x0045ff27
SkARGB32_Shader_Blitter::blitAntiH(int, int, unsigned char const*,
short const*) + 695
2   com.runrev.livecode   0x004ba9e9 SuperBlitter::~SuperBlitter() + 105
3   com.runrev.livecode   0x004ba575
SkScan::AntiFillPath(SkPath const&, SkRegion const&, SkBlitter*, bool)
+ 1237
4   com.runrev.livecode   0x004ba7b3
SkScan::AntiFillPath(SkPath const&, SkRasterClip const&, SkBlitter*) +
67
5   com.runrev.livecode   0x00478cb1 SkDraw::drawPath(SkPath
const&, SkPaint const&, SkMatrix const*, bool, bool) const + 1137
6   com.runrev.livecode   0x004cf8d0
SkBitmapDevice::drawPath(SkDraw const&, SkPath const&, SkPaint const&,
SkMatrix const*, bool) + 64
7   com.runrev.livecode   0x0046bc56 SkCanvas::drawPath(SkPath
const&, SkPaint const&) + 790
8   com.runrev.livecode   0x0039a1f9 MCGContextFill(__MCGContext*) + 89
9   com.runrev.livecode   0x0021c069
MCGraphicsContext::fillarc(MCRectangle const&, unsigned short,
unsigned short, bool) + 249
10  com.runrev.livecode   0x000b2f92
MCGraphic::draw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&, bool, bool) + 898
11  com.runrev.livecode   0x0006a8c4
MCControl::redraw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 196
12  com.runrev.livecode   0x000ba493 MCGroup::draw(MCContext*,
MCRectangle const&, bool, bool) + 787
13  com.runrev.livecode   0x0006a8c4
MCControl::redraw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 196
14  com.runrev.livecode   0x000ba493 MCGroup::draw(MCContext*,
MCRectangle const&, bool, bool) + 787
15  com.runrev.livecode   0x0006a8c4
MCControl::redraw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 196
16  com.runrev.livecode   0x00029628 MCCard::draw(MCContext*,
MCRectangle const&, bool) + 184
17  com.runrev.livecode   0x0015d5cc
MCStack::render(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 140
18  com.runrev.livecode   0x0015ca59
MCStack::render(__MCGContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 313
19  com.runrev.livecode   0x00220e51
MCStack::view_render(__MCGContext*, MCRectangle) + 577
20  com.runrev.livecode   0x0015cd97
MCStack::view_surface_redrawwindow(MCStackSurface*, __MCGRegion*) +
807
21  com.runrev.livecode   0x0024ae28
MCDispatch::wredraw(MCPlatformWindow*, MCPlatformSurface*,
__MCGRegion*) + 136
22  com.runrev.livecode   0x0024b5c6
MCPlatformHandleWindowRedraw(MCPlatformWindow*, MCPlatformSurface*,
__MCGRegion*) + 102

I deleted the 3 buttons graphics of the DGH palette and the plugin is
now loading properly.

If you are a DGH user and want to use the LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1, remove
DGH from your livecode plugins folder.

Will investigate and report the issue in the qcc as soon as I have
more infos for describing the reason of the crash.


Best Regards,

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
 wrote:
> Seems to take two launches of the executable to get the palette to load
> properly.
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Richmond 
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/03/15 21:04, Fraser Gordon wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub
 at the moment?

>>> Just for you Richmond:
>>>
>>> http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_
>>> 0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86
>>>
>>> The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a blank window) and there may be
>>> one or two other oddities, but it should otherwise work.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Fraser
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Interestingly enough; the first time I started this up the revTools stack
>> loaded with
>> just the 2 arrows at the top.
>>
>> Now I started it again and the whole palette loaded with all those new
>> things at the top.
>>
>> Richmond.
>>
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
Seems to take two launches of the executable to get the palette to load
properly.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Richmond 
wrote:

> On 12/03/15 21:04, Fraser Gordon wrote:
>
>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond  wrote:
>>
>>  Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub
>>> at the moment?
>>>
>> Just for you Richmond:
>>
>> http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_
>> 0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86
>>
>> The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a blank window) and there may be
>> one or two other oddities, but it should otherwise work.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Fraser
>>
>>
>>
> Interestingly enough; the first time I started this up the revTools stack
> loaded with
> just the 2 arrows at the top.
>
> Now I started it again and the whole palette loaded with all those new
> things at the top.
>
> Richmond.
>
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Richmond

On 12/03/15 21:04, Fraser Gordon wrote:

On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond  wrote:


Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub at the 
moment?

Just for you Richmond:

http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86

The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a blank window) and there may be one or 
two other oddities, but it should otherwise work.

Regards,
Fraser




Interestingly enough; the first time I started this up the revTools 
stack loaded with

just the 2 arrows at the top.

Now I started it again and the whole palette loaded with all those new 
things at the top.


Richmond.

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Colin Holgate
I expect a lot of people are downloading it. I downloaded it twice early, and 
it didn’t take too long.


> On Mar 12, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Andrew Kluthe  wrote:
> 
> >Download crawling along for anyone else?

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Restarted it a few times and now its going right. A couple of times there
it said it was going to take 6 hours to download.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Andrew Kluthe  wrote:

> Download crawling along for anyone else?
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Ludovic THEBAULT <
> ludovic.theba...@laposte.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> > Le 12 mars 2015 à 19:40, Fraser Gordon  a
>> écrit :
>> >
>> > Hi Matthias,
>> >
>> > On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:34, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D <
>> matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes
>> immediately after showing the LC ide.
>> >>
>> >> Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences?
>> >>
>> >> Matthias
>> >
>> > What platform are you running on?
>> >
>> > Does it crash every time or just the first time you run it?
>>
>>
>> Same thing (Yosemite) but work when i rename the plug-in folder (where
>> there are mobgui and data grid helper)
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Download crawling along for anyone else?

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Ludovic THEBAULT <
ludovic.theba...@laposte.net> wrote:

>
> > Le 12 mars 2015 à 19:40, Fraser Gordon  a
> écrit :
> >
> > Hi Matthias,
> >
> > On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:34, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D <
> matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:
> >
> >> Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes
> immediately after showing the LC ide.
> >>
> >> Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences?
> >>
> >> Matthias
> >
> > What platform are you running on?
> >
> > Does it crash every time or just the first time you run it?
>
>
> Same thing (Yosemite) but work when i rename the plug-in folder (where
> there are mobgui and data grid helper)
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Ludovic THEBAULT

> Le 12 mars 2015 à 19:40, Fraser Gordon  a écrit :
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:34, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes 
>> immediately after showing the LC ide.
>> 
>> Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences?
>> 
>> Matthias
> 
> What platform are you running on? 
> 
> Does it crash every time or just the first time you run it?


Same thing (Yosemite) but work when i rename the plug-in folder (where there 
are mobgui and data grid helper)
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Richmond

The one thing that really catches my eye is the
"extension manager":

Menubar/Tools/Extension Manager

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Richmond

On 12/03/15 21:04, Fraser Gordon wrote:

On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond  wrote:


Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub at the 
moment?

Just for you Richmond:

http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86

The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a blank window) and there may be one or 
two other oddities, but it should otherwise work.

Regards,
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon

On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond  wrote:

> Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub at the 
> moment?

Just for you Richmond:

http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86

The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a blank window) and there may be one or 
two other oddities, but it should otherwise work.

Regards,
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon

On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:53, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D 
 wrote:

> Fraser,
> 
> It was my „My livecode“ folder, i think the plugins. I renamed it and i was 
> able to successfully start LC 8.

Thanks for tracking that down. We’ll investigate why that might be happening. 
Could you either submit a bugzilla report or let me know off-list what plugins 
you have installed so we can reproduce?

> 
> But, as i need my plugins for my older LC versions, is there a way to tell LC 
> to use its on „my livecode“ folder?
> Or do i really have to switch the prefs every time i switch the LC versions.

LiveCode 7 and above use a separate preferences file to 6.x and below - if you 
customise the location of your folder in 7 or above, it shouldn’t affect 
previous versions. Versions 7 and 8 use the same preferences file, though. The 
setting is in Preferences -> Files & Memory and is the “User Extensions” folder 
at the bottom of the pane.

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
Fraser,

It was my „My livecode“ folder, i think the plugins. I renamed it and i was 
able to successfully start LC 8.

But, as i need my plugins for my older LC versions, is there a way to tell LC 
to use its on „my livecode“ folder?
Or do i really have to switch the prefs every time i switch the LC versions.

Regards,
Matthias

> Am 12.03.2015 um 19:40 schrieb Fraser Gordon :
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:34, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes 
>> immediately after showing the LC ide.
>> 
>> Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences?
>> 
>> Matthias
> 
> What platform are you running on? 
> 
> Does it crash every time or just the first time you run it?
> 
> Regards,
> Fraser
> 
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon

On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond  wrote:

> Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub at the 
> moment?

If you’re able to build LiveCode for Linux normally, it should work. You might 
have to do an initial step of

make bootstrap

before “make all” to ensure that the compiler for LC Builder gets created - 
some of the engine is now implemented in LCB.

Other than the revbrowser component, the 32-bit Linux build works. However, we 
didn’t want to ship an incomplete installer where some of the major new IDE 
features don’t work (the new dictionary and the extension store pane of the 
extension manager rely on revbrowser).

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Kevin Miller
They will still be available after a short delay - we're doing some work on the 
website. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Mar 2015, at 14:28, Mark Laffoon  wrote:
> 
> All of the "old" plugins (chart maker, scrapbook, etc.) are no longer
> available on the Livecode store... Is this feature discontinued?
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Colin Holgate 
> wrote:
> 
>> i emailed Ben a screenshot of how the tool palette looks. It only has the
>> two run mode arrows. No widgets, no classic controls.
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Fraser Gordon 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond  wrote:
 
 Sorry, but where is the download location?
>>> 
>>> My bad.
>>> 
>>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
>>> 
>>> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Fraser
>>> 
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Richmond
Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub 
at the moment?


Richmond.

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Colin Holgate
Good news, a fresh download and install fixed the tool palette issue.

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
Hi Matthias,

On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:34, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D 
 wrote:

> Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes 
> immediately after showing the LC ide.
> 
> Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences?
> 
> Matthias

What platform are you running on? 

Does it crash every time or just the first time you run it?

Regards,
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon

On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:30, Chris Sheffield  wrote:

> Looks like there’s no commercial edition available. Is this community-only 
> for now?

For the initial DP releases, yes. There are a few more things to get sorted out 
with regards to commercial widgets before providing commercial builds.

As Richmond has noticed, there’s also not a 32-bit Linux build currently - we 
have to custom-build the Chromium Embedded Framework so that revbrowser will 
work on Linux (as it is used for our new user guide and dictionary) and this is 
not a small undertaking. 32-bit will be returning, just not for this first DP.

Which reminds me - revbrowser is now available on Linux (when used in CEF mode).

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Colin Holgate
The download page is updated now. I’m redownloading in case the tool palette 
issue was fixed in a later DMG.


> On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Roger Eller  wrote:
> 
> I meant to change the link to x64 after I figured out the x86 (32-bit) one
> was missing.  In the excitement of the moment, I clicked send.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D <
> matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 12.03.2015 um 19:30 schrieb Roger Eller >> :
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Windows.exe
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Mac.dmg
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x86
>>> 
>>> 
>> only the 64bit version is available at the moment
>> 
>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x64
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Richmond 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote:
 
> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond 
>> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, but where is the download location?
>> 
> My bad.
> 
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> 
> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it.
> 
> Regards,
> Fraser
> 
> 
> 
> Unfortunately it isn't listed there.
 
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Roger Eller
I meant to change the link to x64 after I figured out the x86 (32-bit) one
was missing.  In the excitement of the moment, I clicked send.



On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D <
matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:

>
>
> > Am 12.03.2015 um 19:30 schrieb Roger Eller  >:
> >
> >
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Windows.exe
> >
> >
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Mac.dmg
> >
> >
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x86
> >
> >
> only the 64bit version is available at the moment
>
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x64
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Richmond 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, but where is the download location?
> 
> >>> My bad.
> >>>
> >>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> >>>
> >>> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Fraser
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately it isn't listed there.
> >>
> >> Richmond.
> >>
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Richmond

On 12/03/15 20:33, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote:



Am 12.03.2015 um 19:30 schrieb Roger Eller :

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Windows.exe

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Mac.dmg

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x86



only the 64bit version is available at the moment
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x64




Let's hope the "at the moment" does not mean there will be NO 32 bit 
version.


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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes immediately 
after showing the LC ide.

Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences?

Matthias


> Am 12.03.2015 um 19:27 schrieb Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D 
> :
> 
> Auto updater in LC commercial Mac shows here an available download, but 
> trying to download tells me, that an error occurred.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 12.03.2015 um 19:22 schrieb Fraser Gordon :
>> 
>> 
>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond  wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry, but where is the download location?
>> 
>> My bad.
>> 
>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
>> 
>> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Fraser
>> 
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Richmond

On 12/03/15 20:30, Roger Eller wrote:

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Windows.exe

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Mac.dmg

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x86





There is no "x86" Linux version, only a 64 bit version . . . g.

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D


> Am 12.03.2015 um 19:30 schrieb Roger Eller :
> 
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Windows.exe
> 
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Mac.dmg
> 
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x86
> 
> 
only the 64bit version is available at the moment
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x64

> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Richmond 
> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry, but where is the download location?
 
>>> My bad.
>>> 
>>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
>>> 
>>> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Fraser
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately it isn't listed there.
>> 
>> Richmond.
>> 
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Richmond

Interested to know why there is no longer a 32 bit version for
Linux . . .

. . . or, put another way: I'm going to have to spend all of next 
weekend reinstalling my

Linux box with a 64 bit version and really wonder whether it is justified.

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon

On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:23, Richmond  wrote:

> On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote:
>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond  wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry, but where is the download location?
>> My bad.
>> 
>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
>> 
>> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Fraser
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Unfortunately it isn't listed there.

Looks like a database update didn’t go through. Should be appearing now. 
Hopefully…

Fraser


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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Chris Sheffield
Looks like there’s no commercial edition available. Is this community-only for 
now?

> On Mar 12, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Fraser Gordon  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear list members,
> 
> *** Warning: this is an alpha release ***
> 
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 1. This release 
> brings a number of new features to the LiveCode platform:
> 
> - A new language (LiveCode Builder) for extending LiveCode with new widgets 
> and engine-level commands and functions
> - IDE improvements, with a re-written property inspector and project browser 
> and a new dictionary
> - An “extension builder” IDE plugin for testing and packaging widgets and 
> libraries
> - The LiveCode Extension Store, for sharing community extensions
> 
> This is a developer preview release and should be used with caution. As 
> always, please backup your stacks.
> 
> Known issues with 8.0 DP 1:
> 
> - The new property inspector lacks some properties present in the old 
> property inspector
> - The extension store pane of the extensions manager does not always load
> - The supplied widgets are examples and lack features and general robustness
> - The extension builder plugin “Test” feature fails if the widget being 
> tested is already installed - uninstalling the widget and restarting the IDE 
> should help
> - Widget icons do not appear in Android and iOS standalones as the 
> appropriate resources are not included in the standalone
> - All installed widgets are built into any standalones produced
> 
> LiveCode 8 is in an early stage of development so we’d love to hear any 
> feedback you have on it. There are a number of features that we’d like to 
> implement but aren’t ready yet  and the existing features are subject to 
> change during development - we can’t guarantee that extensions written in DP1 
> will continue to work in later versions.
> 
> Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at 
> http://quality.livecode.com/ 
> 
> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at 
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
> 
> 
> Regards,
> The LiveCode Team
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon

On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:25, Colin Holgate  wrote:

> i emailed Ben a screenshot of how the tool palette looks. It only has the two 
> run mode arrows. No widgets, no classic controls.
> 

Hi Colin,

We’ve noticed that issue a couple of times but haven’t been able to track down 
the cause yet. It only seems to happen (for us, at least) the first time the 
IDE is launched. Restarting it makes the classic controls and new widgets 
re-appear. If not, let us know.

Regards,
Fraser


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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Richmond

Aha! 8 has just appeared.

Thank you very much.

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Roger Eller
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Windows.exe

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Mac.dmg

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x86




On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Richmond 
wrote:

> On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote:
>
>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond  wrote:
>>
>>  Sorry, but where is the download location?
>>>
>> My bad.
>>
>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
>>
>> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Fraser
>>
>>
>>
>>  Unfortunately it isn't listed there.
>
> Richmond.
>
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Mark Laffoon
All of the "old" plugins (chart maker, scrapbook, etc.) are no longer
available on the Livecode store... Is this feature discontinued?

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Colin Holgate 
wrote:

> i emailed Ben a screenshot of how the tool palette looks. It only has the
> two run mode arrows. No widgets, no classic controls.
>
>
> > On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Fraser Gordon 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond  wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry, but where is the download location?
> >
> > My bad.
> >
> > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> >
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Colin Holgate
i emailed Ben a screenshot of how the tool palette looks. It only has the two 
run mode arrows. No widgets, no classic controls.


> On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Fraser Gordon  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond  wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, but where is the download location?
> 
> My bad.
> 
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> 
> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it.
> 
> Regards,
> Fraser
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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Richmond

On 12/03/15 20:25, Colin Holgate wrote:

i emailed Ben a screenshot of how the tool palette looks. It only has the two 
run mode arrows. No widgets, no classic controls.


Jolly-Dee; but where does one get hold of the thing?

Richmond.





On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Fraser Gordon  wrote:


On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond  wrote:


Sorry, but where is the download location?

My bad.

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it.

Regards,
Fraser


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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Richmond

On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote:

On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond  wrote:


Sorry, but where is the download location?

My bad.

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it.

Regards,
Fraser




Unfortunately it isn't listed there.

Richmond.

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon

On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond  wrote:

> Sorry, but where is the download location?

My bad.

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it.

Regards,
Fraser


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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Richmond

Sorry, but where is the download location?

Richmond.

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Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Richmond

On 12/03/15 20:16, Fraser Gordon wrote:

Dear list members,

*** Warning: this is an alpha release ***

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 1. This release 
brings a number of new features to the LiveCode platform:

- A new language (LiveCode Builder) for extending LiveCode with new widgets and 
engine-level commands and functions
- IDE improvements, with a re-written property inspector and project browser 
and a new dictionary
- An “extension builder” IDE plugin for testing and packaging widgets and 
libraries
- The LiveCode Extension Store, for sharing community extensions

This is a developer preview release and should be used with caution. As always, 
please backup your stacks.

Known issues with 8.0 DP 1:

- The new property inspector lacks some properties present in the old property 
inspector
- The extension store pane of the extensions manager does not always load
- The supplied widgets are examples and lack features and general robustness
- The extension builder plugin “Test” feature fails if the widget being tested 
is already installed - uninstalling the widget and restarting the IDE should 
help
- Widget icons do not appear in Android and iOS standalones as the appropriate 
resources are not included in the standalone
- All installed widgets are built into any standalones produced

LiveCode 8 is in an early stage of development so we’d love to hear any 
feedback you have on it. There are a number of features that we’d like to 
implement but aren’t ready yet  and the existing features are subject to change 
during development - we can’t guarantee that extensions written in DP1 will 
continue to work in later versions.

Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at 
http://quality.livecode.com/

We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at 
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93




Oo, sexy!

My digestive juices are flowing. Congratulations.

Richmond.

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Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear list members,

*** Warning: this is an alpha release ***

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 1. This release 
brings a number of new features to the LiveCode platform:

- A new language (LiveCode Builder) for extending LiveCode with new widgets and 
engine-level commands and functions
- IDE improvements, with a re-written property inspector and project browser 
and a new dictionary
- An “extension builder” IDE plugin for testing and packaging widgets and 
libraries
- The LiveCode Extension Store, for sharing community extensions

This is a developer preview release and should be used with caution. As always, 
please backup your stacks.

Known issues with 8.0 DP 1:

- The new property inspector lacks some properties present in the old property 
inspector
- The extension store pane of the extensions manager does not always load
- The supplied widgets are examples and lack features and general robustness
- The extension builder plugin “Test” feature fails if the widget being tested 
is already installed - uninstalling the widget and restarting the IDE should 
help
- Widget icons do not appear in Android and iOS standalones as the appropriate 
resources are not included in the standalone
- All installed widgets are built into any standalones produced

LiveCode 8 is in an early stage of development so we’d love to hear any 
feedback you have on it. There are a number of features that we’d like to 
implement but aren’t ready yet  and the existing features are subject to change 
during development - we can’t guarantee that extensions written in DP1 will 
continue to work in later versions.

Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at 
http://quality.livecode.com/ 

We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at 
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93


Regards,
The LiveCode Team
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