Parsing the content of the clipboardData[objects] array
Dear List, Can anyone have experience with the clipboardData[objects] array and could give some clues how is it internally structured, please? I read in the doc: one or more Revolution objects serialized into an internal format but I've found any entry about this internal format. TIA. Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Playing a movie in Linux
Richmond, presumably you used the command to set which the movie player is? You did set videoClipPlayer and gave the full path of the executable? I've never done this, but it sounds like it ought to work. Yes, the instructions in the dictionary on what is the default do seem a little out of time. Maybe the answer is, go out to shell and do the command in the shell. If you do call it from a shell script, you will not have to give the absolute path, just the command with the appropriate command line parameters should do. On what the default player is, it will likely depend on the DTE as well as the distro. With Gnome, it will be mplayer. With a KDE install, it will be the KDE player. A bit like, if you are using Evolution for email, it will open the Gnome browser unless you set the properties and tell it different. If you are using kmail, even on a basically Gnome system, it will open links in Konqueror. We don't often do video, but the other day someone filmed a clip, copied it from camera to desktop, and it it simply played as soon as we opened it without any further intervention. So if you do use the shell, it should work fine. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Playing-a-movie-in-Linux-tp229p2292957.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Playing a movie in Linux
On 07/18/2010 12:24 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Richmond, presumably you used the command to set which the movie player is? You did set videoClipPlayer and gave the full path of the executable? I've never done this, but it sounds like it ought to work. Yes, the instructions in the dictionary on what is the default do seem a little out of time. Maybe the answer is, go out to shell and do the command in the shell. If you do call it from a shell script, you will not have to give the absolute path, just the command with the appropriate command line parameters should do. On what the default player is, it will likely depend on the DTE as well as the distro. With Gnome, it will be mplayer. With a KDE install, it will be the KDE player. A bit like, if you are using Evolution for email, it will open the Gnome browser unless you set the properties and tell it different. If you are using kmail, even on a basically Gnome system, it will open links in Konqueror. We don't often do video, but the other day someone filmed a clip, copied it from camera to desktop, and it it simply played as soon as we opened it without any further intervention. So if you do use the shell, it should work fine. The problem; and it is a problem, is that embedded videoClips seem to crash the IDE and as each distro and / or window manager works with a different movie player end-users of standalines would (quite how, one wonders) have to set pathways both for non-embedded video materials and for their specific video player. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
File Path Issue
Hey folks, I have a user that specifically wants to generate a set of text files inside the same folder location that the executable resides in, regardless of where that may be on the drive. Apparently he will be running the application on an OS like Win XP which allows such thing -or- in the administrator role. The files always use the same names, so at least that isn't much of an issue. Anyway, I can't seem to find the right combo to script the folder location to suit his needs... ...can anyone help with an example that might actually work? Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File Path Issue
Would using the stacks do? Any stacks that are open will be listed with their paths. A quick test here, with an openstack handler of put the stacks into field 1, gives this: /Users/colin/Desktop/stacks/MacOSX/stacks.app/Contents/MacOS/stacks where stacks was the name I gave the standalone. I could set the itemdelimiter to . and get rid of the embedded part, and then to / to get rid of the app's name part, to then know the path to where the application is. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File Path Issue
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: Would using the stacks do? Any stacks that are open will be listed with their paths. A quick test here, with an openstack handler of put the stacks into field 1, gives this: /Users/colin/Desktop/stacks/MacOSX/stacks.app/Contents/MacOS/stacks where stacks was the name I gave the standalone. I could set the itemdelimiter to . and get rid of the embedded part, and then to / to get rid of the app's name part, to then know the path to where the application is. Thank you Colin, I'll have a go at it armed with that info. Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File Path Issue
Okay it's all sorted out now... just needed a mental boost in the right direction. ;) Thank you very much for the help Colin. Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
Hi folks, it seems that it is the last minute to get onboard Rodeo for a pre-release ride... Version 2 seems to be coming this week... with data storage?? I have no connection with Rodeo.. just sympathy to the team and to you friendly reader, in case you hesitate or forget about it.. ! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Rodeo-Last-minute-call-to-get-onboard-with-pre-realase-conditions-tp2293199p2293199.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Audio format converter for Linux
http://freshmeat.net/projects/transcoder-audio-edition worth a look! And, come to think of it, you can probably do more with it than Danton's head . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
I am surprised by the many things revealed during this month's summit! Data Objects New ways to set object properties from other objects A New Editor A clearer explanation of the different forms that deployment can take. (Web App, Desktop App, etc) I was hesitant, but seeing the features pour in after 5 weeks and knowing that with a few more additions we can start to build some really neat apps, I am thrilled to watch and participate as rodeo becomes matures very quickly. Release price (in august) is likely to be higher than 99 a year or the 89 that you would pay if you were to get it now. Plus if you get in now, you can get rodeo transfer for free! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Rodeo-Last-minute-call-to-get-onboard-with-pre-realase-conditions-tp2293199p2293218.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Table field edits
1. I made a field called attachments and use the Geometry Manager to scale the right side of the field to the window. Set the stack for live resizing. With the following card handlers it works but the screen updates lag and the tab stops don't always get set to the same correct spot. on resizeStack -- to adjust tab stops for attachments field resetTabStops pass resizeStack end resizeStack on resetTabStops set the tabstops of field attachments to 200, (the width of field attachments - 30) end resetTabStops 2. Is there a way to inhibit cell movement upon a return key press? Normally when finished editing a cell and pressing Return it goes to the cell below. Can I prevent that from happening and just stay in the same cell? Thanks, Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation
Perhaps you you could try my docu stacks, which are atop BVG docu. they are currently on RevOnline: search for chaplais in the category Development. The initialization stack fills the target stack with dictionary entries. Then you can save the new myDict stack. You can, for instance, look for player in the name field or: in the name *or* summary field or: in the name or summary or description field. the PDF doc can be generated from a button on the initialization stack. You will find more explanations here. best François Le 17 juil. 2010 à 15:12, Richmond a écrit : On 07/16/2010 04:30 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: The other one that gets a bit much is that the Dictionary is glacially slow. Have you tried Björnke's BvG Docu?: http://bjoernke.com/?target=bvgdocu It works similarly to MC's, and is much more responsive than Rev's. It would be helpful to get your feedback on comparative performance. I have used it intermittently on Mac; my only criticism being that search terms are too strict. Just tried it on Linux and it works right speedily' significantly better than the standard dox. Too strict searched for 'player' in the standard dox, and get: player, player, vcplayer, videoClipPlayer + in BvG Docu get only player player. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation
Sorry, I didn't see this topic until today. I use the filter command on a list to find the search terms. So what you need is to search for *player (asterix at the start). Most of the time I am looking for a specific terms syntax. So normally I do not want all ocurence of player anywhere, bu know that I want the player object's entry (for example). That is why I made it this way. have fun Bjoernke Le 17 juil. 2010 à 15:12, Richmond a écrit : On 07/16/2010 04:30 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: The other one that gets a bit much is that the Dictionary is glacially slow. Have you tried Björnke's BvG Docu?: http://bjoernke.com/?target=bvgdocu It works similarly to MC's, and is much more responsive than Rev's. It would be helpful to get your feedback on comparative performance. I have used it intermittently on Mac; my only criticism being that search terms are too strict. Just tried it on Linux and it works right speedily' significantly better than the standard dox. Too strict searched for 'player' in the standard dox, and get: player, player, vcplayer, videoClipPlayer + in BvG Docu get only player player. -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com?target=chatrev Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
Id agree with that totally. That's the first summit that I have logged onto and I must say that im impressed with the approach roadmap. It's a fast-paced project, which seems to being run by level headed individuals, it will be very interesting to see where it goes. -Original Message- From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Kluthe Sent: 18 July 2010 18:14 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions! I am surprised by the many things revealed during this month's summit! Data Objects New ways to set object properties from other objects A New Editor A clearer explanation of the different forms that deployment can take. (Web App, Desktop App, etc) I was hesitant, but seeing the features pour in after 5 weeks and knowing that with a few more additions we can start to build some really neat apps, I am thrilled to watch and participate as rodeo becomes matures very quickly. Release price (in august) is likely to be higher than 99 a year or the 89 that you would pay if you were to get it now. Plus if you get in now, you can get rodeo transfer for free! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Rodeo-Last-minute-call-to- get-onboard-with-pre-realase-conditions-tp2293199p2293218.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
Can non subscribers view the said videos, I am curious! Cheers andre On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Ewan Richardson e...@supremis.co.ukwrote: Id agree with that totally. That's the first summit that I have logged onto and I must say that im impressed with the approach roadmap. It's a fast-paced project, which seems to being run by level headed individuals, it will be very interesting to see where it goes. -Original Message- From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Kluthe Sent: 18 July 2010 18:14 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions! I am surprised by the many things revealed during this month's summit! Data Objects New ways to set object properties from other objects A New Editor A clearer explanation of the different forms that deployment can take. (Web App, Desktop App, etc) I was hesitant, but seeing the features pour in after 5 weeks and knowing that with a few more additions we can start to build some really neat apps, I am thrilled to watch and participate as rodeo becomes matures very quickly. Release price (in august) is likely to be higher than 99 a year or the 89 that you would pay if you were to get it now. Plus if you get in now, you can get rodeo transfer for free! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Rodeo-Last-minute-call-to- get-onboard-with-pre-realase-conditions-tp2293199p2293218.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
Andre, Once the said videos are posted to the site, they are available to all! Best, Jerry Daniels Follow the Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Can non subscribers view the said videos, I am curious! Cheers andre On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Ewan Richardson e...@supremis.co.ukwrote: Id agree with that totally. That's the first summit that I have logged onto and I must say that im impressed with the approach roadmap. It's a fast-paced project, which seems to being run by level headed individuals, it will be very interesting to see where it goes. -Original Message- From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Kluthe Sent: 18 July 2010 18:14 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions! I am surprised by the many things revealed during this month's summit! Data Objects New ways to set object properties from other objects A New Editor A clearer explanation of the different forms that deployment can take. (Web App, Desktop App, etc) I was hesitant, but seeing the features pour in after 5 weeks and knowing that with a few more additions we can start to build some really neat apps, I am thrilled to watch and participate as rodeo becomes matures very quickly. Release price (in august) is likely to be higher than 99 a year or the 89 that you would pay if you were to get it now. Plus if you get in now, you can get rodeo transfer for free! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Rodeo-Last-minute-call-to- get-onboard-with-pre-realase-conditions-tp2293199p2293218.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
Thanks for the heads up Jerry On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.comwrote: Andre, Once the said videos are posted to the site, they are available to all! Best, Jerry Daniels Follow the Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Can non subscribers view the said videos, I am curious! Cheers andre On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Ewan Richardson e...@supremis.co.uk wrote: Id agree with that totally. That's the first summit that I have logged onto and I must say that im impressed with the approach roadmap. It's a fast-paced project, which seems to being run by level headed individuals, it will be very interesting to see where it goes. -Original Message- From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Kluthe Sent: 18 July 2010 18:14 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions! I am surprised by the many things revealed during this month's summit! Data Objects New ways to set object properties from other objects A New Editor A clearer explanation of the different forms that deployment can take. (Web App, Desktop App, etc) I was hesitant, but seeing the features pour in after 5 weeks and knowing that with a few more additions we can start to build some really neat apps, I am thrilled to watch and participate as rodeo becomes matures very quickly. Release price (in august) is likely to be higher than 99 a year or the 89 that you would pay if you were to get it now. Plus if you get in now, you can get rodeo transfer for free! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Rodeo-Last-minute-call-to- get-onboard-with-pre-realase-conditions-tp2293199p2293218.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MacMini G4, Debian, RunRev
Richmond, Yes, rev for linux is x86 only I wish they had an ARM port too... cheers andre On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: Having had a mini-adventure yesterday with MorphOS on my MacMini [ a sort of back-to-the-future type of experience where contextual menus pop up in funny places and the GUI behaves neither like the Mac, Win, GNOME, KDE or RISC OS GUIs, yet is not slick enough to seem a better bet than the minimalist GUIs for Linux - not something I can see myself shelling out 111 Euros for], I thought I would entertain myself by popping Debian on the machine. Having played around with quite a few Debian derivatives, and using the derivative - Ubuntu - I started feeling a bit silly during recent discussions here than I had never tried out Debian. As I don't have a free [ take note those who were getting confused about the meaning of the word 'free'; this is free as in - freely available -, not ?; I paid for the thing! ] PC I will try it out on the MacMini [Um . . . Safari says it will take about 1 hour and 45 minutes to download the DVD]. However, I have a feeling that RunRev for Linux won't on PPC Linux [ it certainly wouldn't on Ubuntu PPC a while back ]. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File lists
On 7/17/10 5:56 PM, Ken Ray wrote: The only suggestion I have is to be careful of the replace comma with cr in tFiles line - if there's a comma in the file name you'll get a wrong result. Also you get a bunch of extra crap when you have the full paths to the files when using files of folderfolder. Try this instead (watch the line wraps): function getFiles pFolder put revMacFromUnixPath(pFolder) into pFolder put replaceText(tell app `Finder` cr \ the name of every file of folder ` pFolder ` cr \ end tell,`,quote) into tScript do tScript as AppleScript put replaceText(char 3 to -3 of the result,(quote , quote),CR) into tList return tList end getFiles Thanks Ken, you're right of course. I should have known you'd regex something. :) Would have replied sooner but we lost our electricity most of last night. I bet the same gigantic thunderstorm hit you too. There was a tornado touch-down just north of here. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data
On 7/17/10 10:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote: After more testing, this problem only occurs when the revlet is run from a server. If I put the same revlet on the local drive, IE will allow writing to disk. If it is run from a server, IE prevents writing to disk. Is there a way around this? I'm not sure what's causing the problem but it sounds like a permissions issue. Doesn't IE block a lot of that kind of thing unless you set its internet security level lower? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
Thanks Jerry, sorry I couldn't be there; personal matters on Saturday at the same time prevented, but I want to see what happened. On 18 July 2010 20:15, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: Andre, Once the said videos are posted to the site, they are available to all! Best, Jerry Daniels Follow the Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves - Stephen Barncard IN KC , returning to San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution