What's Up With GMail's Spam Filtering?

[lange85]

Hi all,

Every once in a while I go into my Gmail Junk folder using the native mail
app on my phone.  It's amazing what I find in there sometimes.
Unfortunately, I keep finding stuff that is posted to this list that should
have gone directly to my inbox but it is routed to the junk folder instead.
So why is Gmail doing that? Any ideas?

Thanks,

Tom

 

 

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RE: Mail Annoyance with Message Threads

[lange85]

Hi Alan,

You wrote:

 

I'm also using the native Mail app on the latest version of iOS but I'm not 
following your question. You mention a new thread which I'm assuming is one in 
your inbox containing multiple messages. 

 

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m talking about.

 

But you don't say anything about expanding the thread which is what I first do. 
After I expand the thread, I swipe down to the first message and let VoiceOver 
speak the message without actually opening the message which I only do if the 
message is too long to be spoken by my preview setting. 

 

 

I don’t have previews turned on. Also, I never expand the thread and swipe down 
to the first message as you described. I just double-tap on the thread and, it 
it’s a brand-new thread, I assume that I’ll land in message 1,  read it and go 
on from there. Perhaps I should start using your method. 

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Mail Annoyance with Message Threads

[lange85]

Hi,

This situation has been around for years and I don't know what to do about
it. I'm running the native Mail app on an iPhone 12 Pro with the latest IOS.
I have Mail set up so that messages are threaded, which is particularly
useful on high-traffic mailing lists when I want to temporarily ignore or
trash a group of messages that don't interest me. Though this doesn't happen
consistently, when I open a brand-new thread, VoiceOver will say that I'm in
message 1 then immediately jump to message 2. I then have to use the rotor
to get to Messages and swipe back to message 1. Does anybody else experience
this and if so how did you solve it?

Thanks in advance. 

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Apple Music: Getting An Accurate Count

[lange85]

Hi all,

I Love, love, Love Apple Music and have had it since it was introduced way
back when. Over the years I've amassed a huge library of music of all
styles, including classic rock, classical, country, jazz, bluegrass R and
all kinds of stuff.  My old CD player died years ago, so I got rid of nearly
all my CD's and went online to replace my collection. I was talking to a
buddy of mine the other day and introduced him to Apple Music and he's
really diggin't it too. it occurred  to me that I couldn't give him an
accurate count of the potentially hundreds or even thousands of albums that
I think that I've put into my library over the years. So I got into it
recently, sorted by artists, then by albums and by Songs. In Artists, I
showed 100 screens worth of stuff, and when I sorted by Albums, I got 1, 057
screens. When I sorted by Songs I got 4, 868 screens. This Is on my iPhone
12 Pro running the latest version of IOS. Is there a way that I can get an
accurate count of artists, albums and songs? I didn't see a way to do that,
but I think it would be really nice to get those counts.  Is there a way to
do that without endlessly scrolling through the lists, which doesn't give me
what I want? Thanks for all of your suggestions. I appreciate it.  

Tom

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FW: [Tech-VI] From TTJ: Open Apple Q: Thursday, June 13, 8:00 PM Eastern Time

[lange85]

Hi,

I saw this on the Tech-VI list and thought I’d pass it on. A link in the below 
message points to an article about what’s coming in SIRI.  Will she at long 
last gain some real intelligence? ? I hope so. Time will tell.  

 

Tom

 

 

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RE: learning to play guitar and other stringed instruments as a blind person

[lange85]

Hi all,

This is going to be a rather lengthy post, so don’t say I didn’t warn ya.

I was born in 1954. My parents gave me musical toys to play with as early as 
when I was one-and-a-half years old, and I used to pick out tunes that I heard 
on the radio or on television. One of those musical toys was a little plastic 
guitar which I would tune up to a major chord. I was mystified by those little 
ridges on the neck which I later learned were called frets and that pushing the 
strings down behind those frets would let me go way beyond the chord that I’d 
tuned the guitar to. 

In 1963 I discovered the piano, and when my family would go to visit relatives 
or friends, the first thing I’d do upon entering their houses would see if I 
could find one to bang around on. Once I figured out the note relationships I 
could then try to replicate what I hear on the radio, on TV or in church. My 
folks got me started on piano lessons so in addition to learning a bit of 
Braille music I got an early education  in theory. But by then I got bit by the 
rock ‘n roll bug and was fascinated by the sounds of the electric guitar on 
records by the Beatles, Stones, Dave Clark Five, the Kinks  and the Who. I 
discovered some neighborhood kids who also played and loved rock music and we 
actually put together a little rock band with me on keys. We did our first gig 
at a bar mitzvah party in the spring of 1966 and gigged frequently throughout 
that summer. Dad bought me a combo organ and an amp and that was my rig for a 
number of years. Seems I’ve always had some sort of band to gig with both on 
keyboards and guitar and I’m still doing it at age 70. Anyway, back then in 
1966 the guys would leave their guitars and basses down in my basement where we 
practiced, and I began to explore the guitar by ear and had all sorts of fun 
figuring out how they worked. Playing organ was lots of fun but I knew that 
some day I’d find a way to get my own guitar. In late 1967 two things happened 
for me that strengthened my resolve to get a guitar. I heard WLS out of Chicago 
playing Cream’s Sunshine of Your Love, and I’d never ever heard a guitar sound 
like that. Then, shortly thereafter my local station in Kansas City, WHB, ran 
their Tuesday night segment called Make It Or Break It, in which a brand-new 
single was introduced. If the audience liked it it would go into heavy 
rotation; if not, the DJ would break the single in half and throw it in the 
trash.  On the night in question, the new single was Foxey Lady by Jimi 
Hendrix. . That was a total mindF**k for me and I said to myself, I wanna do 
that. I loved the power of Eric’s and Jimi’s guitar sounds

BTW, Foxey Lady was broken in half and trashed much to my extreme chagrin. 

Fast forward a few months and my sister’s boyfriend’s brother gave me a 1962 
Gibson SG Junior which I still have to this day and I was free to set about 
really learning the instrument. Trouble was, I learned it Jeff Healey-style, 
playing overhand with the guitar lying on my lap. My bandmates gave me grief 
about playing that way and showed me how to properly hold the guitar and proper 
fingering. From then on, I was off and running.  It was much easier to play 
that way and imitate the likes of Eric, Jimi, Johnny Winter, Peter Frampton, 
Leslie West, Ritchie Blackmore, Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck, all of whom 
influenced me in one way or another back then. I also picked up an acoustic 
guitar and learned a bit about slide guitar and also fingerpicking, plus 
different tunings used by the likes of Joni Mitchell, Stephen Stills, David 
Crosby and others. . That’s been loads of fun and challenging in the bargain.

I guess to sum it all up, my modus operandi has always been to try to figure 
things out by ear and try to replicate what I’ve heard. If you’ve got the ear 
for it, grab your axe, tune into as much music as you can and woodshed, just 
play and play and play. Find some buddies to hang and jam with and go for it. 
It can be a tremendous learning experience and a hell of a lot of fun. 

Tom

   

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: learning to play guitar and other stringed instruments as a blind 
person

 

I learnt to play the guitar first when my daughter’s primary school teacher 
offered lunchtime lessons to parents and then I attended evening classes. I 
started with basic guitar chords used in popular and rock songs but then went 
onto classical guitar and only stopped when the others in the class started 
learning to read music and I could no longer keep pace with them.

Alison

 

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person

 

I began learning guitar from a course from NLS called Don Hoffer’s Guitar 
method for the 

RE: Sonos App Update

[lange85]

Hi Sieghard,

Funny timing indeed! I ran the update just after I saw your message.  After 
looking at a couple of dialogs which I closed, the new app wanted me to do a 
software update for my Sonos speakers, which are the old Sonos 1.  The firmware 
update completed successfully and I’m happy to say that the speakers are back 
in action, and, exploring the screen with VoiceOver seems to work okay. I’ve 
got a lot of exploring to do, but I’ll take my time with that. I’ve got a lot 
of other stuff that I need to do today. I look forward to hearing about how you 
and others out there are faring with the recent update. Thanks.

 

Tom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos App Update

 

Funny timing, I was just composing my message about the app update. Depending 
on how adventurous you are I would say you can update now, but there is 
definitely a bit of a learning curve and some experimentation required. It is 
definitely a lot better, though, maybe some others who have updated will post 
their feedback and what they have discovered works and doesn't work.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
lang...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sonos App Update

 

Hi,

I checked out the app store this morning and found version 80.01.10 of the 
Sonos app is available, and, among other things it’s supposed to have improved 
VoiceOver support. Has anybody tried it yet? Just curious. I’m still running 
the older version prior to the redesign.  

Tom

 

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Sonos App Update

[lange85]

Hi,

I checked out the app store this morning and found version 80.01.10 of the
Sonos app is available, and, among other things it's supposed to have
improved VoiceOver support. Has anybody tried it yet? Just curious. I'm
still running the older version prior to the redesign.  

Tom

 

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Facebook App and Its Web Browser

[lange85]

Hi folks,

While using the Facebook app, I often encounter posts which will direct me
to various web pages which are often riddled with ads.  Needless to say,
this can be a major pain to have to wade through. If the page is exceedingly
large and overrun with ads, things can get hopelessly bogged down and I have
to close the page. I'd much rather use Safari with its Reader View which
strips out the ads and offers a smoother reading experience. Is there a way
to tell  IOS or the Facebook app that I don't want to use Facebook's
internal browser? If so, how can I do that? BTW, I'd rather not use the
Mobile Facebook web site.  Suggestions are welcome.

Thanks,

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RE: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

[lange85]

Hi,

The “misspelled Words” item in the rotor is definitely a bug.  Here’s what 
someone at Applevis has to say about it.

 

There are numerous places system-wide where the Misspelled Words item will be 
in the VoiceOver rotor's Action menu where this functionality is not available 
(examples include when viewing a web page in Safari and when reading an email 
in Mail). In some of these it is the default position of the VoiceOver rotor, 
which is a frustrating hit on the user experience - for example when opening a 
webpage in Safari and expecting to be able to immediately flick down to 
navigate by heading.

 

Someone else on this list reported that it also occurs in the NFB Newsline app 
when trying to navigate through newspapers by heading. I can definitely verify 
this, as I experienced it this morning. 

 

Tom

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby 
Hill
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

 

Hi All,

Alan, I haven't notice your thread issue because I usually open a thread with a 
one finger double tap and read through the messages that way. ⠠⠓⠪⠐⠑⠂ I know 
what you mean when exiting from a message or for me it occurs on a thread of 
messages. When I return to the ⠍⠑⠎⠎⠁⠛⠑ list there is random behavior. Sometimes 
it does focus on the message or thread I have just closed, but at other times 
the focus is at the top or somewhere else on the message list. (Sometimes I 
whimsically wonder if it has something ⠞⠕ do with the way I am holding the 
⠏⠓⠐⠕⠲ :)) It is annoying, and I need to report it also. I was hoping that 13.2 
would fix it, but it hasn't.

The other weird thing that happens for me is that when I am reading through a 
thread message by message, when I turn the rotor ⠞⠕ to go to the "messages" 
setting I always have to pass through "misspelled words." I have looked all 
over to try to get rid of the "misspelled words" in the rotor with no luck. 
Neither "Messages" nor "misspelled words" appear in the rotor list, so I can't 
change their order. I searched in settings for "misspelled words" and couldn't 
find any reference to it. Am I missing something or is this is just a bug?

Thanks for any help!

Take care and have fun!

Debby  

On Nov 1, 2019 4:19 PM, matthew dyer mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

 

This is a bug which I think someone reported, but it doesn’t heart to report as 
well. 

 

I am currently using outlook for iOS and it works just fine here.

Matthew

 

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

 

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Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 12:08 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List'
Subject: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2 

 

Hi List,

 

I think this subject might have been previously discussed so I apologize as I 
only upgraded to iOS 13.x on Tuesday of this week.

 

I use the native Mail app for reading my Gmail account emails and I have it set 
to display messages in threaded mode. I'm noticing that when focus is on a 
message group with multiple messages, that when I single finger swipe down and 
select expand to open the list of messages in the group that focus jumps 
several screens up or down rather than leaving me at the top of the opened list 
as it did in iOS 12.4.1. I get similar screen jumps and loss of focus when I 
single finger swipe to contract the opened thread.

 

I'm also noticing that when I open a single email that isn't part of a group, 
that focus isn't on it any longer when I go back to my message list using 
either the back button or the scrub gesture.

 

This loss of focus makes reading emails on my iPhone 8 a royal pain and I'm 
wondering if others are experiencing it. If there is a workaround, I'd love to 
hear it or if this is a known issue, I'd love to know that too. I plan on 
writing Apple Accessibility to report this but I wanted to check with this list 
first before doing that.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

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RE: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

[lange85]

Hi Alan,

I’ve experienced similar issues with the native Mail app since IOS 13 came out. 
 I reported it to Apple Accessibility and they responded, saying that the 
problem couldn’t be reproduced.  I suspect that the guy who handled the 
situation didn’t know what I was talking about and was basically clueless. I’ll 
report it again, as reading mail can be a royal pain because of the focus 
issues.  

 

I also plan to report Braille display issues as well. I had thought that 
Braille behavior had improved with 13.2, but there are still a number of issues 
while using my Braille display, including VO crashing. 

 

Tom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 9:08 AM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
Subject: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

 

Hi List,

 

I think this subject might have been previously discussed so I apologize as I 
only upgraded to iOS 13.x on Tuesday of this week.

 

I use the native Mail app for reading my Gmail account emails and I have it set 
to display messages in threaded mode. I'm noticing that when focus is on a 
message group with multiple messages, that when I single finger swipe down and 
select expand to open the list of messages in the group that focus jumps 
several screens up or down rather than leaving me at the top of the opened list 
as it did in iOS 12.4.1. I get similar screen jumps and loss of focus when I 
single finger swipe to contract the opened thread.

 

I'm also noticing that when I open a single email that isn't part of a group, 
that focus isn't on it any longer when I go back to my message list using 
either the back button or the scrub gesture.

 

This loss of focus makes reading emails on my iPhone 8 a royal pain and I'm 
wondering if others are experiencing it. If there is a workaround, I'd love to 
hear it or if this is a known issue, I'd love to know that too. I plan on 
writing Apple Accessibility to report this but I wanted to check with this list 
first before doing that.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

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