Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with different gateway

2008-01-03 Thread Aubrey Wells
Not sure about the vyatta overriding part, I'm always unsure of what  
will get overridden myself. I do know that you will need to put your  
commands in to /etc/rc.d/rc.local so it will survive a reboot.

For the bandwidth tracking, I'm using a utility called bandwidthd and  
it works very well.

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On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:18 PM, Daren Tay wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> yeah I want to route them out different gateway.
>
> what is this ip tool you are refering to? you mean the standard 'ip'  
> command
> over the linux kernel?
> And if I issue these command, won't xorp override it everytime i do  
> a commit
> within it? I thought Vyatta overrides any routing/settings the  
> kernel has..
>
> so base on what you are advicing me,
>> #ip route add default via 10.0.0.1 dev eth0 tab 1
>> #ip route add default via 10.1.0.1 dev eth1 tab 2
>> #ip rule add from 192.168.16.0/24 tab 1 priority 500
>> #ip rule add from 192.168.17.024 tab 2 priority 600
>
> say my subnet 1 is 192.168.16.0/24
> subnet 2 is 192.168.17.0/24
>
> by add the above, i can define the default gateway out?
>
> And as my original question mention, will it interfere with Vyatta's
> settings (static routing etc), or vice versa?
>
> On a side note, am I able to track bandwidth usage on each of this
> interface?
>
> Thanks!
> Daren
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Aubrey Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:19 AM
> To: Robert Bays
> Cc: Daren Tay; vyatta-users@mailman.vyatta.com
> Subject: Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with different
> gateway
>
>
> hmmm I did not know you could do that with ip in linux. very
> interesting. you just solved a problem for me as well, thanks. :-)
>
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>
>
> On Jan 3, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Robert Bays wrote:
>
>> Daren,
>>
>> If I am understanding you correctly you want to route the first local
>> interface out one gateway and the second local interface out the
>> second
>> gateway.  You would need to use source based routing to do what you
>> are
>> looking for.  That's not currently supported in the cli, but you can
>> do
>> it from the linux command prompt using the ip tool.  Something like
>> this
>> should work for you.
>>
>> #ip route add default via 10.0.0.1 dev eth0 tab 1
>> #ip route add default via 10.1.0.1 dev eth1 tab 2
>> #ip rule add from 192.168.16.0/24 tab 1 priority 500
>> #ip rule add from 192.168.17.024 tab 2 priority 600
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Robert.
>>
>>
>> Daren Tay wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> my intention is just to use one router to handle 2 subnet.
>>> But each subnet has their own gateway, so how do I specify the
>>> different
>>> gateway on the router?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Daren
>>>
>>>   -Original Message-
>>>   *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>>>   *Nick Davey
>>>   *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:25 PM
>>>   *To:* Daren Tay
>>>   *Cc:* vyatta-users@mailman.vyatta.com
>>>   *Subject:* Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with
>>>   different gateway
>>>
>>>   I don't know if I'm understanding this right. You want to add a
>>>   second subnet on a second interface of the Vyatta router? In that
>>>   case, yes it will work fine, without much extra configuration (you
>>>   may need to modify your NAT/firewall rules). That's a pretty
>>>   straight forward setup though. If you are looking to add a second
>>>   router to your network, with a second network behind that router
>>> you
>>>   would need to add static routes for the network behind the second
>>>   router, and a default route on the second router. Alternatively
>>> you
>>>   could use a simple routing protocol like RIP. Make sense?
>>>
>>>   On Jan 3, 2008 3:13 AM, Daren Tay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>   > wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi guys,
>>>
>>>   happy 2008 wherever you guys are!
>>>
>>>   I have a question:
>>>   Currently my vyatta router is handling one subnet with one
>>>   gateway, using
>>>   NAT for the servers.
>>>   SO basically its just static routing.
>>>
>>>   I now need to add another subnet (different project) into the
>>>   picture, which
>>>   has its own gateway.
>>>   Can the vyatta router handle 2 different subnet, each with its
>>>   own gateway?
>>>
>>>   Do advice ;)
>>>
>>>   Thanks!
>>>   Daren
>>>
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Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with different gateway

2008-01-03 Thread Daren Tay
Hi guys,

yeah I want to route them out different gateway.

what is this ip tool you are refering to? you mean the standard 'ip' command
over the linux kernel?
And if I issue these command, won't xorp override it everytime i do a commit
within it? I thought Vyatta overrides any routing/settings the kernel has..

so base on what you are advicing me,
> #ip route add default via 10.0.0.1 dev eth0 tab 1
> #ip route add default via 10.1.0.1 dev eth1 tab 2
> #ip rule add from 192.168.16.0/24 tab 1 priority 500
> #ip rule add from 192.168.17.024 tab 2 priority 600

say my subnet 1 is 192.168.16.0/24
subnet 2 is 192.168.17.0/24

by add the above, i can define the default gateway out?

And as my original question mention, will it interfere with Vyatta's
settings (static routing etc), or vice versa?

On a side note, am I able to track bandwidth usage on each of this
interface?

Thanks!
Daren

-Original Message-
From: Aubrey Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:19 AM
To: Robert Bays
Cc: Daren Tay; vyatta-users@mailman.vyatta.com
Subject: Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with different
gateway


hmmm I did not know you could do that with ip in linux. very
interesting. you just solved a problem for me as well, thanks. :-)

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Senior Engineer
Shelton | Johns Technology Group
A Vyatta Ready Partner
www.sheltonjohns.com


On Jan 3, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Robert Bays wrote:

> Daren,
>
> If I am understanding you correctly you want to route the first local
> interface out one gateway and the second local interface out the
> second
> gateway.  You would need to use source based routing to do what you
> are
> looking for.  That's not currently supported in the cli, but you can
> do
> it from the linux command prompt using the ip tool.  Something like
> this
> should work for you.
>
> #ip route add default via 10.0.0.1 dev eth0 tab 1
> #ip route add default via 10.1.0.1 dev eth1 tab 2
> #ip rule add from 192.168.16.0/24 tab 1 priority 500
> #ip rule add from 192.168.17.024 tab 2 priority 600
>
> Cheers,
> Robert.
>
>
> Daren Tay wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> my intention is just to use one router to handle 2 subnet.
>> But each subnet has their own gateway, so how do I specify the
>> different
>> gateway on the router?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Daren
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>>*Nick Davey
>>*Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:25 PM
>>*To:* Daren Tay
>>*Cc:* vyatta-users@mailman.vyatta.com
>>*Subject:* Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with
>>different gateway
>>
>>I don't know if I'm understanding this right. You want to add a
>>second subnet on a second interface of the Vyatta router? In that
>>case, yes it will work fine, without much extra configuration (you
>>may need to modify your NAT/firewall rules). That's a pretty
>>straight forward setup though. If you are looking to add a second
>>router to your network, with a second network behind that router
>> you
>>would need to add static routes for the network behind the second
>>router, and a default route on the second router. Alternatively
>> you
>>could use a simple routing protocol like RIP. Make sense?
>>
>>On Jan 3, 2008 3:13 AM, Daren Tay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> wrote:
>>
>>Hi guys,
>>
>>happy 2008 wherever you guys are!
>>
>>I have a question:
>>Currently my vyatta router is handling one subnet with one
>>gateway, using
>>NAT for the servers.
>>SO basically its just static routing.
>>
>>I now need to add another subnet (different project) into the
>>picture, which
>>has its own gateway.
>>Can the vyatta router handle 2 different subnet, each with its
>>own gateway?
>>
>>Do advice ;)
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Daren
>>
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Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with different gateway

2008-01-03 Thread Aubrey Wells
hmmm I did not know you could do that with ip in linux. very  
interesting. you just solved a problem for me as well, thanks. :-)

--
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Senior Engineer
Shelton | Johns Technology Group
A Vyatta Ready Partner
www.sheltonjohns.com


On Jan 3, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Robert Bays wrote:

> Daren,
>
> If I am understanding you correctly you want to route the first local
> interface out one gateway and the second local interface out the  
> second
> gateway.  You would need to use source based routing to do what you  
> are
> looking for.  That's not currently supported in the cli, but you can  
> do
> it from the linux command prompt using the ip tool.  Something like  
> this
> should work for you.
>
> #ip route add default via 10.0.0.1 dev eth0 tab 1
> #ip route add default via 10.1.0.1 dev eth1 tab 2
> #ip rule add from 192.168.16.0/24 tab 1 priority 500
> #ip rule add from 192.168.17.024 tab 2 priority 600
>
> Cheers,
> Robert.
>
>
> Daren Tay wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> my intention is just to use one router to handle 2 subnet.
>> But each subnet has their own gateway, so how do I specify the  
>> different
>> gateway on the router?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Daren
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>>*Nick Davey
>>*Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:25 PM
>>*To:* Daren Tay
>>*Cc:* vyatta-users@mailman.vyatta.com
>>*Subject:* Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with
>>different gateway
>>
>>I don't know if I'm understanding this right. You want to add a
>>second subnet on a second interface of the Vyatta router? In that
>>case, yes it will work fine, without much extra configuration (you
>>may need to modify your NAT/firewall rules). That's a pretty
>>straight forward setup though. If you are looking to add a second
>>router to your network, with a second network behind that router  
>> you
>>would need to add static routes for the network behind the second
>>router, and a default route on the second router. Alternatively  
>> you
>>could use a simple routing protocol like RIP. Make sense?
>>
>>On Jan 3, 2008 3:13 AM, Daren Tay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> wrote:
>>
>>Hi guys,
>>
>>happy 2008 wherever you guys are!
>>
>>I have a question:
>>Currently my vyatta router is handling one subnet with one
>>gateway, using
>>NAT for the servers.
>>SO basically its just static routing.
>>
>>I now need to add another subnet (different project) into the
>>picture, which
>>has its own gateway.
>>Can the vyatta router handle 2 different subnet, each with its
>>own gateway?
>>
>>Do advice ;)
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Daren
>>
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Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with different gateway

2008-01-03 Thread Robert Bays
Daren,

If I am understanding you correctly you want to route the first local
interface out one gateway and the second local interface out the second
gateway.  You would need to use source based routing to do what you are
looking for.  That's not currently supported in the cli, but you can do
it from the linux command prompt using the ip tool.  Something like this
should work for you.

#ip route add default via 10.0.0.1 dev eth0 tab 1
#ip route add default via 10.1.0.1 dev eth1 tab 2
#ip rule add from 192.168.16.0/24 tab 1 priority 500
#ip rule add from 192.168.17.024 tab 2 priority 600

Cheers,
Robert.


Daren Tay wrote:
> Hi there,
>  
> my intention is just to use one router to handle 2 subnet.
> But each subnet has their own gateway, so how do I specify the different
> gateway on the router?
>  
> Thanks!
> Daren
> 
> -Original Message-
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> *Nick Davey
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:25 PM
> *To:* Daren Tay
> *Cc:* vyatta-users@mailman.vyatta.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with
> different gateway
> 
> I don't know if I'm understanding this right. You want to add a
> second subnet on a second interface of the Vyatta router? In that
> case, yes it will work fine, without much extra configuration (you
> may need to modify your NAT/firewall rules). That's a pretty
> straight forward setup though. If you are looking to add a second
> router to your network, with a second network behind that router you
> would need to add static routes for the network behind the second
> router, and a default route on the second router. Alternatively you
> could use a simple routing protocol like RIP. Make sense?
> 
> On Jan 3, 2008 3:13 AM, Daren Tay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> happy 2008 wherever you guys are!
> 
> I have a question:
> Currently my vyatta router is handling one subnet with one
> gateway, using
> NAT for the servers.
> SO basically its just static routing.
> 
> I now need to add another subnet (different project) into the
> picture, which
> has its own gateway.
> Can the vyatta router handle 2 different subnet, each with its
> own gateway?
> 
> Do advice ;)
> 
> Thanks!
> Daren
> 
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Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with different gateway

2008-01-03 Thread Aubrey Wells
I think the problem is he is wanting to have two default gateways for  
two different subnets. Is this what you're trying to do? If so, the  
answer is no because you can't do ECMP routing in vyatta at the  
moment. Add your vote to the wiki http://vyatta.com/twiki/bin/view/Community/TopEnhancements


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On Jan 3, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Ken Felix (C) wrote:

Will each subnet be it’s own  interface? You should easily be able  
to perform this with  binding the second subnet to another interface.


i.e


interface Ethernet eth0
  description 1st  subnet ( existing )
   ip address aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/24

interface Ethernet eth1
   description second subnet
   ip address eee.fff.ggg.hhh/24



Or  you could look at 802.1q trunking and a router-on-stick approach.

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[Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with different gateway

2008-01-03 Thread Ken Felix (C)
Will each subnet be it's own  interface? You should easily be able to
perform this with  binding the second subnet to another interface.

 

i.e

 

 

interface Ethernet eth0

  description 1st  subnet ( existing )

   ip address aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/24

 

interface Ethernet eth1

   description second subnet  

   ip address eee.fff.ggg.hhh/24

 

 

 

Or  you could look at 802.1q trunking and a router-on-stick approach.

 

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Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with different gateway

2008-01-03 Thread Daren Tay
Hi there,

my intention is just to use one router to handle 2 subnet.
But each subnet has their own gateway, so how do I specify the different
gateway on the router?

Thanks!
Daren
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nick Davey
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:25 PM
  To: Daren Tay
  Cc: vyatta-users@mailman.vyatta.com
  Subject: Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with different
gateway


  I don't know if I'm understanding this right. You want to add a second
subnet on a second interface of the Vyatta router? In that case, yes it will
work fine, without much extra configuration (you may need to modify your
NAT/firewall rules). That's a pretty straight forward setup though. If you
are looking to add a second router to your network, with a second network
behind that router you would need to add static routes for the network
behind the second router, and a default route on the second router.
Alternatively you could use a simple routing protocol like RIP. Make sense?


  On Jan 3, 2008 3:13 AM, Daren Tay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi guys,

happy 2008 wherever you guys are!

I have a question:
Currently my vyatta router is handling one subnet with one gateway,
using
NAT for the servers.
SO basically its just static routing.

I now need to add another subnet (different project) into the picture,
which
has its own gateway.
Can the vyatta router handle 2 different subnet, each with its own
gateway?

Do advice ;)

Thanks!
Daren

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Re: [Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with different gateway

2008-01-03 Thread Nick Davey
I don't know if I'm understanding this right. You want to add a second
subnet on a second interface of the Vyatta router? In that case, yes it will
work fine, without much extra configuration (you may need to modify your
NAT/firewall rules). That's a pretty straight forward setup though. If you
are looking to add a second router to your network, with a second network
behind that router you would need to add static routes for the network
behind the second router, and a default route on the second router.
Alternatively you could use a simple routing protocol like RIP. Make sense?

On Jan 3, 2008 3:13 AM, Daren Tay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> happy 2008 wherever you guys are!
>
> I have a question:
> Currently my vyatta router is handling one subnet with one gateway, using
> NAT for the servers.
> SO basically its just static routing.
>
> I now need to add another subnet (different project) into the picture,
> which
> has its own gateway.
> Can the vyatta router handle 2 different subnet, each with its own
> gateway?
>
> Do advice ;)
>
> Thanks!
> Daren
>
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[Vyatta-users] Merging networks

2008-01-03 Thread Denha Uila
Hi.

I was trying to figure out how to accomplish this with VyattaI have to 
merge two networks, but I have both the network on the same classes.

I was wondering how to solve this with Vyattaone solution could be with 
NAT, so I put the network2 behind the router natting on an IP free on the other 
one, but this is not really satisfying me

Do you have any suggestion?

Thanks.

   
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[Vyatta-users] Managing different subnet with different gateway

2008-01-03 Thread Daren Tay
Hi guys,

happy 2008 wherever you guys are!

I have a question:
Currently my vyatta router is handling one subnet with one gateway, using
NAT for the servers.
SO basically its just static routing.

I now need to add another subnet (different project) into the picture, which
has its own gateway.
Can the vyatta router handle 2 different subnet, each with its own gateway?

Do advice ;)

Thanks!
Daren

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