[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T321390: Provide low-barrier way to create/edit items based on a schema

[Olea]

Olea added a comment.


  Is this related with this other proposal? Integrating form-based entity 
creation using Shape Expressions into the Wikibase UI 
.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T321390: Provide low-barrier way to create/edit items based on a schema

[Bugreporter]

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T321390: Provide low-barrier way to create/edit items based on a schema

[DrThneed]

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  I am commenting here because I have an overlapping problem - not exactly the 
same because I know the schema I am working to, but as it covers similar ground 
maybe it is useful.
  
  I would love a tool that easily creates a new Wikidata item based on a given 
schema - but I don't want it to be a full schema with dozens of possible 
statements and qualifiers and every possible identifier, like Cradle, so I have 
to scroll up and down heaps to find the applicable bits. I want it to be a tool 
where I can specify the standard statements I require once (without their 
values), and have the tool create an 'empty' item for me to complete. E.g. I am 
often reconciling people in OpenRefine to match them as authors or advisors on 
academic theses. When the right person does not already exist I need to quickly 
make a new item, so that I can match them before I move on to the next name 
string. It is time consuming to compile information on lots of new people into 
a spreadsheet and do this via QS or OR, so I generally do it manually right 
when I need it. But that's tedious . A tool that allows me to create a new 
Wikidata item with instance of human, empty sex or gender, employer, educated 
at, and identifiers for Googlescholar, Orcid, ResearchGate and LinkedIn would 
save me sooo much time. I know someone did a similar tool for creating events 
and people for figure-skating, but I don't code and can't do this myself.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T321390: Provide low-barrier way to create/edit items based on a schema

[Lydia_Pintscher]

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T321390: Provide low-barrier way to create/edit items based on a schema

[Panyasan]

Panyasan updated the task description.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T321390: Provide low-barrier way to create/edit items based on a schema

[Panyasan]

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T321390: Provide low-barrier way to create/edit items based on a schema

[So9q]

So9q added a comment.


  Thanks for taking the time to submit this ticket. I support it.
  Cradle is a good  start, but it lacks many important features. 
  For example it lacks the check for duplicates that is present e.g in the 
Wikidata lexeme forms tool or through reconciliation in openrefine.
  
  It also lacks the feature of editing an existing item that exists in Wikidata 
lexeme forms.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T321390: Provide low-barrier way to create/edit items based on a schema

[Bugreporter]

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  Currently there is Cradle (https://cradle.toolforge.org/), though it can only 
be used to create new items, not editing existing ones; and WE-Framework gadget 
(https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:WE-Framework).

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T321390: Provide low-barrier way to create/edit items based on a schema

[Panyasan]

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  **Feature summary** (what you would like to be able to do and where):
  
  A new way to create or edit items based on a schema instead of now only from 
scratch or complex not really well maintained or too complex external tools.
  
  **Use case(s)** (list the steps that you performed to discover that problem, 
and describe the actual underlying problem which you want to solve. Do not 
describe only a solution):
  
  I am leading a research project which generates biography data on academic 
scholars. For the most part, these scholars already have wikidata entry, but 
barely any (connected) entity data. I am willing to invest time to contribute 
this data to WikiData, but no expertise on which data schema is suitable for 
this kind of entry. In order for me or equally non-expert research assistants 
to be able to contribute domain-specific data, it is necessary to have a form 
based on a schema which suits the object being edited (such as "academic 
scholar") and which provides fields that are generated from the schema and 
allow to enter the necessary information or link to other entities (via 
search/autocomplete).
  
  **Benefits** (why should this be implemented?):
  
  Because it lowers the barrier for non-experts to contribute or update 
WikiData data and provides data validation to avoid the adding of 
non-standard/duplicate/non-normalized entity data. In general, in my view, this 
would significantly boost the participation of domain specialists which cannot 
afford the time to deal with WikiData internals.

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