[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-03-22 Thread Arian_Bozorg
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  Thank you all for your work on this

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-03-22 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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  In T351968#9602082 , 
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote:
  
  > Most of the subtasks here are done, but I think there’s still a big open 
question about the rollout. In T343800 
, we found that temporary accounts, 
once created on a wiki with IP Masking enabled, were also “logged in” and 
available on other wikis via CentralAuth, which worked well for us. But this 
has changed in the meantime (T342475 
) – now, you’ll still be an IP on 
wikis that don’t have temporary accounts enabled. So what happens with 
cross-wiki edits now?
  >
  > - If IP Masking is enabled on Wikidata but not on a client wiki: Suppose an 
anonymous user makes an edit on Wikidata, with a temporary account. The edit 
affects a page on a client wiki, so it gets dispatched there, and added to the 
`recentchanges` table (type `RC_EXTERNAL`). Which actor do we assign this row 
to?
  >   - It can’t be the temporary account, because they’re not supposed to 
exist on the client wiki.
  >   - It can’t be the user’s IP address, because we don’t know it anymore 
(and shouldn’t leak it in any case).
  >   - I guess we could reassign all such edits to a system user or something? 
(But that still leaves the problem that it looks like a registered edit to the 
client wiki when it really isn’t, which IIUC was the main argument against just 
letting temporary accounts be shared via CentralAuth like they used to.)
  > - Or some kind of special IP address(es), somewhere in a private 
network block?
  > - If IP Masking is enabled on a client wiki but not on Wikidata: Suppose a 
user acquires a temporary account on a client wiki (e.g. with a normal edit), 
then edits Wikidata from the client wiki. What should happen?
  >   - I //think// there’s no actual scenario where this happens. The LinkItem 
widget is not available to unregistered users, including temporary accounts 
(see T351971 ); the data bridge is 
currently broken (T354750 ); some 
wikis have gadgets to edit Wikidata (e.g. WE-Framework 
), but temporary users won’t be able 
to enable them.
  >   - Even if there’s a way for anonymous users to edit Wikidata from a 
client wiki that I missed – it’s probably okay(ish) if the outcome is just “it 
doesn’t work”.
  >
  > Comparing these two alternatives, I wonder if we should just enable IP 
Masking on Wikidata last of all wikis, so that the first set of problems never 
applies…
  
  @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE: Some more scenarios I can think of but probably 
theoretical only:
  
  - a gadget that allows editing from the client is enabled by default and 
thereby also for non-logged-in users (at least I think they then also work for 
them...) I don't think this is a problem in practice though.
  - page moves and deletions: Do we have any wikis where non-logged-in users 
can rename or delete a page, which would then result in an automated sitelink 
edit?
  
  In general I agree that going with Wikidata last seems best right now.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-03-19 Thread JTannerWMF
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  Thanks Thal! Yes that is correct, you may get user complaints (probably from 
patrollers), if the same anon editor edits the text of an article and the 
article description. If you're okay to assume the risk we can move forward with 
that understanding and if we get complaints flag it to T Product and WMDE as 
the decision makers of the roll out process.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-03-18 Thread Tchanders
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  In T351968#9602082 , 
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote:
  
  > - I guess we could reassign all such edits to a system user or something? 
(But that still leaves the problem that it looks like a registered edit to the 
client wiki when it really isn’t, which IIUC was the main argument against just 
letting temporary accounts be shared via CentralAuth like they used to.)
  
  FWIW, we explored assigning actions to system users in T353953 
 and T334623 
 but came across problems with 
assigning many actions by many users to a single system user (which I think is 
unprecedented, but I'm happy to be corrected), e.g. when performing CheckUser 
checks. Just mentioning to highlight that we've had similar problems of who to 
attribute an action to in other places.
  
  > Comparing these two alternatives, I wonder if we should just enable IP 
Masking on Wikidata last of all wikis, so that the first set of problems never 
applies…
  
  Thanks for sharing this analysis. We're looking into some rollout options, 
but I don't think we have any opposition to Wikidata being last. Pinging 
@Niharika  and @Madalina in case they disagree.
  
  The only opposing argument I'd heard was from the mobile apps team, where I 
believe attribution becomes more complicated if the client wiki has temp 
accounts but the Wikidata doesn't (I'm hazy on the details), so we were hearing 
the opposite request: for Wikidata to be among the pilot wikis. However I've 
spoken with @JTannerWMF and my understanding is that they can work with 
Wikidata being rolled out to last.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-03-14 Thread Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE
Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment.


  There’s one more case I just thought of:
  
  - If IP Masking is enabled on a client wiki but not on Wikidata: Suppose an 
anonymous user makes an edit on Wikidata which affects a client wiki. The 
Wikidata edit is made by an IP address, but it gets dispatched to a wiki where 
IP addresses are no longer supposed to make edits. What happens?
- The answer, at least in local testing, seems to be that the IP address is 
added to the client wiki’s recentchanges, without problem, even if it’s a brand 
new IP address that wiki2 doesn’t have an actor ID for yet. So apparently this 
still works just fine. It does mean that wikis can still have IP edits in their 
recentchanges even if they have IP masking enabled, but I think that’s better 
than any alternative in this scenario. (I was worried that the change 
dispatching might crash with an error from “Cannot create an actor for an IP 
user when temporary accounts are enabled”.)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-03-05 Thread Arian_Bozorg
Arian_Bozorg closed subtask T354730: Support creating items as not-logged-in 
user when TempAccounts is enabled  as Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-03-05 Thread Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE
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  Most of the subtasks here are done, but I think there’s still a big open 
question about the rollout. In T343800 
, we found that temporary accounts, 
once created on a wiki with IP Masking enabled, were also “logged in” and 
available on other wikis via CentralAuth, which worked well for us. But this 
has changed in the meantime (T342475 
) – now, you’ll still be an IP on 
wikis that don’t have temporary accounts enabled. So what happens with 
cross-wiki edits now?
  
  - If IP Masking is enabled on Wikidata but not on a client wiki: Suppose an 
anonymous user makes an edit on Wikidata, with a temporary account. The edit 
affects a page on a client wiki, so it gets dispatched there, and added to the 
`recentchanges` table (type `RC_EXTERNAL`). Which actor do we assign this row 
to?
- It can’t be the temporary account, because they’re not supposed to exist 
on the client wiki.
- It can’t be the user’s IP address, because we don’t know it anymore (and 
shouldn’t leak it in any case).
- I guess we could reassign all such edits to a system user or something? 
(But that still leaves the problem that it looks like a registered edit to the 
client wiki when it really isn’t, which IIUC was the main argument against just 
letting temporary accounts be shared via CentralAuth like they used to.)
  - Or some kind of special IP address(es), somewhere in a private network 
block?
  - If IP Masking is enabled on a client wiki but not on Wikidata: Suppose a 
user acquires a temporary account on a client wiki (e.g. with a normal edit), 
then edits Wikidata from the client wiki. What should happen?
- I //think// there’s no actual scenario where this happens. The LinkItem 
widget is not available to unregistered users, including temporary accounts 
(see T351971 ); the data bridge is 
currently broken (T354750 ); some 
wikis have gadgets to edit Wikidata (e.g. WE-Framework 
), but temporary users won’t be able 
to enable them.
- Even if there’s a way for anonymous users to edit Wikidata from a client 
wiki that I missed – it’s probably okay(ish) if the outcome is just “it doesn’t 
work”.
  
  Comparing these two alternatives, I wonder if we should just enable IP 
Masking on Wikidata last of all wikis, so that the first set of problems never 
applies…

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-03-05 Thread Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE
Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE closed subtask T353961: Consider creating a Wikibase 
Secondary CI job with temporary accounts enabled as Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-03-01 Thread Arian_Bozorg
Arian_Bozorg closed subtask T357020: [DOT] Perform necessary redirects after 
creating temporary account in Wikidata-related extensions as 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-03-01 Thread Arian_Bozorg
Arian_Bozorg closed subtask T355076: Adjust Wikibase repo to not leak IPs when 
editing and IP masking is enabled as Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-03-01 Thread Arian_Bozorg
Arian_Bozorg closed subtask T357404: [DOT] Termbox v2 / mobile termbox 
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2024-02-22 Thread Arian_Bozorg
Arian_Bozorg added a subtask: T355076: Adjust Wikibase repo to not leak IPs 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-02-13 Thread ArthurTaylor
ArthurTaylor added a subtask: T357404: Termbox v2 / mobile termbox anonymous 
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2024-02-06 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher closed subtask T351971: Check if client LinkItem widget leaks 
IP on the repo of the edited Item as Resolved.

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2024-02-02 Thread Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE
Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE reopened subtask T354730: Support creating items as 
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2024-02-01 Thread Arian_Bozorg
Arian_Bozorg closed subtask T354730: Support creating items as not-logged-in 
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2024-02-01 Thread Arian_Bozorg
Arian_Bozorg closed subtask T353807: Stop showing IP warning when editing using 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-02-01 Thread karapayneWMDE
karapayneWMDE removed a subtask: T351976: Remember termbox collapse state for 
temporary accounts.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-01-28 Thread Arian_Bozorg
Arian_Bozorg closed subtask T351973: Stop showing create an account message on 
Lexeme editing UI for Wikibase instances that have temporary accounts enabled 
as Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-01-28 Thread Arian_Bozorg
Arian_Bozorg closed subtask T351974: Stop showing create an account message on 
EntitySchema editing UI for Wikibase instances that have temporary accounts 
enabled as Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-01-24 Thread Arian_Bozorg
Arian_Bozorg closed subtask T351970: [EPIC] Stop showing IP warning on 
SpecialPages for Wikibase instances that have temporary accounts enabled as 
Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-01-24 Thread Arian_Bozorg
Arian_Bozorg closed subtask T351977: Remember license note confirmation for 
temporary accounts as Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-01-10 Thread Arian_Bozorg
Arian_Bozorg closed subtask T351969: Stop showing IP warning on Item and 
Property pages for Wikibase instances that have temporary accounts enabled as 
Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2024-01-10 Thread ArthurTaylor
ArthurTaylor added a subtask: T354730: Support creating items as not-logged-in 
user when TempAccounts is enabled .

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2023-12-19 Thread ArthurTaylor
ArthurTaylor moved this task from Unified DOT Backlog  to Wikidata.org Slice on 
the Wikidata Dev Team board.
ArthurTaylor edited projects, added Wikidata Dev Team (Wikidata.org Slice); 
removed Wikidata Dev Team.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2023-11-26 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.


  Anything major I forgot based on the investigation?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T351968: Update Wikidata-related extensions for IP Masking

2023-11-26 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher created this task.
Lydia_Pintscher added projects: Temporary accounts, Wikidata Dev Team, 
wmde-wikidata-tech, Wikidata.
Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper.

TASK DESCRIPTION
  IP masking is coming and based on the investigation in T328454 
 we have a number of changes to 
make. They are tracked in the subtickets of this ticket.

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