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Dear all, a full English translation of Wikimedia Deutschland's 2011 annual report[1] is available at Wikimedia Commons. Giving you a 40-page equivalent to the German original report[2] (instead of a summary) is a first for Wikimedia Deutschland. [1] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/WMDE_2011_Annual_Report_web.pdf [2] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Wikimedia_Deutschland_T%C3%A4tigkeitsbericht_2011.pdf Regards, Michael -- Michael Jahn Public Relations / Öffentlichkeitsarbeit Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstraße 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de http://www.wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch freien Zugang zu der Gesamtheit des Wissens der Menschheit hat. Helfen Sie uns dabei! *Helfen Sie mit, dass WIKIPEDIA von der UNESCO als erstes digitales Weltkulturerbe anerkannt wird. Unterzeichnen Sie die Online-Petition:* http://wikipedia.de/wke/Main_Page?setlang=de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: My middle one can very briefly go online alone to a few sites I've already agreed to, and I check up on her a lot. Is Wikipedia one of those few sites? Yes, actually, along with several other educational ones, some with children's games, her school website, etc. The chances that she would randomly stumble across a sexual image on Wikipedia are -vanishingly- slim, Really? How old are we talking about? And what do you mean randomly stumble across? I don't think it would be random. It would be one link leads to another, leads to another, leads to another... Also, how do you deal with the external links? Do you have any type of blocking software set up, or does your daughter recognize the different shades of blue and know that she's not allowed to click on the blues of a lighter shade without permission? and quite realistically, if it were to happen, I would much rather it occur in the context of a dispassionate article giving a frank but rather dry account of what it means, than a porn site with flashing banners and descriptions designed to shock, titillate, etc. Wikipedia is better than a porn site. But better than a porn site doesn't mean it's necessarily a place I'd like my child to go to to learn about a sexual topic. Her main interest is in dinosaurs, horses, and veterinary medicine, though-not exactly controversial sections of the project. You've never gotten any of the tough questions? The ones that I claim, and you don't seem to deny, are not best answered by a Wikipedia article. But the whole point is, that's -my- job, not anyone else's, just like it's my job to teach them how to drive, not everyone else's to get the hell off the road before they start to. Why are we figuring this to be any different? Well, surely it is different. If you leave your keys in your car with the car running, and my ten year old hops in and takes it for a joyride, you don't think you're partially responsible for what happens? My ten year old kid isn't stupid enough to do that. If yours is, you failed long before they got in the driver's seat. Well, I don't have a ten-year-old kid, let alone one that would hop into a car and go for a joyride. But hypothetically speaking, maybe s/he has a mental disability which is not a failure of mine at all. So no, I wouldn't particularly feel responsible-if your kid is that immature and prone to rash behavior, you shouldn't have let them out of your sight. Well, first of all, every parent has to, at some point, let their kid out of their sight (if nothing else, at some point they have to sleep). So, the failure is not necessarily that of the parent. It could be the failure of the baby-sitter, or the failure of the school bus driver, or the action of a kidnapper, or any of a number of other possibilities. But, in any case, my point is not that the current caregiver of the child is not at fault. My point is that the person who left their car running, unattended, with the doors unlocked, in it is *also* at fault. The law would certainly agree with me on this. I guess you would disagree with this aspect of law? The question, really, is whether or not Wikipedia (or, at least, a cordoned off section of Wikipedia) wants to be one of those safe places. And like I said, and have seen with my own kids, the vast majority of it is. I would wager that a far higher percentage of Wikipedia is child-safe than the percentage of the Internet at large. Well, yes, if you go by word count or article count. If you go by number of pageviews, I'm not so sure. There are large portions of Wikipedia which are perfectly safe for Wikipedia, and also completely ignored by almost everyone. I have no problem recommending that my kids go read a Wikipedia article on something they're curious about, and then go look at the sources cited in it for more information. So, you'd let them go on the Internet unsupervised. If someone wants to make a Kidopedia, with everything nuked out that they consider child-unfriendly, more power to them. They're welcome to host that wherever they like. They could even work at having the project in language aimed more at children, and perhaps making a point to cite children's education sources in articles in addition to newspapers, science journals, etc. This is free content, and someone's absolutely welcome to go and do that. But that's not -this- project, its aim is to be comprehensive. What exactly do you mean by this project? Are you talking about Wikipedia, or about WMF in general? WMF already does have a Kidopedia of sorts - Wikijunior. If you hire a babysitter, sure, it becomes their job-they accepted it as such. The same if you have family, etc., who help with your children, as well as
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, actually, along with several other educational ones, some with children's games, her school website, etc. The chances that she would randomly stumble across a sexual image on Wikipedia are -vanishingly- slim, ... There is another aspect to this, which is that Wikipedia presently gives undue weight to the weird, bizarre and even the completely made-up. To give an example: every kid will look up the word fuck at some point in their lives. Wikipedia offers, at the bottom of that article, the sexual slang template http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sexual_slang with links to (partly illustrated) articles on a whole slew of weird and obscure practices, while missing out many of the slang terms ordinary people actually use in the bedroom. Basically, it's urban dictionary, written for the lulz, rather than sex education. Even the article on the humble gel bracelet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gel_bracelet contains more about a sexual urban legend than anything else, and it too comes with a template offering helpful links to Wikipedia's bizarre world of sex. Larry recently illustrated another way in which kids can come across Wikimedia's wealth of sexual media: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE4Z9qunAc4 As Seth Finkelstein pointed out the other day, there is opposition to pornography both from the right, on a family values basis, and from the left, from feminists countering male bias. These are quite separate, but equally valid concerns. It's not for nothing for example that Anita Sarkeesian's article was vandalised with porn. Male-fantasy porn expresses male dominance; in this case, it was used to emphatically reassert that dominance, because Sarkeesian had threatened it. It's as symbolic as the babe calendar on the office wall: it signals that women don't have much to say in that office, and can be greeted with cat calls or put-downs. I am not against pornography per se. I just wish that if the projects have it, they'd handle it responsibly, the way everybody else does quite naturally. That means with respect for subject privacy, gender issues, child protection issues, and so forth. Just be professional about it and follow best practice. Andreas ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Afripedia, a project to help the development of Wikipedia in French-speaking Africa
Wow! This is such an interesting and cool project and I wish you all the best with it! It would be truly wonderful if Wikipedia finally could get a better coverage about Africa! John Andersson Wikimedia Sweden From: adrienne.a...@wikimedia.fr Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:47:14 +0200 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Afripedia, a project to help the development of Wikipedia in French-speaking Africa Hello, Wikimedia France is very happy to announce a great new project : A partnership has been formalized on last Friday between Wikimédia France, the Institut Français http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_fran%C3%A7ais(the network of the french cultural institutes in the world) and the Agence Universitaire de la Francophoniehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agence_universitaire_de_la_Francophonie(Association of Universities of the Francophonie) to support a common program about the development of Wikipedia in French-speaking Africa: this project is called Afripedia. Afripedia is a project to support the digital development of Africa. While the most part of the contributions and contributors on Wikipedia are from the North, we want to make easier the offline reading of Wikipedia and the production of content about Africa and made by African contributors. The project entails projected workshops to help use the encyclopedia and produce content on the Wikimedia projects. Based on the offline technologies developped by Kiwixhttp://www.kiwix.org/index.php/Main_Page/en(and helped by Kiwix), the project will involve several phases: 1/ software development to produce offline versions of Wikipedia (and probably other Wikimedia projects like Wiktionary) regularly and easily, and then a download solution to get these offline versions easier, with no technical ability needed. 2/ Installation of these offline versions on flash drives, plugged on little computers extremely energy-efficient, without screen or keyboard. The computer spreads the content of the flash drive (=Wikipedia) with a wireless connection without internet (the content of the flash drive is available just by connecting to this wifi) [see [[Plug computerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug_computer ]] 3/ Installation of the computers and flash drives and training of students and professors on the Digital campus of Francophonie, a network of digital points supported by the Association of Universities of the Francophonie, to support the dissemination of Wikipedia content without the issues of irregular access to internet. One plug (with or without repeater) can provide Wikipedia for dozens of students ! 4/ Training in contribution on Wikipedia (in French and local languages) 5/ After a first implementation (autumn 2012) in 20 points in 15 countries of West Africa, we will assess the project and extend it over a larger scale for 2013, if the results are good. As it is one of our missions, we consider producing free knowledge in French and in local languages and making it accesible in territories developping access to digital technology but having no active Wikimedia community yet, to be essential. So we will also support the forming of contributors communities in these countries. See also (in french) http://www.wikimedia.fr/afripedia == The Institut Français is the operator for the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs in charge of the cultural action in foreign countries. Through its French Language Department, the Institut Français works towards the attractivity and spreading of French language across the world. It particularly takes care of the development of the teaching of French language and culture in secondary school and in universities. http://www.institutfrancais.com/ The Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (Association of Universities of the Francophonie) groups 786 higher education and research institutions from 98 countries on the five continents, using French language as a language for teaching and research. Its mission is to contribute to the solidarity between French-speaking higher education establishments and to the development of a scientific arena in French, respecting the cultures and languages diversity. http://www.auf.org/ -- Adrienne Charmet-Alix Directrice des programmes - Wikimedia France Twitter : @AdrienneAlix adrienne.a...@wikimedia.fr | 07.62.92.42.01 http://www.wikimedia.fr ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, actually, along with several other educational ones, some with
children's games, her school website, etc. The chances that she would
randomly stumble across a sexual image on Wikipedia are -vanishingly-
slim, ...
There is another aspect to this, which is that Wikipedia presently gives
undue weight to the weird, bizarre and even the completely made-up. To give
an example: every kid will look up the word fuck at some point in their
lives. Wikipedia offers, at the bottom of that article, the sexual slang
template
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sexual_slang
with links to (partly illustrated) articles on a whole slew of weird and
obscure practices, while missing out many of the slang terms ordinary
people actually use in the bedroom. Basically, it's urban dictionary,
written for the lulz, rather than sex education.
{{sofixit}}, just like any area with NPOV/undue weight issues.
Even the article on the humble gel bracelet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gel_bracelet
contains more about a sexual urban legend than anything else, and it too
comes with a template offering helpful links to Wikipedia's bizarre world
of sex.
It's well known for that. Like it or not, that's the aspect of them
that most sources write about. That's not in that case undue weight,
it's -due- weight.
Larry recently illustrated another way in which kids can come across
Wikimedia's wealth of sexual media:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE4Z9qunAc4
Good for him. Care to summarize his argument? I don't particularly
care to watch his video, or for him in general after the
OHNOESVIRGINKILLERIMAGE!!! hysteria a while back.
As Seth Finkelstein pointed out the other day, there is opposition to
pornography both from the right, on a family values basis, and from the
left, from feminists countering male bias. These are quite separate, but
equally valid concerns.
And like anything, we should catalog and report on the debate over the
issue in articles about it, accurately summarizing reliable sources
with due weight for each position, without as a project actually
taking a position ourselves.
It's not for nothing for example that Anita Sarkeesian's article was
vandalised with porn. Male-fantasy porn expresses male dominance; in this
case, it was used to emphatically reassert that dominance, because
Sarkeesian had threatened it. It's as symbolic as the babe calendar on the
office wall: it signals that women don't have much to say in that office,
and can be greeted with cat calls or put-downs.
Alright, so someone is both a vandal and a jerk. I'm not seeing the
relevance in that, to a discussion about having sexual images in
articles where they -are- germane and on topic. Could you please
clarify that?
I am not against pornography per se. I just wish that if the projects have
it, they'd handle it responsibly, the way everybody else does quite
naturally. That means with respect for subject privacy, gender issues,
child protection issues, and so forth. Just be professional about it and
follow best practice.
You are, of course, starting from the presumption that the way you
want to do it -is- the responsible way, or what have you. I have no
problem with developing best practices, and certainly I don't think
anyone will argue that we should host or retain porn or near-porn
involving kids, but you want a very strict practice. A lot of us
disagree to that, and really don't want to treat such images
significantly differently from others, so long as they clearly involve
adults. I think we could also develop privacy best practices, such
that the subject of a photo must either be: a) Unidentifiable (or
rendered unidentifiable), b) Show clear awareness that they are being
photographed, or c) Give an explicit release. But I don't think c) is
necessary if a) or b) are satisfied.
Andreas
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked principle of least surprise for the image filter?
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote:
{{sofixit}}, just like any area with NPOV/undue weight issues.
The next day someone will fix it back. - Douglas Hofstadter
Good for him. Care to summarize his argument? I don't particularly
care to watch his video, or for him in general after the
OHNOESVIRGINKILLERIMAGE!!! hysteria a while back.
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
You are, of course, starting from the presumption that the way you
want to do it -is- the responsible way, or what have you.
As opposed to what, assuming that the way we want to do it is the
irresponsible way?
If I thought the way I wanted to do something was irresponsible, I
wouldn't want to do it that way any more!
I have no
problem with developing best practices, and certainly I don't think
anyone will argue that we should host or retain porn or near-porn
involving kids
Certainly some people will argue this. I believe that, fortunately,
most of them are banned, though.
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Highlights for May 2012 now available in العربية (Arabic), dansk (Danish), français (French), 日本語 (Japanese), македонски (Macedonian), Nederland
The following translation are now available for the May 2012 Wikimedia Highlights, which combine some of the most relevant information from the Wikimedia Foundation Report and the Wikimedia engineering report for May with a selection of other important events from the Wikimedia movement. Help is welcome in spreading the translated versions among the project communities for these languages, where this has not already been done. Many thanks to all translators! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights,_May_2012/tr Mayıs 2012 Vikimedya Vakfı Raporu ve Vikimedya mühendislik raporu ile diğer önemli Vikimedya hareketi etkinliklerinden oluşan bülten https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights,_May_2012/ru Важные новости из отчёта Фонда Викимедиа за май 2012 и технического отчёта за май 2012 года, с подборкой важнейших событий движения Викимедиа https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights,_May_2012/nl Dit zijn de hoogtepunten uit de Wikimedia Foundationrapportage en de Wikimedia technische rapportage voor mei 2012, aangevuld met een selectie van andere belangrijke gebeurtenissen binnen de Wikimediabeweging. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights,_May_2012/mk Значајни новости од Извештајот на Фондацијата Викимедија и Инженерскиот извештај на Викимедија за месец мај 2012, со избор на други поважни збиднувања во движењето Викимедија https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights,_May_2012/ja 2012年5月のウィキメディア財団報告書及びウィキメディア技報の抄録ほかウィキメディア運動の重要行事について https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights,_May_2012/fr Temps forts du rapport de la Wikimedia Foundation et du rapport d’ingénierie Wikimédia pour mai 2012, avec une sélection d’autres événements importants du mouvement Wikimédia. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights,_May_2012/da Hovedpunkter fra Wikimedia Foundations månedsrapport for maj 2012 og Wikimedias tekniske rapport for maj 2012 med et udvalg af andre betydningsfulde hændelser i Wikimedia-bevægelsen https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights,_May_2012/ar مقتطفات من تقرير مؤسسة ويكيميديا و تقرير القسم التقني في ويكيميديا لشهر مايو 2012، ومختارات من أحداث هامة من حركة ويكيميديا Of course further translations continue to be welcome at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights,_May_2012 . -- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
