Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

[Robert West]

The manual says 2 days.  But it depends on altitude and ambient temperature.


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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 22:48 -0500, Robert West wrote: 
> You can put all that and a couple of kittens in there.  Those Rootennas
> rock, man!

LOL.  How long do the kittys have to stay before they're ready to eat?
MM.  Mikrowave kittens.  :-)

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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

[Butch Evans]

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 22:48 -0500, Robert West wrote: 
> You can put all that and a couple of kittens in there.  Those Rootennas
> rock, man!

LOL.  How long do the kittys have to stay before they're ready to eat?
MM.  Mikrowave kittens.  :-)

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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[John Thomas]

Cisco 1200 series will plug right in

John

AJ wrote:
> Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:
>
> http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php
>
> chop
> *Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
> *The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption.  Our firmware
> adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP.
> /chop
>
>
> Pretty spendy for just a single unit...
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker wrote:
>
>   
>> In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
>> Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.
>>
>> Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
>>> has been "in just a couple of weeks" for at least the last two months.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jayson Baker wrote:
>>>   
 UBNT Bullet M2?

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:


 
> I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> 802.11b.
>
> 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
>
> 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
>   
>> and
>> 
> WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
>
> 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
>
> You input is helpful.
>
> TIA,
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> Pat
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Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

[John Thomas]

Also HP had 100 VG AnyLAN that used 4 wires.

John


Jerry Richardson wrote:
> There was a technology that used all 4 pairs. It was a proprietary solution 
> that put Video on one set and data on the other. Broadxxx or something like 
> that.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:01 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5
>
> Don't think so, pretty confident gigabit is 2 pair still.  Could be wrong...
>
> On 11/18/09, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>   
>> I believe 100 megs requires 2 pair and Gig requires all 4 pair in addition
>> to certain quality measures.
>>
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>> -
>> Mike Hammett
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>> http://www.ics-il.com
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>> From: "Robert West" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:58 PM
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5
>>
>> 
>>> Phone line is twisted pair and normally 2 pair.  Transmit and receive.
>>> Can
>>> easily do 100mbps.  You could even get it to do gigabit with not much
>>> effort.  No PoE though, no pair for that. HOWEVER, the problems come from
>>> the nasty connections everyone including the phone company has made.  Most
>>> phone line isn't "clean" like a network cable you would run.  Who knows
>>> where the hell the splices and rodent chewed ends are at and if they stick
>>> with a common wiring scheme throughout the structure.  If it was the best
>>> option, you could at least test and give up quickly if it fell on its
>>> face.
>>>
>>> There used to be some home networking nics that used the phone lines in
>>> the
>>> home and you could also use the phones with the things connected.  That
>>> was
>>> in the late 1990's, early 2000.  Some Gateway desktops came with them.  I
>>> never saw them used though.
>>>
>>> Bob-
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of RickG
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:02 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5
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>>> That would be great! But, I cant find anything on the net except
>>> references
>>> to the standard being 10Mbps:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable
>>> Any examples?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Neal  wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old barbwire!

 -Kevin


 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG  wrote:
 
> 100Mbps on cat 3? Really?
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy
> wrote:
>
>   
>> We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the house.
>> My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the
>> same
>> as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone line?
>> Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal wiring
>> is
>> virtually unused.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Forbes
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

[AJ]

I used to use Coax-seal on everything... Finally discovered CANUSA and won't
ever turn back... Great seal and just takes a decent razor blade to remove
with no residue... Just gotta remember to put it on the coax line *before*
you tighten the fitting... Doh lol.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM, RickG  wrote:

> Yes -  hate the mess but seals the best!
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM,  wrote:
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> > On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote:
> >
> > > CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :)
> > >
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> > >
> > >> No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by
> > itself.
> > >> You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not
> > getting
> > >> wet you are lucky. Plain and simple.
> > >>
> > >> Bob
> > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> > >> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52
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> > >>
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> > 10
> > >> foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.
> > >>
> > >> We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and
> none
> > of
> > >> them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain
> > nameless
> > >> forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the
> > >> pre-made
> > >> I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up
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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

[Robert West]

You can put all that and a couple of kittens in there.  Those Rootennas
rock, man!

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 19:15 -0500, Jerry Richardson wrote: 
> My thought is to use a MT411AR + R52 in a 5GHz Rootenna with an N
connector 
> installed in the bottom of the enclosure for an Omni.
> 
> Having never worked with these specific parts I want to make sure there is

> room in the bottom of the enclosure for a bulkhead mount N connector.

This should work just fine, Jerry.  I've built several units just like
that and there is easily enough room for what you want.

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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[RickG]

Nice! Let us know how you like it.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM, AJ  wrote:

> Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:
>
> http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php
>
> chop
> *Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
> *The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption.  Our
> firmware
> adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP.
> /chop
>
>
> Pretty spendy for just a single unit...
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker  >wrote:
>
> > In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
> > Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.
> >
> > Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat  wrote:
> >
> > > Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1
> which
> > > has been "in just a couple of weeks" for at least the last two months.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jayson Baker wrote:
> > > > UBNT Bullet M2?
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> > > >> 802.11b.
> > > >>
> > > >> 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
> > > >>
> > > >> 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
> > and
> > > >> WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't
> upgraded)
> > > >>
> > > >> 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
> > > >>
> > > >> You input is helpful.
> > > >>
> > > >> TIA,
> > > >>
> > > >> Pat
> > > >>
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

[RickG]

Yes -  hate the mess but seals the best!

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM,  wrote:

> Coax-seal
> On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote:
>
> > CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :)
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM,  wrote:
> >
> >> No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by
> itself.
> >> You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not
> getting
> >> wet you are lucky. Plain and simple.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: "MDK" 
> >> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
> >>
> >>
> >> I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry
> them.
> >> Anyone out west have these?
> >>
> >> Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built
> 10
> >> foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.
> >>
> >> We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none
> of
> >> them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain
> nameless
> >> forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the
> >> pre-made
> >> I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up
> in a
> >> real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of
> them
> >> have had issues.
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

[Butch Evans]

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 19:15 -0500, Jerry Richardson wrote: 
> My thought is to use a MT411AR + R52 in a 5GHz Rootenna with an N connector 
> installed in the bottom of the enclosure for an Omni.
> 
> Having never worked with these specific parts I want to make sure there is 
> room in the bottom of the enclosure for a bulkhead mount N connector.

This should work just fine, Jerry.  I've built several units just like
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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

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Should be if not on the back.  Shoot www.jeffcosoho.com a call or e-mail
me off list and I can get that assembled, tested, built and upgraded for
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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

Looking at using MT in a small public WiFi setup. The topology is going
to be a 5.7GHz WDS PMP from the top of a 10-story building looking down
onto the streets with 2.4 client access at street level. Initially this
will not be a mesh but I may implement MT's MME later.

My thought is to use a MT411AR + R52 in a 5GHz Rootenna with an N
connector installed in the bottom of the enclosure for an Omni.

Having never worked with these specific parts I want to make sure there
is room in the bottom of the enclosure for a bulkhead mount N connector.

Thoughts? Comments?

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[WISPA] MikroTik setup

[Jerry Richardson]

Looking at using MT in a small public WiFi setup. The topology is going to be a 
5.7GHz WDS PMP from the top of a 10-story building looking down onto the 
streets with 2.4 client access at street level. Initially this will not be a 
mesh but I may implement MT's MME later.

My thought is to use a MT411AR + R52 in a 5GHz Rootenna with an N connector 
installed in the bottom of the enclosure for an Omni.

Having never worked with these specific parts I want to make sure there is room 
in the bottom of the enclosure for a bulkhead mount N connector.

Thoughts? Comments?

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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[Mike]

Some old Palm devices.  Recently a Dell pre 2003 that you couldn't 
even update.  No new stuff, but there are still a lot of wep only 
devices out there.

At 05:58 PM 11/19/2009, you wrote:
>What "devices" don't do WPA in today's world?
>
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>
>"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>--- Albert Einstein
>
>
>On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Mike  wrote:
>
> > Most Atheros radios I've seen can have an AP and a "virtual AP."  I
> > have one set up in my office.  One SSID leads to WEP encryption and
> > different router rules.  The other is WPA, virtual, and privileged;
> > for full network access.  Some of our "devices" don't do wpa nicely.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > At 04:12 PM 11/19/2009, you wrote:
> > >WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.
> > >
> > >Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?
> > >
> > >Josh Luthman
> > >Office: 937-552-2340
> > >Direct: 937-552-2343
> > >1100 Wayne St
> > >Suite 1337
> > >Troy, OH 45373
> > >
> > >"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> > >--- Albert Einstein
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker  > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > UBNT Bullet M2?
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> > > > > 802.11b.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
> > and
> > > > > WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
> > > > >
> > > > > 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
> > > > >
> > > > > You input is helpful.
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pat
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[Jonathan Schmidt]

Old ones.
. . . J o n a t h a n 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

What "devices" don't do WPA in today's world?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Mike  wrote:

> Most Atheros radios I've seen can have an AP and a "virtual AP."  I 
> have one set up in my office.  One SSID leads to WEP encryption and 
> different router rules.  The other is WPA, virtual, and privileged; 
> for full network access.  Some of our "devices" don't do wpa nicely.
>
> Mike
>
> At 04:12 PM 11/19/2009, you wrote:
> >WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.
> >
> >Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?
> >
> >Josh Luthman
> >Office: 937-552-2340
> >Direct: 937-552-2343
> >1100 Wayne St
> >Suite 1337
> >Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> >--- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker  >wrote:
> >
> > > UBNT Bullet M2?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only 
> > > > does 802.11b.
> > > >
> > > > 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
> > > >
> > > > 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of 
> > > > WEP
> and
> > > > WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't 
> > > > upgraded)
> > > >
> > > > 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
> > > >
> > > > You input is helpful.
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > >
> > > > Pat
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[Josh Luthman]

What "devices" don't do WPA in today's world?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Mike  wrote:

> Most Atheros radios I've seen can have an AP and a "virtual AP."  I
> have one set up in my office.  One SSID leads to WEP encryption and
> different router rules.  The other is WPA, virtual, and privileged;
> for full network access.  Some of our "devices" don't do wpa nicely.
>
> Mike
>
> At 04:12 PM 11/19/2009, you wrote:
> >WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.
> >
> >Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?
> >
> >Josh Luthman
> >Office: 937-552-2340
> >Direct: 937-552-2343
> >1100 Wayne St
> >Suite 1337
> >Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> >--- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker  >wrote:
> >
> > > UBNT Bullet M2?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> > > > 802.11b.
> > > >
> > > > 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
> > > >
> > > > 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
> and
> > > > WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
> > > >
> > > > 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
> > > >
> > > > You input is helpful.
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

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On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote:

> CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :)
> 
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself.
>> You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting
>> wet you are lucky. Plain and simple.
>> 
>> Bob
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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>> -Original Message-
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>> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52
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>> Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
>> 
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>> I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
>> Anyone out west have these?
>> 
>> Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10
>> foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.
>> 
>> We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of
>> them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless
>> forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the
>> pre-made
>> I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

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CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :)

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM,  wrote:

> No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself.
>  You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting
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> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52
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> Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
>
>
>  I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
> Anyone out west have these?
>
> Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10
> foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.
>
> We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of
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> pre-made
> I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

[lakeland]

No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself.  You 
need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you 
are lucky. Plain and simple.

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 
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Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors


I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. 
Anyone out west have these?

Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 
foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.

We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of 
them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless 
forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made 
I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a 
real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them 
have had issues.

 




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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

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Most Atheros radios I've seen can have an AP and a "virtual AP."  I 
have one set up in my office.  One SSID leads to WEP encryption and 
different router rules.  The other is WPA, virtual, and privileged; 
for full network access.  Some of our "devices" don't do wpa nicely.

Mike

At 04:12 PM 11/19/2009, you wrote:
>WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.
>
>Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?
>
>Josh Luthman
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>On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker wrote:
>
> > UBNT Bullet M2?
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
> >
> > > I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> > > 802.11b.
> > >
> > > 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
> > >
> > > 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
> > > WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
> > >
> > > 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
> > >
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

[Scott Reed]

Tessco is where I get them.
I have them make up cables and have not had any problems with them

MDK wrote:
> I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. 
> Anyone out west have these?
>
> Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 
> foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.
>
> We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of 
> them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless 
> forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made 
> I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a 
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Re: [WISPA] Low gain 2.4GHz vertical omni recommendation for use with a bullet M

[os10rules]

Thanks! I just bought one a week ago to give it a try but it hasn't arrived yet.

Greg

On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

> I've several 9dbi Pac ones out there.  I like how the bottom of the antenna
> has a good 3' metal piece to put two hose clamps.  Weather has never
> effected any one of my omnis - my install or anyone else - in 2 or 3 years.
> 
> CTI had a special on them recently, just in time for a campgrounds hotspot.
> May want to see if they're still on sale.
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> 
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> --- Albert Einstein
> 
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> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:49 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> I'd like to know what folks recommend for a plain jane low gain  2.4GHz
>> omni. No downtilt. Gain around 7-13 dbi but something solid for outdoor use.
>> This is to use with a Bullet2HP M.
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Re: [WISPA] Intermittant connectivity

[Ryan Spott]

netstat -a might show you 4billion connections?

ryan

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> Ok, I went out the problem customer and switched them to bridged mode
> and set their router to do PPPoe and ShaZam, all is good. Why is this
> only happening with some of the CPQ's and not all?
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Re: [WISPA] Low gain 2.4GHz vertical omni recommendation for use with a bullet M

[Josh Luthman]

I've several 9dbi Pac ones out there.  I like how the bottom of the antenna
has a good 3' metal piece to put two hose clamps.  Weather has never
effected any one of my omnis - my install or anyone else - in 2 or 3 years.

CTI had a special on them recently, just in time for a campgrounds hotspot.
May want to see if they're still on sale.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:49 PM,  wrote:

> I'd like to know what folks recommend for a plain jane low gain  2.4GHz
> omni. No downtilt. Gain around 7-13 dbi but something solid for outdoor use.
> This is to use with a Bullet2HP M.
>
> Greg
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[WISPA] Low gain 2.4GHz vertical omni recommendation for use with a bullet M

[os10rules]

I'd like to know what folks recommend for a plain jane low gain  2.4GHz omni. 
No downtilt. Gain around 7-13 dbi but something solid for outdoor use. This is 
to use with a Bullet2HP M.

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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[Josh Luthman]

Wow do I feel dumb.  I am doing this myself at home.

Primary wireless interface - WEP
Virtual AP on said interface - WPA

I do different SSIDs, not sure how clients would react if they were the
same.

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

> MT
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> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 4:13 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP
>
> WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.
>
> Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
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> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
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>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker
> wrote:
>
> > UBNT Bullet M2?
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
> >
> > > I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> > > 802.11b.
> > >
> > > 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
> > >
> > > 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
> and
> > > WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't
> upgraded)
> > >
> > > 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
> > >
> > > You input is helpful.
> > >
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Re: [WISPA] Intermittant connectivity

[Robert West]

They hate you.  It's true.  I have units that hate me as well.  Not much I
can do about it except try to understand their issues but it still doesn't
do me any good.

In the end, a hammer works.



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Ok, I went out the problem customer and switched them to bridged mode
and set their router to do PPPoe and ShaZam, all is good. Why is this
only happening with some of the CPQ's and not all? 

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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 4:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.

Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker
wrote:

> UBNT Bullet M2?
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
>
> > I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> > 802.11b.
> >
> > 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
> >
> > 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
and
> > WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't
upgraded)
> >
> > 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
> >
> > You input is helpful.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Pat
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Intermittant connectivity

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Ok, I went out the problem customer and switched them to bridged mode
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[Robert West]

Ah  I didn't catch the WEP part.  Sucks you can't get away from that.



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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:17 PM
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Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which 
has been "in just a couple of weeks" for at least the last two months.



Jayson Baker wrote:
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> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
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>   
>> I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
>> 802.11b.
>>
>> 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
>>
>> 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
>> WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
>>
>> 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
>>
>> You input is helpful.
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[Michael Baird]

It was promised at the end of November, beta should be out this week.

Regards
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> Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which 
> has been "in just a couple of weeks" for at least the last two months.
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> Jayson Baker wrote:
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>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
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>> 
>>> I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
>>> 802.11b.
>>>
>>> 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
>>>
>>> 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
>>> WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
>>>
>>> 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
>>>
>>> You input is helpful.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>> Pat
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[pat]

Thanks George.  I follow DSLR but missed that one. 


George Morris wrote:
> Mike put up a bit of info about what's on the way in 5.1 on DSLR. Appears we
> are getting close to seeing a beta.
>
> ""Features that are in 5.1:
>
> - DynamicACK is rewritten with many improvements.
>
> - Full 802.11abg support
>
> - Full Encryption support (WEP, WPA/WPA2 AES/TKIP ect)
>
> - ACK Removal for Point to Point links
>
> - AutoRate selection Algorithm is rewritten.
>
> - New Web server for the software
>
> and a lot more.
>
> The Beta should be on the forum tommorow and the best part is the software
> will be free.
>
> Mike""
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> George 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of AJ
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:21 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP
>
> Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:
>
> http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php
>
> chop
> *Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
> *The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption.  Our firmware
> adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP.
> /chop
>
>
> Pretty spendy for just a single unit...
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker wrote:
>
>   
>> In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
>> Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.
>>
>> Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
>>> has been "in just a couple of weeks" for at least the last two months.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jayson Baker wrote:
>>>   
 UBNT Bullet M2?

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:


 
> I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> 802.11b.
>
> 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
>
> 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
>   
>> and
>> 
> WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
>
> 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
>
> You input is helpful.
>
> TIA,
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[George Morris]

Mike put up a bit of info about what's on the way in 5.1 on DSLR. Appears we
are getting close to seeing a beta.

""Features that are in 5.1:

- DynamicACK is rewritten with many improvements.

- Full 802.11abg support

- Full Encryption support (WEP, WPA/WPA2 AES/TKIP ect)

- ACK Removal for Point to Point links

- AutoRate selection Algorithm is rewritten.

- New Web server for the software

and a lot more.

The Beta should be on the forum tommorow and the best part is the software
will be free.

Mike""

George 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of AJ
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:

http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php

chop
*Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
*The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption.  Our firmware
adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP.
/chop


Pretty spendy for just a single unit...

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker wrote:

> In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
> Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.
>
> Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat  wrote:
>
> > Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
> > has been "in just a couple of weeks" for at least the last two months.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jayson Baker wrote:
> > > UBNT Bullet M2?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> > >> 802.11b.
> > >>
> > >> 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
> > >>
> > >> 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
> and
> > >> WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
> > >>
> > >> 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
> > >>
> > >> You input is helpful.
> > >>
> > >> TIA,
> > >>
> > >> Pat
> > >>
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[pat]

 I have 3 AP's with Cisco Aironet 1250's that handle both WEP and WPA at 
the same time, and do it very well.


Josh Luthman wrote:
> WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.
>
> Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?
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> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker wrote:
>
>   
>> UBNT Bullet M2?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
>>> 802.11b.
>>>
>>> 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
>>>
>>> 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
>>> WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
>>>
>>> 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
>>>
>>> You input is helpful.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[AJ]

Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:

http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php

chop
*Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
*The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption.  Our firmware
adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP.
/chop


Pretty spendy for just a single unit...

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker wrote:

> In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
> Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.
>
> Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat  wrote:
>
> > Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
> > has been "in just a couple of weeks" for at least the last two months.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jayson Baker wrote:
> > > UBNT Bullet M2?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> > >> 802.11b.
> > >>
> > >> 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
> > >>
> > >> 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
> and
> > >> WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
> > >>
> > >> 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
> > >>
> > >> You input is helpful.
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

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In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.

Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat  wrote:

> Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
> has been "in just a couple of weeks" for at least the last two months.
>
>
>
> Jayson Baker wrote:
> > UBNT Bullet M2?
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> >> 802.11b.
> >>
> >> 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
> >>
> >> 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
> >> WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
> >>
> >> 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
> >>
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> >> TIA,
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[pat]

Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which 
has been "in just a couple of weeks" for at least the last two months.



Jayson Baker wrote:
> UBNT Bullet M2?
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
>
>   
>> I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
>> 802.11b.
>>
>> 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
>>
>> 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
>> WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
>>
>> 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
>>
>> You input is helpful.
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

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WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.

Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker wrote:

> UBNT Bullet M2?
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:
>
> > I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> > 802.11b.
> >
> > 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
> >
> > 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
> > WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
> >
> > 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
> >
> > You input is helpful.
> >
> > TIA,
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[Robert West]

I vote for that as well.  Cheap and easy.



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UBNT Bullet M2?

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:

> I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> 802.11b.
>
> 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
>
> 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
> WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
>
> 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
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> You input is helpful.
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> TIA,
>
> Pat
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

[Jayson Baker]

UBNT Bullet M2?

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat  wrote:

> I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
> 802.11b.
>
> 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
>
> 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
> WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
>
> 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
>
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[WISPA] Need a new AP

[pat]

I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does 
802.11b. 

1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.

2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and 
WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)

3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.

You input is helpful.

TIA,

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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

[eje]

Rfantennadesign.com 

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-Original Message-
From: "MDK" 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:15:32 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

I believe Advanced Antenna bought out the old Equinox company, and now it 
appears they, too, have gone belly-up - or at least the old website is now 
gone (www.advancedantennainc.com).Perhaps now there's yet another 
operating under the old brand, or maybe they changed websites and I can't 
find the new one.

Over the years I've used a number of their antennas, and they were by far, 
the most troublesome I have used.   They were even heavier than the 
pacwireless, and used the same flimsy bracket, with the dipole attached to 
the BRACKET not the dish, and the L shaped bracket would bend in the wind, 
leaving the dish and dipole out of alignment.We actually engineered a 
cable retention system we used on both theirs and PW's large grids to keep 
them pointed properly in high winds.

They finally upgraded to a much heavier gauge bracket, but the design flaw 
remained. Then sometime later, I bought a boxful of 2.4 samples (from 
low to high gain), and found they simply weren't worth messing with.   2 out 
of 5 had bad dipoles - one failed on install, the other failed a few months 
later.The price was very cheap, however.   And, they did appear to have 
roughly the gain they claimed.

I took the dipoles apart and found that the construction was beyond bad. 
They were just crude and poorly constructed and poorly designed in every way 
eXCEPT the dipole printed on a PCB, which was very nicely done.
THAT was my experience with the Equinox branded antennas.

Later, I got quotes from Advanced Antenna, and bought bunch of the j-arm 
universal mounts, which were great.Upon calling back, I got my call 
answered by the same guy who used to be at Equinox...   They raised the 
prices of their antennas above pacwireless, so I never bought a thing from 
them except j arm mounts.

Some of the equinox guys left and started their own company,  and I recall 
they had a new name and new location, but I never bought anything from them, 
since my biggest use of antennas is 5 ghz and theirs cost more than 
Pacwireless.   I no longer recall the name they operated under.

Lately, I've used a bunch of Arcwireless panels with the enclosure on the 
back, and the performance from those has been better than any grids I've 
used.Not to mention that compex finally got their certifications done a 
few years ago and that was the antenna of choice :)

 The 23 db panel gave us better RSSI than a 25 db PW grid for a given 
distance.The 2.4 panel performance is also very good.

We lately used mostly ubiquiti bullets (not hp) for cpe and have gone back 
to the PW grids, because the standalone panel antenna mounts for Arcwireless 
totally suck.They're weak,  clumsy, and even look strange.

THere are two versions of PacWireless 5 ghz grids, there's a wideband and a 
narrow band.The wideband has an attached pigtail, and is cheaper by a 
few bucks.   We've had a number of them that didn't work right, found some 
had the beam off to the side,  or other quirks, like wildly varying RSSI for 
small frequency changes.The narrow band ones have no pigtail, but have 
worked better and more reliably, but we find them VERY hard to waterproof. 
We've found that some of the pigtails built onto the grids have leaked water 
right past the shrink wrap.   A couple of temporary installs we used just 
filled themselves with water, which apparently had to come through the 
sheath of the cable, or through the shrink wrap itself.   Still, we keep 
using them by default, because we haven't found any good alternative.   If 
one of them behaves funny, we just toss it in the van and use it in some 
location that's real short distance and the gain or odd beam isn't an issue. 
Still, the water issue was a problem that I am extremely concerned about, 
though the failure rate has been small and only affects a few recent 
installs.

I got some ignition spec dielectric grease and filled the connector with it 
and it's been fine ever since...  the temp install has now made it through 
several more driving rainstorms with no issue, when it failed on the FIRST 
big rain this summer.







--
From: "3-dB Networks" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:16 PM
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

> Try Advanced Antenna... I've sold a few and have not heard any 
> complaints...
> have not seen them myself though.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:14 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>
> Hi All,
>
> What are you using 

Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

[Marlon K. Schafer]

I get mine from Hutton.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "MDK" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors


>
> I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
> Anyone out west have these?
>
> Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10
> foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.
>
> We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none 
> of
> them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless
> forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the 
> pre-made
> I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in 
> a
> real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them
> have had issues.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

[Marlon K. Schafer]

I LOVE the pac wireless j arms.  I won't buy anything else.  No one even 
comes close to the quality of those units.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "MDK" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


>I believe Advanced Antenna bought out the old Equinox company, and now it
> appears they, too, have gone belly-up - or at least the old website is now
> gone (www.advancedantennainc.com).Perhaps now there's yet another
> operating under the old brand, or maybe they changed websites and I can't
> find the new one.
>
> Over the years I've used a number of their antennas, and they were by far,
> the most troublesome I have used.   They were even heavier than the
> pacwireless, and used the same flimsy bracket, with the dipole attached to
> the BRACKET not the dish, and the L shaped bracket would bend in the wind,
> leaving the dish and dipole out of alignment.We actually engineered a
> cable retention system we used on both theirs and PW's large grids to keep
> them pointed properly in high winds.
>
> They finally upgraded to a much heavier gauge bracket, but the design flaw
> remained. Then sometime later, I bought a boxful of 2.4 samples (from
> low to high gain), and found they simply weren't worth messing with.   2 
> out
> of 5 had bad dipoles - one failed on install, the other failed a few 
> months
> later.The price was very cheap, however.   And, they did appear to 
> have
> roughly the gain they claimed.
>
> I took the dipoles apart and found that the construction was beyond bad.
> They were just crude and poorly constructed and poorly designed in every 
> way
> eXCEPT the dipole printed on a PCB, which was very nicely done.
> THAT was my experience with the Equinox branded antennas.
>
> Later, I got quotes from Advanced Antenna, and bought bunch of the j-arm
> universal mounts, which were great.Upon calling back, I got my call
> answered by the same guy who used to be at Equinox...   They raised the
> prices of their antennas above pacwireless, so I never bought a thing from
> them except j arm mounts.
>
> Some of the equinox guys left and started their own company,  and I recall
> they had a new name and new location, but I never bought anything from 
> them,
> since my biggest use of antennas is 5 ghz and theirs cost more than
> Pacwireless.   I no longer recall the name they operated under.
>
> Lately, I've used a bunch of Arcwireless panels with the enclosure on the
> back, and the performance from those has been better than any grids I've
> used.Not to mention that compex finally got their certifications done 
> a
> few years ago and that was the antenna of choice :)
>
> The 23 db panel gave us better RSSI than a 25 db PW grid for a given
> distance.The 2.4 panel performance is also very good.
>
> We lately used mostly ubiquiti bullets (not hp) for cpe and have gone back
> to the PW grids, because the standalone panel antenna mounts for 
> Arcwireless
> totally suck.They're weak,  clumsy, and even look strange.
>
> THere are two versions of PacWireless 5 ghz grids, there's a wideband and 
> a
> narrow band.The wideband has an attached pigtail, and is cheaper by a
> few bucks.   We've had a number of them that didn't work right, found some
> had the beam off to the side,  or other quirks, like wildly varying RSSI 
> for
> small frequency changes.The narrow band ones have no pigtail, but have
> worked better and more reliably, but we find them VERY hard to waterproof.
> We've found that some of the pigtails built onto the grids have leaked 
> water
> right past the shrink wrap.   A couple of temporary installs we used just
> filled themselves with water, which apparently had to come through the
> sheath of the cable, or through the shrink wrap itself.   Still, we keep
> using them by default, because we haven't found any good alternative.   If
> one of them behaves funny, we just toss it in the van and use it in some
> location that's real short distance and the gain or odd beam isn't an 
> issue.
> Still, the water issue was a problem that I am extremely concerned about,
> though the failure rate has been small and only affects a few recent
> installs.
>
> I got some ignition spec dielectric grease and filled the connector with 
> it
> and it's been fine ever since...  the temp install has now made it through
> several more driving rainstorms with no issue, when it failed on the FIRST
> big rain this summer.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> From: "3-dB Networks" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:16 PM
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>
>> Try Advanced Antenna... I've sold a few and have not heard any
>> complaints...
>> have not seen them myself though.
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.o

Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Those are Andrew antennas :-).

The ONLY difference is the subreflector.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Yunker" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


>I would have to agree with Marlon, my experience with Pacwireless grids was
> less than exceptional.  On the other hand I really like their 
> horizontal
> sectors and horizontal omnis.
>
> If you are still looking for a replacement for the Andrew 2.4Ghz 24dbi, we
> used to purchase our 24db's from Hyperlink Technologies and had good luck
> with those.
>
> Here's a link:
>
> http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22370&cmp=ALSOS
>
>
> Regards,
> Larry Yunker
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:39 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>
> In my testing they are often at least 2 or three dB less than the rating.
> They have a crappy bracket.  They are 2x heavier.
>
> Actually, there isn't anything that I DO like about them.  Been that way 
> for
>
> years.  I even tried one again a year or so ago.  yuck
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jason Hensley" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>
>
>> What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac
>> Wireless
>> ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the 
>> new
>> name) ones are being discontinued.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>> marlon
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

[3-dB Networks]

I have some EZ-400 NM on the shelf and a ton of EZ-400-FM-75's

Please hit me offlist if you like.

Daniel White
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http://www.3dbnetworks.com


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Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors


I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. 
Anyone out west have these?

Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 
foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.

We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of 
them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless 
forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made

I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a 
real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them 
have had issues.

 





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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

[Jerry Richardson]

Advanced antenna was bought by http://rfantennadesign.com/

Brackets are pretty thick and don't have near the wobble as the previous 
versions



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of MDK
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:16 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

I believe Advanced Antenna bought out the old Equinox company, and now it 
appears they, too, have gone belly-up - or at least the old website is now 
gone (www.advancedantennainc.com).Perhaps now there's yet another 
operating under the old brand, or maybe they changed websites and I can't 
find the new one.

Over the years I've used a number of their antennas, and they were by far, 
the most troublesome I have used.   They were even heavier than the 
pacwireless, and used the same flimsy bracket, with the dipole attached to 
the BRACKET not the dish, and the L shaped bracket would bend in the wind, 
leaving the dish and dipole out of alignment.We actually engineered a 
cable retention system we used on both theirs and PW's large grids to keep 
them pointed properly in high winds.

They finally upgraded to a much heavier gauge bracket, but the design flaw 
remained. Then sometime later, I bought a boxful of 2.4 samples (from 
low to high gain), and found they simply weren't worth messing with.   2 out 
of 5 had bad dipoles - one failed on install, the other failed a few months 
later.The price was very cheap, however.   And, they did appear to have 
roughly the gain they claimed.

I took the dipoles apart and found that the construction was beyond bad. 
They were just crude and poorly constructed and poorly designed in every way 
eXCEPT the dipole printed on a PCB, which was very nicely done.
THAT was my experience with the Equinox branded antennas.

Later, I got quotes from Advanced Antenna, and bought bunch of the j-arm 
universal mounts, which were great.Upon calling back, I got my call 
answered by the same guy who used to be at Equinox...   They raised the 
prices of their antennas above pacwireless, so I never bought a thing from 
them except j arm mounts.

Some of the equinox guys left and started their own company,  and I recall 
they had a new name and new location, but I never bought anything from them, 
since my biggest use of antennas is 5 ghz and theirs cost more than 
Pacwireless.   I no longer recall the name they operated under.

Lately, I've used a bunch of Arcwireless panels with the enclosure on the 
back, and the performance from those has been better than any grids I've 
used.Not to mention that compex finally got their certifications done a 
few years ago and that was the antenna of choice :)

 The 23 db panel gave us better RSSI than a 25 db PW grid for a given 
distance.The 2.4 panel performance is also very good.

We lately used mostly ubiquiti bullets (not hp) for cpe and have gone back 
to the PW grids, because the standalone panel antenna mounts for Arcwireless 
totally suck.They're weak,  clumsy, and even look strange.

THere are two versions of PacWireless 5 ghz grids, there's a wideband and a 
narrow band.The wideband has an attached pigtail, and is cheaper by a 
few bucks.   We've had a number of them that didn't work right, found some 
had the beam off to the side,  or other quirks, like wildly varying RSSI for 
small frequency changes.The narrow band ones have no pigtail, but have 
worked better and more reliably, but we find them VERY hard to waterproof. 
We've found that some of the pigtails built onto the grids have leaked water 
right past the shrink wrap.   A couple of temporary installs we used just 
filled themselves with water, which apparently had to come through the 
sheath of the cable, or through the shrink wrap itself.   Still, we keep 
using them by default, because we haven't found any good alternative.   If 
one of them behaves funny, we just toss it in the van and use it in some 
location that's real short distance and the gain or odd beam isn't an issue. 
Still, the water issue was a problem that I am extremely concerned about, 
though the failure rate has been small and only affects a few recent 
installs.

I got some ignition spec dielectric grease and filled the connector with it 
and it's been fine ever since...  the temp install has now made it through 
several more driving rainstorms with no issue, when it failed on the FIRST 
big rain this summer.







--
From: "3-dB Networks" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:16 PM
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

> Try Advanced Antenna... I've sold a few and have not heard any 
> complaints...
> have not seen them myself though.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Ma

Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Yeah, the $100 Andrew (comscope???) units!  grin  But they are now 
discontinued.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert West" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


>I second and also third that opinion on the Pac bracket.   S U C K S !
>
> I use them for backhauls and they aren't spaced too far apart so the loss 
> of
> dB isn't much of an issue with me at the moment.  Is there a grid that 
> isn't
> that much more in cost but a better value for the buck?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:39 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>
> In my testing they are often at least 2 or three dB less than the rating.
> They have a crappy bracket.  They are 2x heavier.
>
> Actually, there isn't anything that I DO like about them.  Been that way 
> for
>
> years.  I even tried one again a year or so ago.  yuck
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jason Hensley" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>
>
>> What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
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>> What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac
>> Wireless
>> ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the 
>> new
>> name) ones are being discontinued.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>> marlon
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

[Josh Luthman]

Every one I've bought from tessco and Butch has been good.  Only water
problems were dishes I didn't put up - sealer is your friend.

On 11/19/09, Marco Coelho  wrote:
> ez240 ez400 ??  What size cable, What connector on the end (N-Male)?
> I've got a bunch of ez240 and a few ez400 N Male
>
>
> Marco
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, MDK  wrote:
>>
>> I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
>> Anyone out west have these?
>>
>> Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10
>> foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.
>>
>> We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none
>> of
>> them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless
>> forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the
>> pre-made
>> I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

[Marco Coelho]

ez240 ez400 ??  What size cable, What connector on the end (N-Male)?
I've got a bunch of ez240 and a few ez400 N Male


Marco

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, MDK  wrote:
>
> I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
> Anyone out west have these?
>
> Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10
> foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.
>
> We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of
> them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless
> forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made
> I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a
> real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them
> have had issues.
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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

[Marco Coelho]

If anybody is interested, I've got about 200 2.4 GHz  24db grids (mix
of andrew and rf antenna ) some brand new some used.
We don't use these anymore.
They are located in Greenville, TX

contact me off-list if you're interested.

Marco Coelho
Argon Technologies Inc.



On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Larry Yunker
 wrote:
> I would have to agree with Marlon, my experience with Pacwireless grids was
> less than exceptional.  On the other hand I really like their horizontal
> sectors and horizontal omnis.
>
> If you are still looking for a replacement for the Andrew 2.4Ghz 24dbi, we
> used to purchase our 24db's from Hyperlink Technologies and had good luck
> with those.
>
> Here's a link:
>
> http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22370&cmp=ALSOS
>
>
> Regards,
> Larry Yunker
>
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:39 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>
> In my testing they are often at least 2 or three dB less than the rating.
> They have a crappy bracket.  They are 2x heavier.
>
> Actually, there isn't anything that I DO like about them.  Been that way for
>
> years.  I even tried one again a year or so ago.  yuck
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason Hensley" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
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>> What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
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>> Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac
>> Wireless
>> ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
>> name) ones are being discontinued.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>> marlon
>>
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[WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

[MDK]

I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. 
Anyone out west have these?

Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 
foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.

We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of 
them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless 
forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made 
I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a 
real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them 
have had issues.

 




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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

[MDK]

I believe Advanced Antenna bought out the old Equinox company, and now it 
appears they, too, have gone belly-up - or at least the old website is now 
gone (www.advancedantennainc.com).Perhaps now there's yet another 
operating under the old brand, or maybe they changed websites and I can't 
find the new one.

Over the years I've used a number of their antennas, and they were by far, 
the most troublesome I have used.   They were even heavier than the 
pacwireless, and used the same flimsy bracket, with the dipole attached to 
the BRACKET not the dish, and the L shaped bracket would bend in the wind, 
leaving the dish and dipole out of alignment.We actually engineered a 
cable retention system we used on both theirs and PW's large grids to keep 
them pointed properly in high winds.

They finally upgraded to a much heavier gauge bracket, but the design flaw 
remained. Then sometime later, I bought a boxful of 2.4 samples (from 
low to high gain), and found they simply weren't worth messing with.   2 out 
of 5 had bad dipoles - one failed on install, the other failed a few months 
later.The price was very cheap, however.   And, they did appear to have 
roughly the gain they claimed.

I took the dipoles apart and found that the construction was beyond bad. 
They were just crude and poorly constructed and poorly designed in every way 
eXCEPT the dipole printed on a PCB, which was very nicely done.
THAT was my experience with the Equinox branded antennas.

Later, I got quotes from Advanced Antenna, and bought bunch of the j-arm 
universal mounts, which were great.Upon calling back, I got my call 
answered by the same guy who used to be at Equinox...   They raised the 
prices of their antennas above pacwireless, so I never bought a thing from 
them except j arm mounts.

Some of the equinox guys left and started their own company,  and I recall 
they had a new name and new location, but I never bought anything from them, 
since my biggest use of antennas is 5 ghz and theirs cost more than 
Pacwireless.   I no longer recall the name they operated under.

Lately, I've used a bunch of Arcwireless panels with the enclosure on the 
back, and the performance from those has been better than any grids I've 
used.Not to mention that compex finally got their certifications done a 
few years ago and that was the antenna of choice :)

 The 23 db panel gave us better RSSI than a 25 db PW grid for a given 
distance.The 2.4 panel performance is also very good.

We lately used mostly ubiquiti bullets (not hp) for cpe and have gone back 
to the PW grids, because the standalone panel antenna mounts for Arcwireless 
totally suck.They're weak,  clumsy, and even look strange.

THere are two versions of PacWireless 5 ghz grids, there's a wideband and a 
narrow band.The wideband has an attached pigtail, and is cheaper by a 
few bucks.   We've had a number of them that didn't work right, found some 
had the beam off to the side,  or other quirks, like wildly varying RSSI for 
small frequency changes.The narrow band ones have no pigtail, but have 
worked better and more reliably, but we find them VERY hard to waterproof. 
We've found that some of the pigtails built onto the grids have leaked water 
right past the shrink wrap.   A couple of temporary installs we used just 
filled themselves with water, which apparently had to come through the 
sheath of the cable, or through the shrink wrap itself.   Still, we keep 
using them by default, because we haven't found any good alternative.   If 
one of them behaves funny, we just toss it in the van and use it in some 
location that's real short distance and the gain or odd beam isn't an issue. 
Still, the water issue was a problem that I am extremely concerned about, 
though the failure rate has been small and only affects a few recent 
installs.

I got some ignition spec dielectric grease and filled the connector with it 
and it's been fine ever since...  the temp install has now made it through 
several more driving rainstorms with no issue, when it failed on the FIRST 
big rain this summer.







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Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:16 PM
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

> Try Advanced Antenna... I've sold a few and have not heard any 
> complaints...
> have not seen them myself though.
>
> Daniel White
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> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:14 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>
> Hi All,
>
> What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac 
> Wireless
> ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
> name) ones are being discontinued.
>
> Suggestions?
> marlon
>
>
>
>

Re: [WISPA] Reset StarOS

[John Valenti]

Steve,
I don't know about WRAP, but for War2 boards I'm pretty sure you need  
to ssh (putty) into it, go into System ... System Console. Then type  
in "system factory".  That resets everything to factory defaults (ip  
address, passwords, everything)

You can do the same process on War1 boards, but they also have a reset  
switch that does the same thing. (little pushbutton, next to DC power  
connector I think)
-John

On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Steve Barnes wrote:

> I am changing all my network out to Mikrotik and have 8 various  
> StarOS War1, War2, and Wrap boards that I plan to sell on Ebay.  I  
> never really learned how to mess with these so is there a easy way  
> to reset all these back to factory or do I have to do it one at a  
> time with putty?  And what is the best way to clear the compact  
> flash on the Wrap boards.  With StarOS is there a easy way to do a  
> lookup for them like you do on the Mikrotik's with the ... button on  
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Re: [WISPA] X86 low power board w/3 or more ethernet

[MDK]

Low power is 10 watts or less.

This site runs on solar/wind power.The amount of power available is very 
limited.

I've been looking at multiport ethernet card/mini-itx board combinations to 
do the trick...

Awkward physically, and a little on the large size for power consumption, 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] X86 low power board w/3 or more ethernet

> What do you consider low power?  THe PowerRouter 732 will operate at
> GigE speeds, 7 GigE Interfaces and consumes around 80 watts.
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> (better)
> more ethernet ports.
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> Anyone have suggestions?
>
> Needs to have enough cpu power to route full 100m ethernet speed.
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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

[Larry Yunker]

I would have to agree with Marlon, my experience with Pacwireless grids was
less than exceptional.  On the other hand I really like their horizontal
sectors and horizontal omnis.

If you are still looking for a replacement for the Andrew 2.4Ghz 24dbi, we
used to purchase our 24db's from Hyperlink Technologies and had good luck
with those.

Here's a link:

http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22370&cmp=ALSOS


Regards,
Larry Yunker


 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

In my testing they are often at least 2 or three dB less than the rating. 
They have a crappy bracket.  They are 2x heavier.

Actually, there isn't anything that I DO like about them.  Been that way for

years.  I even tried one again a year or so ago.  yuck

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Hensley" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


> What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>
> Hi All,
>
> What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac 
> Wireless
> ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
> name) ones are being discontinued.
>
> Suggestions?
> marlon
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

[Robert West]

I second and also third that opinion on the Pac bracket.   S U C K S !

I use them for backhauls and they aren't spaced too far apart so the loss of
dB isn't much of an issue with me at the moment.  Is there a grid that isn't
that much more in cost but a better value for the buck?



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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

In my testing they are often at least 2 or three dB less than the rating. 
They have a crappy bracket.  They are 2x heavier.

Actually, there isn't anything that I DO like about them.  Been that way for

years.  I even tried one again a year or so ago.  yuck

marlon

- Original Message - 
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To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


> What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
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> Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>
> Hi All,
>
> What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac 
> Wireless
> ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
> name) ones are being discontinued.
>
> Suggestions?
> marlon
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

[Marlon K. Schafer]

In my testing they are often at least 2 or three dB less than the rating. 
They have a crappy bracket.  They are 2x heavier.

Actually, there isn't anything that I DO like about them.  Been that way for 
years.  I even tried one again a year or so ago.  yuck

marlon

- Original Message - 
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To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


> What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
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> Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
>
> Hi All,
>
> What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac 
> Wireless
> ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
> name) ones are being discontinued.
>
> Suggestions?
> marlon
>
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Re: [WISPA] X86 low power board w/3 or more ethernet

[Dennis Burgess]

What do you consider low power?  THe PowerRouter 732 will operate at
GigE speeds, 7 GigE Interfaces and consumes around 80 watts.

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Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:33 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] X86 low power board w/3 or more ethernet


Looking for an x86 compatible board of some kind with at least 3 or
(better) 
more ethernet ports.

Anyone have suggestions?

Needs to have enough cpu power to route full 100m ethernet speed.
gigE 
would be even better.

I've not found such a beast... but I need one where there's no ac power,
no 
climate control...

 





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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

[Mike Hammett]

I believe Commscope was the company that purchased Andrew.


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From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:13 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

> Hi All,
>
> What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac 
> Wireless
> ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
> name) ones are being discontinued.
>
> Suggestions?
> marlon
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

[Mike Hammett]

Speaking of DragonWave...  They have radios now that do more than 1 Gbit of 
throughput in a single direction.  Are they just doing multiple GigE ports 
or is a 10GigE interface available?


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> Yes... although be careful what surge suppressors you use :-)
>
> Dragonwave also uses GigE with PoE for instance on the Horizon Compact.
>
> Daniel White
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> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
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>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:11 PM
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>
>> There's the confusion.  2 "standards".  One with 4 pair and one with 2
> pair.
>> Gotta love standards.
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-T
>
> The Motorola PTP600 has a GigE port and POE.  So will POE still work with
> GigE?
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Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

[Mike Hammett]

AFAIK, there is no standard for PoE on GigE, so each company does their own 
thing until a standard is made available.  I have heard one reference to it 
as power over datalines.


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>> There's the confusion.  2 "standards".  One with 4 pair and one with 2 
>> pair.
>> Gotta love standards.
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-T
>
> The Motorola PTP600 has a GigE port and POE.  So will POE still work with 
> GigE?
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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

[Jason Hensley]

What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

Hi All,

What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac Wireless 
ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new 
name) ones are being discontinued.

Suggestions?
marlon





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[WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Update - NARUC Presentation by Jonathan Adelstein and Larry Strickling

[Charles Wu]

NARUC 121st Annual Convention:
11/17/09
11:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m.
5th Floor - Ballroom D
National Broadband Stimulus Update
Larry Strickling, Director of NTIA and Jonathan Adelstein, Administrator of the 
USDA Rural Utility Service provide an update on the American Recovery and 
Reinvestment Act broadband grant and loan programs.

Moderator: Hon Phil Jones - Commissioner: Washington Utilities and 
Transportation Commission
Panelists:
Hon Larry Strickling - Asst Secreatry for Communications and Info and Director, 
NTIA
Hon Jonathan Adelstein - Administrator, Rural Development Utilities - USDA

Recorded Audio Presentation can be downloaded here: 
http://www.winog.org/index.php?q=bbstimupdate_111709




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