Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyer�s C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?

2007-08-28 Thread James Jeffery
Dont worry about it.

I doubt web companies are going to lose ANY work from clients because of
any of this.

On 8/28/07, Chris Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 That's the same short sighted question asked when WYSIWYG editors were
 introduced. If something like this is making you fear for your career, you
 really need to reevaluate if you are even in the right feild let alone
 career.

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Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyer�s C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?

2007-08-27 Thread Christian Montoya
If your job is making plain looking, cookie cutter templates, then
yes, tools like these will put you out of a job. I see CSS as a box of
watercolors; you can do really simple things with it, and you can do
really complex things too. I doubt there will ever be software that
can replicate the kinds of complex things I do with CSS, and that's
why I'm not afraid of being replaced.

And by the way, Blueprint is not a Google project, it's a project by
Olav Bjorkoy that just so happens to be hosted on Google Code. And
it's a CSS framework, which means that it can make your job easier
(and help you make more money). It won't replace anything.

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Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyer�s C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?

2007-08-27 Thread Frederick Matzen
My opinion is that are tools to help speed up things that take a lot of time
by hand. Like using Dreamweaver instead of Notepad to write web pages. The
faster we can get our work done, the more competitive our prices can be, the
more work we can take in. I'm all over it!!

On 8/27/07, Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Please don't be misguided by the subject :)

 http://www.webassist.com/professional/products/productdetails.asp?
 PID=135RID=930

 I am just curious, what you do guys think of the dreamweaver
 extension like this one and the PVll CSS layout Magic, and the Google
 Blueprint ?
 Can they take over the carefully crafted CSS and structural markup
 you deliver to your clients? There first one even take care of IE
 browsers.

 I notice fewer people ask me to do CSS and XHTML templates lately :)

 tee





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Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyer�s C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?

2007-08-27 Thread Chris Wilson
That's the same short sighted question asked when WYSIWYG editors were
introduced. If something like this is making you fear for your career, you
really need to reevaluate if you are even in the right feild let alone
career.


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Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyers C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?

2007-08-27 Thread Spirit Q.9 Gaming
Sry all, a little out of topic title.

To Paul: i have visited your mintleafstudio and see there'r some probs, i
view within both FireFox 2.0 and IE 6.0 in Window but your content column
dropped down (Resolution: 1024x768). I think it needs a little width there.

Cheers,
Spirit.

On 8/28/07, Paul Minty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tee,

 My understanding is that the tools being rolled out now are intended to
 streamline the production of basic layouts. We've used the Yahoo UI
 library to do that for a while; simple to be competitive on pricing. I
 know the bigger studios spend a lot of time developing pixel-perfect
 designs, usually on an elastic layout. We don't often attract the
 projects and budgets that would justify that level of quality.

 There has been a couple of years where quite basic page layouts have
 needed a lot of hours from experienced CSS developers to produce - I
 reckon those years are over and advanced CSS skills won't be used as
 often in smaller production teams. There will continue to be a place for
 highly skilled and experienced front-end developers in the bigger
 studios. This is a shift in the economics of website production; so
 yeah, have another think about career path.

 Remember, these days any designer can create a complex PDF file that can
 printed straight away - no need for the old technical skills to do
 colour separations and prepare printing plates! Complex and repetitive
 work will always be under pressure from engineering solutions.
 Fashionable design will always be under pressure from younger and cooler
 designers. I'm gonna get shares in Adobe and RMIT!

 Cheers
 Paul


 Paul Minty Director

 mintleaf studio
 We design  create stylish websites

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 Subject: [WSG] will Eric Meyer s CSS SCULPTOR put me out of job?

 Please don't be misguided by the subject :)

 http://www.webassist.com/professional/products/productdetails.asp?
 PID=135RID=930

 I am just curious, what you do guys think of the dreamweaver extension
 like this one and the PVll CSS layout Magic, and the Google Blueprint ?
 Can they take over the carefully crafted CSS and structural markup you
 deliver to your clients? There first one even take care of IE browsers.

 I notice fewer people ask me to do CSS and XHTML templates lately :)

 tee





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