Re: [zfs-discuss] I was going to send you an email
>> As I said in a different thread, I really do try to respond to people in >> the manner that they deserve > This is the wrong way to approach the problem. Sorry, Will: it might be the wrong way for *you* to approach 'the problem' (such as it is), but not for me. ... >> (I was beginning to wonder whether there *were* any less-rabid bystanders) > Well, there were - I for one would have been interested in criticisms > of ZFS, and comparisons to other systems - but I was so put off by the > other content in your earlier emails that I didn't bother reading the > later ones. Your choice, your loss: take responsibility for it. Here's a paragraph from an early email you sent to the > list: > >> I'm afraid that you just don't know what you're talking about, Robert >> - and IIRC I've corrected you on this elsewhere, so you have no excuse >> for repeating your misconceptions now. > The adage about attracting more flies with honey than vinegar applies here. I have no interest in attracting flies - and should I do so inadvertently, I swat them. Robert got off on the wrong foot in the post to which I was responding and then reasserted a misconception which I had previously corrected him on elsewhere, so I swatted him (relatively gently); later, when his tone improved, so did mine. > > Now I shall bow out of this argument entirely. If it ceases to be an > argument, though, I shall be interested in seeing what you have to > say. Difficult as it may be for you to conceive, your attention or lack thereof is not a matter of great concern to me, welcome though you are to pick up anything that might be useful to you (just as I don't much care whether any insights I might come up with are used to improve ZFS: how good or bad ZFS turns out to be is an issue for its developers and its users to tackle). Though I'm happy to answer what questions I can if I notice them, I'm primarily here on the off-chance that I might learn something useful myself, and so far that effort has been almost completely wasted. In the process, however, I've encountered some crap that I decided I wouldn't tolerate, and that's why we're where we are now. - bill This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] I was going to send you an email
On Nov 18, 2007 6:34 PM, can you guess? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I said in a different thread, I really do try to respond to people in > the manner that they deserve This is the wrong way to approach the problem. If you have a legitimate point, make it courteously and respond to criticism nicely. I don't care to read the forty or fifty pages of email between you and members of this list to see who made the first argument ad hominem, but it's irrelevant. Whether you started it or responded to it, you lost any chance of making your point heard when the amount of flaming exceeded the amount of logical content. > (I was beginning to wonder whether there *were* any less-rabid bystanders) Well, there were - I for one would have been interested in criticisms of ZFS, and comparisons to other systems - but I was so put off by the other content in your earlier emails that I didn't bother reading the later ones. Here's a paragraph from an early email you sent to the list: > I'm afraid that you just don't know what you're talking about, Robert > - and IIRC I've corrected you on this elsewhere, so you have no excuse > for repeating your misconceptions now. The adage about attracting more flies with honey than vinegar applies here. Now I shall bow out of this argument entirely. If it ceases to be an argument, though, I shall be interested in seeing what you have to say. Will ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] I was going to send you an email
until I remembered that you said that you were speaking for others as well and decided that I'd like to speak to them too. As I said in a different thread, I really do try to respond to people in the manner that they deserve (and believe that in most cases here I have done so): even though I recognize that this may be off-putting it's sometimes the only way to break through bias and complacency, and since I came to zfs-discuss in search of technical interaction rather than a warm, fuzzy feeling of belonging I don't see too much of a down-side (unless I've managed to scare off anyone who might otherwise have contributed some technical insight, which would be unfortunate). But I do apologize if I've managed to offend any less-rabid bystanders (I was beginning to wonder whether there *were* any less-rabid bystanders) in the process, since that was not my intent. - bill This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
