Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-11 Thread Johannes Raggam
On Tue, 2014-03-11 at 17:07 -0600, Sean Upton wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Tres Seaver  wrote:
> >> When I try to visit the mailing list web interface, Firefox is
> >> stopped in its tracks by "Secure Connection Failed An error occurred
> >> during a connection to mail.zope.org. The OCSP server has no status
> >> for the certificate. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert)"
> >
> > There are two problems with HTTPS on mail.zope.org:  our own certificate
> > is expired, and the issuer (StartCom) has an intermediate certificate
> > which expired even longer ago:
> >
> >   http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=mail.zope.org/
> 
> I hope there is some luck folks having with resolving this.  One can
> always take the approach Jim took with ZODB-dev, moving it to Google
> Groups, but there is real value in the archives regardless of where
> the current lists live.  And the archives are de-facto inaccessible
> now -- if nothing else, the archives could be hosted on any static
> HTTP site and would not need any SSL/TLS/certificate burden.

+1 

> 
> Sean
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-11 Thread Sean Upton
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Tres Seaver  wrote:
>> When I try to visit the mailing list web interface, Firefox is
>> stopped in its tracks by "Secure Connection Failed An error occurred
>> during a connection to mail.zope.org. The OCSP server has no status
>> for the certificate. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert)"
>
> There are two problems with HTTPS on mail.zope.org:  our own certificate
> is expired, and the issuer (StartCom) has an intermediate certificate
> which expired even longer ago:
>
>   http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=mail.zope.org/

I hope there is some luck folks having with resolving this.  One can
always take the approach Jim took with ZODB-dev, moving it to Google
Groups, but there is real value in the archives regardless of where
the current lists live.  And the archives are de-facto inaccessible
now -- if nothing else, the archives could be hosted on any static
HTTP site and would not need any SSL/TLS/certificate burden.

Sean
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-11 Thread Johannes Raggam
On Tue, 2014-03-11 at 17:12 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote:
> On 03/11/2014 01:39 AM, Jean Jordaan wrote:
> > When I try to use the "Kontakt" (sic) form at http://zope.org/, it 
> > pops up an empty div: "".
> 
> Ugh, I don't recall now where the software lives for that.  CC'ing the
> infrastructure list to verify.

i've done the zope.org implementation together with michael
haubenwallner in 2010. it's a Plone 4 website. since then, not much
happened. i'd be happy to get some help with maintaining this. 

this is the theme/integration package:
https://github.com/d2m/plonetheme.zopeorg
and here is the buildout:
http://svn.zope.org/zopeorg.buildout/branches/www.zope.org/


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Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-11 Thread Tres Seaver
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On 03/11/2014 01:39 AM, Jean Jordaan wrote:

> I've been unsubscribed from the Zope mailing lists due to "excessive
> bounces". So for some reason despite my clicking "ignore, I trust this
> message" 100s of times, gmail doesn't like the mails zope.org sends.

Some mail appears to be coming from a host (hetzner04.zopefoundation.org)
which is not one of our MX hosts:

 $ dig -t MX zope.org
 ...
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 zope.org.  600 IN  MX  0 mail.zope.org.
 zope.org.  600 IN  MX  5 mail2.zope.org.


Our SPF record says that mail should only be coming from them, so Google
is bouncing those messages.  We need either to fix it so that mail comes
from the 'mail.zope.org' IP, or else add the other host to our MX list.

> When I try to visit the mailing list web interface, Firefox is
> stopped in its tracks by "Secure Connection Failed An error occurred
> during a connection to mail.zope.org. The OCSP server has no status
> for the certificate. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert)"

There are two problems with HTTPS on mail.zope.org:  our own certificate
is expired, and the issuer (StartCom) has an intermediate certificate
which expired even longer ago:

  http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=mail.zope.org/

> When I try to use the "Kontakt" (sic) form at http://zope.org/, it 
> pops up an empty div: "".

Ugh, I don't recall now where the software lives for that.  CC'ing the
infrastructure list to verify.


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