RE: [Zope3-dev] New preferences package

2005-04-08 Thread Garrett Smith
Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Thursday 07 April 2005 19:43, Garrett Smith wrote:
>> I suggest that new packages like this should be as decoupled from
>> zope/app as possible until it's clear that they belong in the core.
> 
> If apidoc is in the core, the preference will be too. :-)

It's not currently and until there's a light-weight version that makes
sense for minimal Zope installations, I would argue that it should never
be.

Please keep in mind that some of us use Zope as an embedded application
server. Zope needs to remain flexible in terms of how it can be
distributed. If zope/app/configure.zcml grows unabated, Zope will become
unnecessarily brittle.

Thanks goodness we have package-includes, right?

 -- Garrett

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RE: [Zope3-dev] New preferences package

2005-04-08 Thread Roger Ineichen
Behalf Of Jim Fulton
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:54 PM
> To: Stephan Richter
> Cc: Garrett Smith; zope3-dev@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope3-dev] New preferences package
> 
> Stephan Richter wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 April 2005 19:43, Garrett Smith wrote:
> > 
> >>I suggest that new packages like this should be as decoupled from
> >>zope/app as possible until it's clear that they belong in the core.
> > 
> > 
> > If apidoc is in the core, the preference will be too. :-)
> 
> We've never defined what "core" means.
> 
> It is certainly the case that apidoc should be included via
> package includes, 

And now we have a definition what core means. ;-)
(included via package includes)

> which it is, so
> preferences should be too.

1+

Regards
Roger Ineichen

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Re: [Zope3-dev] New preferences package

2005-04-08 Thread Jim Fulton
Stephan Richter wrote:
On Thursday 07 April 2005 19:43, Garrett Smith wrote:
I suggest that new packages like this should be as decoupled from
zope/app as possible until it's clear that they belong in the core.

If apidoc is in the core, the preference will be too. :-)
We've never defined what "core" means.
It is certainly the case that apidoc should be included via
package includes, which it is, so
preferences should be too.
Jim
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Re: [Zope3-dev] New preferences package

2005-04-08 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 07 April 2005 19:43, Garrett Smith wrote:
> I suggest that new packages like this should be as decoupled from
> zope/app as possible until it's clear that they belong in the core.

If apidoc is in the core, the preference will be too. :-)

Regards,
Stephan
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Re: [Zope3-dev] New preferences package

2005-04-08 Thread Jim Fulton
Garrett Smith wrote:
Can we move the config out of zope/app/configure.zcml and move it into
package-includes?
I suggest that new packages like this should be as decoupled from
zope/app as possible until it's clear that they belong in the core.
Agreed.
Jim
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[Zope3-dev] New preferences package

2005-04-07 Thread Garrett Smith
Can we move the config out of zope/app/configure.zcml and move it into
package-includes?

I suggest that new packages like this should be as decoupled from
zope/app as possible until it's clear that they belong in the core.

 -- Garrett
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