[Zope3-dev] Re: zope.app.schema (and other junk)
On Jul 18, 2006, at 6:34 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: -=- Modified: Zope3/branches/3.3/doc/CHANGES.txt === --- Zope3/branches/3.3/doc/CHANGES.txt2006-07-17 19:24:19 UTC (rev 69162) +++ Zope3/branches/3.3/doc/CHANGES.txt2006-07-17 19:26:12 UTC (rev 69163) @@ -10,6 +10,10 @@ Bugfixes + - Fixed issue 604, Mutable schemas were accidentally included in +the 3.2 release even though they weren't ready and didn't +work. They are not included in the 3.3 release. + I see you've removed the zope.app.schema package from the release. I don't think we can do that. The vocabulary registry that looks up vocabularies as utilities is located in there (zope.app.schema.vocabulary). It's a vital part for Zope 3. Hm. Why? I don't really want something that is just an alternate spelling for getUtility? Does it provide any value beside looking up a utility? Say you have a schema with a Choice field that refers to a vocabulary. The field will use the vocabulary registry to look up the vocabulary (because zope.schema doesn't [want to] know about zope.component). You can plug in any vocabulary registry into zope.schema you like, zope.app.schema happens to plug in one that dispatches to a getUtility call. Perhaps it might make sense to make zope.schema aware of zope.component, at least optionally. The original author of vocabularies (I think it was Gary?) didn't intend it to be that way, though. OK, let's leave it for now then. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporationhttp://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: zope.app.schema (and other junk)
Jim Fulton wrote: >> Jim Fulton wrote: >>> -=- >>> Modified: Zope3/branches/3.3/doc/CHANGES.txt >>> === >>> --- Zope3/branches/3.3/doc/CHANGES.txt2006-07-17 19:24:19 UTC >>> (rev 69162) >>> +++ Zope3/branches/3.3/doc/CHANGES.txt2006-07-17 19:26:12 UTC >>> (rev 69163) >>> @@ -10,6 +10,10 @@ >>> >>> Bugfixes >>> >>> + - Fixed issue 604, Mutable schemas were accidentally included in >>> +the 3.2 release even though they weren't ready and didn't >>> +work. They are not included in the 3.3 release. >>> + >> >> I see you've removed the zope.app.schema package from the release. I >> don't think we can do that. The vocabulary registry that looks up >> vocabularies as utilities is located in there >> (zope.app.schema.vocabulary). It's a vital part for Zope 3. > > Hm. Why? I don't really want something that is just an alternate > spelling for getUtility? Does it provide any value beside looking up > a utility? Say you have a schema with a Choice field that refers to a vocabulary. The field will use the vocabulary registry to look up the vocabulary (because zope.schema doesn't [want to] know about zope.component). You can plug in any vocabulary registry into zope.schema you like, zope.app.schema happens to plug in one that dispatches to a getUtility call. Perhaps it might make sense to make zope.schema aware of zope.component, at least optionally. The original author of vocabularies (I think it was Gary?) didn't intend it to be that way, though. >> I suggest we remove everything that has to do with mutable schemas >> somewhere else (zope.mutableschema?) and leave zope.app.schema in the >> release. Alternatively, we can move the two items I mentioned above to >> zope.schema and indeed get rid of zope.app.schema in the release. > > OK, I suggest we move the zope.mutable schema out, or even remove it. > I actually porefer removing it. It will still be in the repositoiry. I > don't want to create a new mysterious directory with non-working code. +1 Fine by me Philipp ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Zope3-dev] Re: zope.app.schema (and other junk)
On Jul 18, 2006, at 6:16 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: -=- Modified: Zope3/branches/3.3/doc/CHANGES.txt === --- Zope3/branches/3.3/doc/CHANGES.txt 2006-07-17 19:24:19 UTC (rev 69162) +++ Zope3/branches/3.3/doc/CHANGES.txt 2006-07-17 19:26:12 UTC (rev 69163) @@ -10,6 +10,10 @@ Bugfixes + - Fixed issue 604, Mutable schemas were accidentally included in +the 3.2 release even though they weren't ready and didn't +work. They are not included in the 3.3 release. + I see you've removed the zope.app.schema package from the release. I don't think we can do that. The vocabulary registry that looks up vocabularies as utilities is located in there (zope.app.schema.vocabulary). It's a vital part for Zope 3. Hm. Why? I don't really want something that is just an alternate spelling for getUtility? Does it provide any value beside looking up a utility? The (now deprecated) 'vocabulary' ZCML directive is also defined there, we need it for BBB. Right. I noticed that there were lots of tests failing in the release and I feared it had something to do with this. Since I couldn't even make a release as things stood, I decided not to worry about it for now. I suggest we remove everything that has to do with mutable schemas somewhere else (zope.mutableschema?) and leave zope.app.schema in the release. Alternatively, we can move the two items I mentioned above to zope.schema and indeed get rid of zope.app.schema in the release. OK, I suggest we move the zope.mutable schema out, or even remove it. I actually porefer removing it. It will still be in the repositoiry. I don't want to create a new mysterious directory with non-working code. P.S.: Btw, there's lots of junk lurking in zope.app that we aren't shipping and I don't see anyone stepping up to fix some of this bitrotten code (it's been there since the pre-X3.0 days). Perhaps it's time to move all of this out of zope.app, or even the Zope 3 tree altogether? Yes, but let's get through the "June" release first. :/ Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporationhttp://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com