Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Arthur Țițeică
Hi, În ziua de Joi 27 Martie 2014, la 23:49:45, Thomas Bächler a scris: > And here is my problem: Audit is enabled by default and must be > explicitly disabled by the admin. This is a showstopper for me! There is > no kernel option to configure audit to be disabled by default (as far as > I am awa

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Arthur Țițeică wrote: > Hi, > > În ziua de Joi 27 Martie 2014, la 23:49:45, Thomas Bächler a scris: >> And here is my problem: Audit is enabled by default and must be >> explicitly disabled by the admin. This is a showstopper for me! There is >> no kernel option t

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Mauro Santos
On 28-03-2014 10:54, Arthur Țițeică wrote: > It raises a question mark that the two most important components of a system > (systemd and the kernel) have security measures disabled. > > People in this thread like to put out the over subjective "lightweight" > factor > but still there are no bug

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Micay
On 28/03/14 06:54 AM, Arthur Țițeică wrote: > Hi, > > În ziua de Joi 27 Martie 2014, la 23:49:45, Thomas Bächler a scris: >> And here is my problem: Audit is enabled by default and must be >> explicitly disabled by the admin. This is a showstopper for me! There is >> no kernel option to configure

Re: [arch-general] Must use nomodeset to enable boot [SOLVED]

2014-03-28 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 16 Mar 2014, Anthony Campbell wrote: > I have a Thinkpad T42 which has been happily running Arch for many > months. Its video is AMD/ATI. > > After a recent upgrade I started getting the dreaded blank page on > boot. Googling showed a lot of discussion of this on various distros > including Arc

[arch-general] svntogit stuck

2014-03-28 Thread Armin K.
In case some of the people responsible for it are reading this: svn2git is stuck for 2 days without any changes although the packages are being upgraded. I can't even examine changes for packages through al.o/packages anymore. -- Note: My last name is not Krejzi.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Bigby James
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:54:44PM +0200, Arthur Țițeică wrote: > It raises a question mark that the two most important components of a system > (systemd and the kernel) have security measures disabled. > > People in this thread like to put out the over subjective "lightweight" > factor > but s

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Mario Rugiero
I'll answer random things I read in the thread. First, I don't think the "lightweight" part of the philosophy is about using stock packages, as that's implied in the KISS philosophy, you don't need to stress it any more than that. The same KISS philosophy says one should try to avoid complexity whe

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Bigby James wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:01:06PM +0100, Martti Kühne wrote: >> I'm very much for cleaning up the kernel config from things that >> factually are useless. >> > > "Factually useless" is not a subjective standard by which to measure things. > I

Re: [arch-general] per error

2014-03-28 Thread Scott Lawrence
Looks like you want to install perl-html-parser. On Fri, 28 Mar 2014, message wrote: Readers, 'get_iplayer' is a program to extract media from BBC F(/tr)ash streams. After installation of the program, obtained the following error: Can't locate HTML/Entities.pm in @INC (you may need to insta

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Bigby James
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 03:05:25PM +0100, Martti Kühne wrote: > Well, they came in when people argued in favor of them. [0] > > [0] > https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2013-November/034385.html That entire thread regards the userspace packages and the kludge of a policy that a

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Bigby James wrote: > So you think it's justifiable to expect someone you don't know to spend more > time than necessary performing a tedious and monotonous task, because maybe, > someday, it might make your life slightly more convenient? What if that "one > day" is

[arch-general] per error

2014-03-28 Thread message
Readers, 'get_iplayer' is a program to extract media from BBC F(/tr)ash streams. After installation of the program, obtained the following error: Can't locate HTML/Entities.pm in @INC (you may need to install the HTML::Entities module) (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/share/perl

[arch-general] Java 8

2014-03-28 Thread Caleb Cushing
I'm just wondering what the plan is, if any, for getting java 8 packages into arch? -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.com Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=xenoterracide%40gmail.com&ctz=America/Chicago

Re: [arch-general] svntogit stuck

2014-03-28 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 28.03.2014 14:29, schrieb Armin K.: > In case some of the people responsible for it are reading this: > > svn2git is stuck for 2 days without any changes although the packages > are being upgraded. I can't even examine changes for packages through > al.o/packages anymore. It seems the script p

Re: [arch-general] What's with F# and mono?

2014-03-28 Thread Squall Lionheart
> > Great, there is hope then :) > > Do you happen to remember where you found that add-on for MonoDevelop? > I can't seem to find one that can be downloaded AND plugged into MD. > I'm pretty sure that when I first set it up, I installed it from the Add-in manager --> Language Bindings, but it's n

[arch-general] package ncurses lacks c++ support

2014-03-28 Thread lx
In core/ncurses, we have c++ wrapper header files like cursesw.h, but the corresponding library was not included. Actually, gnu ncurses itself only builds a static "libncurses++.a". Is there any need to do some extra work to add a libncurses++.so to the package?

Re: [arch-general] per error

2014-03-28 Thread Marshall Cleave
>Readers, > >'get_iplayer' is a program to extract media from BBC F(/tr)ash >streams. After installation of the program, obtained the following >error: > >Can't locate HTML/Entities.pm in @INC (you may need to install the >HTML::Entities module) (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl >/usr/sha

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Bigby James
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:01:06PM +0100, Martti Kühne wrote: > I'm very much for cleaning up the kernel config from things that > factually are useless. > "Factually useless" is not a subjective standard by which to measure things. If you don't personally configure the features in question by in

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Genes Lists
On 03/28/2014 09:12 AM, Daniel Micay wrote: ... Security needs to be simple, predictable and well understood. It needs to be provably correct and easily audited. SELinux is none of these things. I don't really understand why a distribution striving for simplicity would ever enable it. I thi

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 28.03.2014 17:11, schrieb Martti Kühne: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Bigby James wrote: >> So you think it's justifiable to expect someone you don't know to spend more >> time than necessary performing a tedious and monotonous task, because maybe, >> someday, it might make your life sligh

Re: [arch-general] svntogit stuck

2014-03-28 Thread Joel Teichroeb
packages.git looks fine to me now, but community.git is still stuck.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Arthur Țițeică
Hi, În ziua de Vineri 28 Martie 2014, la 12:54:44, Arthur Țițeică a scris: > As a side note I will try to test the worst case scenario in the Phoronix > tests -- Postmark, and post the results here. I managed to finish testing. As said above I picked up this test because it was the only one sta

Re: [arch-general] Java 8

2014-03-28 Thread Guillaume ALAUX
On 28 March 2014 18:30, Caleb Cushing wrote: > > I'm just wondering what the plan is, if any, for getting java 8 > packages into arch? > > -- > Caleb Cushing > > http://xenoterracide.com > > Calendar: > https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=xenoterracide%40gmail.com&ctz=America/Chicago Hello

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Trimming down our default kernel configuration

2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Micay
On 28/03/14 02:36 PM, Genes Lists wrote: > On 03/28/2014 09:12 AM, Daniel Micay wrote: >> > ... >> >> Security needs to be simple, predictable and well understood. It needs >> to be provably correct and easily audited. SELinux is none of these >> things. I don't really understand why a distribution