RE: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-27 Thread Christopher Woods
> -Original Message- > From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk > [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts > Sent: 27 January 2010 22:38 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: [backstage] iPad > > So, what does everyone think? (disclaimer: I generally hate A

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-27 Thread Steff
2010/1/27 Mo McRoberts : > So, what does everyone think? > > (and how much effect will it have on the situation over the > next 18 months or so, do we reckon?) It's just a big iPhone AFAICT*. Popularising the idea that not everything runs Flash might be educate some web developers, I suppose. S

[backstage] iPad

2010-01-27 Thread Mo McRoberts
So, what does everyone think? (and how much effect will it have on the situation over the next 18 months or so, do we reckon?) M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list a

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Dave Crossland
Well exactly, there are THREE main desktops, and one doesn't and wont have h264 preinstalled. This wouldn't be a problem if The Guardian and other news broadcasters stopped bystanding and made the videos they publish available in Xiph formats earlier; they continue to squander their significant in

RE: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Christopher Woods
> That's on-demand content, not broadcast. The two are encoded > via separate systems. Were we not talking about the iPlayer videos?... derp - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Un

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 27 Jan 2010, at 11:59, Christopher Woods wrote: >> On 27 Jan 2010, at 08:31, Mo McRoberts wrote: >>> that's a good point: I wonder how much of the broadcast output *is* >>> encoded in real-time? all of it? >> >> I believe so. > > > Not unless they've changed their previous policy of ingesti

RE: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Christopher Woods
> On 27 Jan 2010, at 08:31, Mo McRoberts wrote: > > that's a good point: I wonder how much of the broadcast output *is* > > encoded in real-time? all of it? > > I believe so. Not unless they've changed their previous policy of ingesting popular / headline shows prior to their airing, then maki

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 27 Jan 2010, at 08:31, Mo McRoberts wrote: > that's a good point: I wonder how much of the broadcast output *is* > encoded in real-time? all of it? I believe so. > after all, live programming is in the minority on BBC1-4, and assuming > things sit on sensible boundaries and are pre-packetised

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Ian Stirling
Kieran Kunhya wrote: For 720p25 you might need more than 3.5Mbps for more demanding scenes. (Except increasing the bitrate or using a better encoder will make iPlayer look better than the broadcast...) You do get an awful lot better results when you are not compressing in real time, of course, b

RE: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Andrew Bowden
From: Brian Butterworth > On DVB-T it is everything. BBC One used to have reserved bandwidth, but is > now statmuxed with everything else. My assumption is the BBC delivers > motion-JPEG to the regional encoders and the services are statmuxed from > there. Don't know the gory technical details,

[backstage] Radio 4 PM Upshares Downshares themes...

2010-01-27 Thread Brian Butterworth
For those with both a serious Eddie Marr habit and also have iPhones and Droids needing ringtones, here's the 82 versions as downloadable links... http://www.ukfree.tv/pm/ (donations to http://www.dec.org.uk/item/200 please) -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/brianti

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Kieran Kunhya
> For 720p25 you might need more than 3.5Mbps for more > demanding scenes. (Except increasing the bitrate or using a > better encoder will make iPlayer look better than the > broadcast...) > > You do get an awful lot better results when you > are not compressing in real time, of course, because yo

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Brian Butterworth
2010/1/27 Mo McRoberts > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 08:20, Brian Butterworth > wrote: > > > You do get an awful lot better results when you are not compressing in > real > > time, of course, because you can use all the MPEG4 forward references, > the > > ones you don't get when you real time encode

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 08:20, Brian Butterworth wrote: > You do get an awful lot better results when you are not compressing in real > time, of course, because you can use all the MPEG4 forward references, the > ones you don't get when you real time encode. that's a good point: I wonder how muc

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Brian Butterworth
2010/1/26 Kieran Kunhya > > > For 720p25 you might need more than 3.5Mbps for more demanding scenes. > (Except increasing the bitrate or using a better encoder will make iPlayer > look better than the broadcast...) > You do get an awful lot better results when you are not compressing in real tim