Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-20 Thread mohamed.boucadair
>; bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>; s...@ietf.org<mailto:s...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc Re-, This is really a matter of taste. Jim, whatever scheme we use for identifying service chains, there are requirements/constraint

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-20 Thread LINGALA, AVINASH
Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net>; Adrian Farrel <adr...@olddog.co.uk> Cc: mpls <m...@ietf.org>; SPRING WG List <spr...@ietf.org>; bess@ietf.org; s...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc Re-, This is really a matter of taste. Jim, whatever scheme w

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-19 Thread NAPIERALA, MARIA H
; bess@ietf.org; s...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc I echo robert’s comment, while I agree that draft-ietf-bess-service-chaining is useful work, we should not define yet another data-plane for it. From: <rras...@gmail.com<mailto:rras...@gmail.c

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
. I’m wrong? Cheers, Med De : UTTARO, JAMES [mailto:ju1...@att.com] Envoyé : lundi 19 mars 2018 14:10 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp); Robert Raszuk; Adrian Farrel Cc : mpls; SPRING WG List; s...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Objet : RE: [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-19 Thread UTTARO, JAMES
og.co.uk> Cc: mpls <m...@ietf.org>; SPRING WG List <spr...@ietf.org>; s...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc Re-, I’m afraid that you cannot ‘simply’ re-use MPLS for chaining purposes without any code upgrade. NSH does provi

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
- BE/Antwerp); Robert Raszuk; Adrian Farrel Cc : mpls; SPRING WG List; s...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Objet : RE: [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc Med, We run an MPLS network so there is no NSH deployed anywhere. I want to create simple chains that we can make available

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-19 Thread UTTARO, JAMES
og.co.uk> Cc: mpls <m...@ietf.org>; SPRING WG List <spr...@ietf.org>; s...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc Hi Jim, Perhaps I missed your point, but I’m not asking to disallow whatever transport encapsulation scheme deployed in a networ

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
personally favor re-using NSH. Cheers, Med De : UTTARO, JAMES [mailto:ju1...@att.com] Envoyé : lundi 19 mars 2018 12:33 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp); Robert Raszuk; Adrian Farrel Cc : mpls; SPRING WG List; s...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Objet : RE: [sfc] [mpls

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-19 Thread UTTARO, JAMES
ist <spr...@ietf.org>; s...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc Hi all, Wim has a point here. For all these proposals, a new behavior is needed to be followed by SFC-aware nodes. What differs is the channel used to signal a chain and to s

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi all, Wim has a point here. For all these proposals, a new behavior is needed to be followed by SFC-aware nodes. What differs is the channel used to signal a chain and to supply additional data for SFC purposes. Leveraging on existing code/capabilities is good for a vendor/implementer,

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-18 Thread Robert Raszuk
know/control > what goes where. But that problem exists to some extent for any remotely > attached SF. For that reason (among others) I would implement the proxy as > part of the SFF. > > > > Cheers, > > Adrian > > > > *From:* Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) [ma

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-18 Thread Adrian Farrel
lto:wim.henderi...@nokia.com] Sent: 18 March 2018 07:26 To: Robert Raszuk; Adrian Farrel Cc: mpls; SPRING WG List; s...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc Indeed, this is exactly my point. If you want an interim solution you want to use wh

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-18 Thread Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
etf.org>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc Hi Adrian, > That proxy may be a bump in the wire between the SFF and SF I am not so sure about that ... If this would be just "bump in the wire" you would h

Re: [bess] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-17 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Adrian, > That proxy may be a bump in the wire between the SFF and SF I am not so sure about that ... If this would be just "bump in the wire" you would have zero guarantees that all packets which need to go via given function will actually hit that bump - so this is far from a reliable