Re: [Bitcoin-development] 0.8.6 release candidate 1

2013-12-09 Thread Drak
On 9 December 2013 13:52, Roy Badami r...@gnomon.org.uk wrote: On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 01:39:51PM +, Drak wrote: Someone needs to update the bitcoin.org website, it still points downloads to 0.8.5 Perhaps because 0.8.6 hasn't been released yet? Or did I miss the announcement? I

Re: [Bitcoin-development] 0.8.6 release candidate 1

2013-12-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Drak d...@zikula.org wrote: Why would it be made available for download at sourceforge.net if it's not actually released? The files are available here: Because it takes time to put the files up, propagate to mirrors, check by multiple people that the downloads

Re: [Bitcoin-development] 0.8.6 release candidate 1

2013-12-09 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Drak d...@zikula.org wrote: looking sticky posts at bitcointalk like this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=364353.0. Was that an official announcement? Yes. -- Jeff Garzik Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist BitPay, Inc.

[Bitcoin-development] [Patch] bitcoin for Fedora = 20

2013-12-09 Thread Harald Hoyer
Interesting post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=364877.0 Would be worth a try :-) I'd like to see bitcoin running on Fedora = 20 out of the box. -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and

[Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Ryan Carboni
This is no doubt probably a very controversial Bitcoin Improvement Proposal and is also a very rough draft of one. Bitcoin lacks a Central Bank. This is good and bad. A central bank benefits those with political connections. But Bitcoin lacks price stability, this generates menu costs, and

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Ryan Carboni
It is not a violation of the trust of those holding the currency. Many people bought Bitcoin in the hopes that it's value in the relation of other currencies will increase, not because there's a fixed money supply. The majority of people using Bitcoin as a currency in exchange for real goods are

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Ryan Carboni ryan.jc...@gmail.com wrote: It is not a violation of the trust of those holding the currency. Many people bought Bitcoin in the hopes that it's value in the relation of other currencies will increase, not because there's a fixed money supply. The

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Mike Caldwell
For what it's worth, once upon a time I pushed this agenda on Bitcointalk. I'd say early 2011 or so. The response I got was so strong and unanimous in favor of this point being absolutely non-negotiable that if the money supply were anything other than fixed, Bitcoin may as well be pretend

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Jameson Lopp
To piggyback on Jeff, Any proposal that is going to add reliance upon data from third parties outside of the Bitcoin network itself is likely going to be rejected outright. This opens far too many potential vulnerabilities. The exchanges that are kept track of could be hard coded into Bitcoin or

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Allen Piscitello
I've got a better idea. Ben Bernake needs a new job. Let's just let him set the block reward. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Jameson Lopp jameson.l...@gmail.com wrote: To piggyback on Jeff, Any proposal that is going to add reliance upon data from third parties outside of the Bitcoin

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Ryan Carboni
Bitcoin is made of many parts, yes, but not all parts were developed simultaneously. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Gavin Andresen gavinandre...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Ryan Carboni ryan.jc...@gmail.comwrote: The exchanges that are kept track of could be hard coded

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Ryan Carboni
You're just closed minded. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Jeff Garzik jgar...@bitpay.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Ryan Carboni ryan.jc...@gmail.com wrote: It is not a violation of the trust of those holding the currency. Many people bought Bitcoin in the hopes that it's

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread kjj
Ryan Carboni wrote: Bitcoin lacks a Central Bank. This is a feature, not a bug. Also, this is offtopic. Political debate is thataway -. bitcoin-development is for development and technical discussion. -- Sponsored

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Rick Wesson
+1 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Gavin Andresen gavinandre...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Ryan Carboni ryan.jc...@gmail.comwrote: The exchanges that are kept track of could be hard coded into Bitcoin or the miner could choose, how this works is not something I'm

Re: [Bitcoin-development] 0.8.6 release candidate 1

2013-12-09 Thread Roy Badami
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 02:55:02PM +, Drak wrote: On 9 December 2013 13:52, Roy Badami r...@gnomon.org.uk wrote: On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 01:39:51PM +, Drak wrote: Someone needs to update the bitcoin.org website, it still points downloads to 0.8.5 Perhaps because 0.8.6