Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Richard Baker
Martin said: > Might as well let Jan and Jeroen sort this out for themselves. I also > wrote two pulitzer-prize-grade-mails, but they were ignored. You wrote the mails I would've written if I hadn't just spent a week in bed with labyrinthitis. As far as I can see, you won the argument so conclus

SV: It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Martin Malmkvist
Wow, thanks Richard. I really appreciate that mail from you :) Perhaps I should underline that the pulitzer-prize-part was just me kidding - I didn't mean to show off or anything. I'm also happy that we agree, although I don't think that my conclusions or speculations are completely unassailable (

Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Richard Baker
Martin said: > Wow, thanks Richard. I really appreciate that mail from you :) You're welcome, and thank you for saving me all that typing. I'll just add a few notes. Firstly, as far as I can see the collapse of the Third Reich was caused by lack of resources, most especially the shortage of oil.

SV: It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Martin Malmkvist
I agree. Also on your last point. Martin Malmkvist --- You're welcome, and thank you for saving me all that typing. I'll just add a few notes. Firstly, as far as I can see the collapse of the Third Reich was caused by l

Re:ICC was Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
At Stardate 20030626.0002, Jan Coffey wrote: > IIRC, that's not going to happen: the EU recently decided NOT to > federalise. Yes and the lack of the other two branches is troubeling. The EU doesn't have these three branches yet because it's not a country; the EU is a body in which a number of co

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
At Stardate 20030626.0008, Jan Coffey wrote: > BTW, I don't know how this is handled elsewhere, but in The Netherlands > going to Law School is just like going to any other school: the government > doesn't pay for it, you'll have to pay for it yourself (despite the > existence of student loans fro

Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
At Stardate 20030626.0014, Jan Coffey wrote: > That has nothing to do with the concept of trial by jury. The jury system > doesn't have any more safeguards against an innocent man being convicted > than our system has. Your system has profesional judges who make decisions that is to much power, A

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
At Stardate 20030626.0018, Jan Coffey wrote: > >I trust an average person taken from the street far more than I would > >trust someone who does it for a living. > > So, when you feel ill, you ask a not-medically-trained average person from > the street for a diagnosis, rather than go see a physici

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
At Stardate 200326.0034, Bryon Daly wrote: When someone allegedly broke a law, do you really believe that uneducated Joe Average is more qualified to determine whether a law really was broken than someone who has actually *studied* the laws? I think that a large part of the judgement of a case i

Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
At Stardate 20030625.1226, Richard Baker wrote: You wrote the mails I would've written if I hadn't just spent a week in bed with labyrinthitis. Labyrinthitis? Jeroen van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website:

Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Richard Baker
Jeroen said: > Labyrinthitis? An infection of the inner ear that affects balance. It's very unpleasant indeed to suffer from. Here's a description of my recent woes: http://www.theculture.org/rich/sharpblue/archives/62.html Rich, still dizzy. [Sponsored by:] _

Re:ICC was Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At Stardate 20030626.0002, Jan Coffey wrote: > > > > IIRC, that's not going to happen: the EU recently decided NOT to > > > federalise. > > > >Yes and the lack of the other two branches is troubeling. > > The EU doesn't have these three br

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At Stardate 20030626.0008, Jan Coffey wrote: > > > > BTW, I don't know how this is handled elsewhere, but in The Netherlands > > > going to Law School is just like going to any other school: the > government > > > doesn't pay for it, you'll

Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At Stardate 20030626.0014, Jan Coffey wrote: > > > > That has nothing to do with the concept of trial by jury. The jury > system > > > doesn't have any more safeguards against an innocent man being > convicted > > > than our system has. > >

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At Stardate 20030626.0018, Jan Coffey wrote: > > > > >I trust an average person taken from the street far more than I would > > > >trust someone who does it for a living. > > > > > > So, when you feel ill, you ask a not-medically-trained av

Re:Re:Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: See other post about law complexity. > >Where more technical points of law are involved, the judge is involved, > >and he/she can dismiss the case, declare a mistrial, exclude evidence, > >instruct the jury on the points of law, order the jur

Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Steve Sloan II
Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: > > we in the US do not trust our governemnt that much. > You're contradicting yourself. On one hand you say you > don't trust the government (in this case, a member of > the Judicial branch), but on the other hand you've > stated that the three branches (Legislative,

Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Steve Sloan II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: > > > > we in the US do not trust our governemnt that much. > > > You're contradicting yourself. On one hand you say you > > don't trust the government (in this case, a member of > > the Judicial branch), but on t