On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:11, Mike Baroukh wrote:
>> What about the mail application? Every 5 minutes it should only check
>> for new messages if you're on your provider's own network ...
>> I described how the Nokia N95 handles this in my post of 10 August
>> 2008 13:30:19 BST (search for "N95" in t
>
> I described how the Nokia N95 handles this in my post of 10 August
> 2008 13:30:19 BST (search for "N95" in the subject) but perhaps not
> very clearly, as I hoped for more replies. Apparently I wasted too
>
Well, I found your post.
Effectively, it was pretty ... long ...
On each typ
> What about the mail application? Every 5 minutes it should only check
> for new messages if you're on your provider's own network, not when
> you are on holiday in Spain.
i am afraid that's beyond the scope of the solution i outlined.
though i guess as soon as the necessary informations are avai
On 11 Aug 2008, at 10:52, arne anka wrote:
> ... all programs
> connecting to the net should be absolutely agnostic to the kind of
> connection you use.
What about the mail application? Every 5 minutes it should only check
for new messages if you're on your provider's own network, not when
y
>
> i don't think so -- checking the proxy variable should be transparent to
> the apps and done by which layer is responsible for managing th connection.
indeed, if the variable is only in environnement, you must restart.
Also, I'm still not sure that there is a variable.
Who can set it ? Only p
>> for the proxy: as someone mentioned before -- there is a global variable
>> defining the proxy .
>
> Does this mean that I have to re-start my applications when I connect ?
> Not optimal ...
i don't think so -- checking the proxy variable should be transparent to
the apps and done by which la
>
> for the proxy: as someone mentioned before -- there is a global variable
> defining the proxy .
Does this mean that I have to re-start my applications when I connect ?
Not optimal ...
Anyway do you know who put this variable ?
And where to configure it's value ?
Mike
arne anka a écrit :
> If I take a concrete example : my ~/.wgetrc.
> i wan't to connect to internet
> - from home, with wifi, I have direct access to internet.
> - from work, with wifi, I must use a proxy.
> - from outside, I must use GPRS with another proxy.
>
> It's easy to make a script that will update .wgetrc.
ur
> provider puts you in some kind of vpn, not available from the inet by othe
> means then a proxy of your provider.
> - bt networking seem snot to be a widely used option
>
> so, imo the only means of networking subject to intelligent settings are
> wfi and gprs.
> wif
i need either a new keyboard or new hands ...
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bt networking seem snot to be a widely used option
so, imo the only means of networking subject to intelligent settings are
wfi and gprs.
wifi is, as said before, configurable in wpa_supplicant.conf (ar any othe
way, like networkmanager).
gprs does not need more than one setting since you usually
>
> you can do that in wpa_supplicant.conf.
> just add your different wifi-aps to the conf (it does wep and no enc, too)
> and let wpa_supplicant handle it.
I'll take a look.
But there must be something I don't understand.
Because if wpa_supplicant handle only wifi, what about usb, gprs or
other
> Not so easy :
> - you may have 2 places where the same interface has different
> parameters (wifi at home and wifi at work ...). So you can't just add
you can do that in wpa_supplicant.conf.
just add your different wifi-aps to the conf (it does wep and no enc, too)
and let wpa_supplicant handl
Mike Baroukh, 2008-08-10 12:43:49 +0200 :
>>
>> Putting scripts into /etc/network/if-up.d would probably work.
>
> Not so easy :
> - you may have 2 places where the same interface has different
> parameters (wifi at home and wifi at work ...). So you can't just add
> "[pre|post]-up" parameters in
>
> Putting scripts into /etc/network/if-up.d would probably work.
Not so easy :
- you may have 2 places where the same interface has different
parameters (wifi at home and wifi at work ...). So you can't just add
"[pre|post]-up" parameters in /etc/network/interface.
- Not so easy to configure tan
Mike Baroukh, 2008-08-10 00:52:11 +0200 :
> But I'm asking this : When using wifi or usb, I don't need a proxy.
> When using GPRS, I need a proxy.
> I will not re-configure anything each time.
>
> Does somebody know if there is a solution ?
Putting scripts into /etc/network/if-up.d would probab
Hi.
I succeded to connect to GRPS with FSO.
I never succedeed under OM2007 or ASU.
If somebody is interested, I'm in France and my provider is Bouyges Telecom.
I completed http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS with my APN.
But I'm asking this : When using wifi or usb, I don't need a p
After a while it became clear it was only reproducible when my neo can visibly
see my router. When there's concrete in between it doesn't work for my neo.
My notebook on the other hand reports 60% signal strength and can connect in
seconds.
When udhcpc is sending "discovers" I can see on my rou
Ok, I switched to wpa. I had to change the key anyway (If you watch the
iwconfig output I posted, you can see my wep-key :P ).
Peter
Op Friday 25 July 2008 00:06:38 schreef Evan:
> "wep_key0="
>
> its wep, therefore obsolete. if anyone lives near you and wants to know
> your key, they will tak
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
>> Is it possible to leave the USB connection up, so you can work on the
>> Freerunner via ssh, and at the same time bring up the WIFI?
> sure -- just have wifi and usb0 on different networks (e.g.
> 192.168.0.0/24 for usb and 192.168.1.0/24 for wifi). the only glitch
> mi
With udhcpc eth0 immediatly after ifup eth0 I seem to get an IP
(reproducably!). I also did ifdown usb0 now before I did ifup eth0. I was
planning to that _after_ I got an IP on eth0. Thanks for the help!
Peter Nijs
Op Thursday 24 July 2008 23:09:12 schreef Jim Morris:
> Make sure you do ifdown
"wep_key0="
its wep, therefore obsolete. if anyone lives near you and wants to know
your key, they will take the 10 minutes or less that it takes to crack
any wep key. consider wpa
Jim Morris wrote:
Make sure you do ifdown usb0 before ifup eth0
Then if dhcp does not get a lease first tim
> Is it possible to leave the USB connection up, so you can work on the
> Freerunner via ssh, and at the same time bring up the WIFI?
sure -- just have wifi and usb0 on different networks (e.g.
192.168.0.0/24 for usb and 192.168.1.0/24 for wifi). the only glitch
might come if you are going to acce
It's also worth using wpa_cli to see whether wpa_supplicant it associating
with the AP properly.
On Thursday 24 July 2008, Jim Morris wrote:
> Make sure you do ifdown usb0 before ifup eth0
>
> Then if dhcp does not get a lease first time through (which for me is about
> 50/50) then you can do th
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Jim Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Make sure you do ifdown usb0 before ifup eth0
>
> Then if dhcp does not get a lease first time through (which for me is about
> 50/50)
> then you can do this from the console which always gets the lease for me.
>
> > udhcp
Make sure you do ifdown usb0 before ifup eth0
Then if dhcp does not get a lease first time through (which for me is about
50/50)
then you can do this from the console which always gets the lease for me.
> udhcpc eth0
After that wifi should work.
Peter Nijs wrote:
> After a whole lot of tweaki
After a whole lot of tweaking I still cannot get an IP from my wireless
router. My current setup looks like this:
/etc/network/interfaces:---
# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
#
;
>
>
>>>>get the instructions for using WIFI on freerunner posted to the wiki.
>>>>
>
>
>>>>Michael assist.
>>>>
>
>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>
>
>>>
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, papa-piet wrote:
>> Hi Ian,
>> check out that one:
>> http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=295#p2956
> wow... someone (at best original author) should simply create a project
> within openmoko.org for those openmokoscripts and see i
Michael assist.
> >> Steve
> >> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:32 PM
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>> Subject: Re: Fast questions (email, GPRS, WiFi...)
>>
>> Diego Fernández Durán wrote:
>>> - Is there any UI to conect using WiFi? and
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>
> Diego Fernández Durán wrote:
>> - Is there any UI to conect
>
> > I've been trying for several hours to get wifi working, it never seems to
> connect although it can
> > see my station.
> >
> > I tried this too as it makes sense to turn off usb0, but that didn't seem
> to work either, I wrote
> > this script to make it easy from console (I also tried ifconf
Jim Morris wrote:
> Alexander Syring wrote:
>> I think you have to bring up a nameserver
>>
>> echo namserver 1.2.3.4 > /etc/resolv.conf
>>^ ip of nameserver to use
>>
>>
>>
>
> Good point, I already have a hardwired resolv.conf, and the wifi and usb can
> use the
Alexander Syring wrote:
> I think you have to bring up a nameserver
>
> echo namserver 1.2.3.4 > /etc/resolv.conf
>^ ip of nameserver to use
>
>
>
Good point, I already have a hardwired resolv.conf, and the wifi and usb can
use the same dns for now.
Wifi does s
Alexander Syring wrote:
> And probably you have to del the usb0 default route
>
> route del default gw 192.168.0.202
>
That seems to happen automatically when I do
ifdown usb0
ifup eth0
routes look good now, but wifi is flaky, keeps just stopping, but as the ssh
also freezes its hard
to say
And probably you have to del the usb0 default route
route del default gw 192.168.0.202
Am Sonntag, 13. Juli 2008 01:14:59 schrieb Jim Morris:
> Ok using these scripts u and d (below) and the suggestion below it works,
> but is unreliable, I can ssh into it over wifi, but it quickly loses its
>
I think you have to bring up a nameserver
echo namserver 1.2.3.4 > /etc/resolv.conf
^ ip of nameserver to use
Am Sonntag, 13. Juli 2008 01:14:59 schrieb Jim Morris:
> Ok using these scripts u and d (below) and the suggestion below it works,
> but is unreliable, I
Ok using these scripts u and d (below) and the suggestion below it works, but
is unreliable, I can
ssh into it over wifi, but it quickly loses its connection, not sure why yet.
# u this turns on wifi and usb0 off
ifdown usb0
ifup eth0
# d this brings back usb0
ifdown eth0
killall wpa_supplicant
> Although it says encryption key off, but I presume wpa_supplicant is
> handling that.
says here, too. but since my ap does only wpa and the fr can reach inet
it's probably only cosmetic.
> So its connected to my access point, and I turned off eth0, but I cannot
> ping the wireless,
eith
arne anka wrote:
> well, i did what
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_wlan
> says -- adding
>
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
>
Ok that worked, although I have some routing issues now. The manual method did
not work though.
> iwconfig
eth0 AR
well, i did what
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_wlan
says -- adding
iface eth0 inet dhcp
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
to /etc/network/interfaces. make sure, the path to wpa_supplicant.conf
matches yours.
to fire wkan w/ wpa up i have to do
ifup eth0
not sure, though,
Russell Sears wrote:
> I do this:
>
> ifdown eth0
> iwconfig eth0 essid "TheEssid" && ifup eth0 && ifdown usb0
>
> I haven't setup wpa or even wep though...
>
> - What does iwconfig say before you do udhcpc? Did the card associate
> with the access point (non-zero link quality)? Did the card
I'll try these things but without a usb connection and ssh terminal they are
all very hard to do
from the on screen terminal window :)
My access point shows up in the scan list, but does not connect, and I don't
see and errors.
Russell Sears wrote:
> I do this:
>
> ifdown eth0
> iwconfig eth0
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>
> Diego Fernández Durán wrote:
> > - Is there any UI to conect usi
Subject: Re: Fast questions (email, GPRS, WiFi...)
Diego Fernández Durán wrote:
> - Is there any UI to conect using WiFi? and with GPRS?
> - Is network-manager been ported?
> - The NM backend?
> - Anybody is doing an UI for this?
I havne't seen any wifi UI applica
I do this:
ifdown eth0
iwconfig eth0 essid "TheEssid" && ifup eth0 && ifdown usb0
I haven't setup wpa or even wep though...
- What does iwconfig say before you do udhcpc? Did the card associate
with the access point (non-zero link quality)? Did the card discover
the access points MAC address
ian douglas wrote:
> I havne't seen any wifi UI applicaiton yet. I SSH'd into my Freerunner,
> edited /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf to alter the essid and
> key, typed "ifup eth0", then unplugged the USB cable, opened a terminal,
> ran "ifconfig usb0 down", opened the browser and navigat
Diego Fernández Durán wrote:
> - Is there any UI to conect using WiFi? and with GPRS?
> - Is network-manager been ported?
> - The NM backend?
> - Anybody is doing an UI for this?
I havne't seen any wifi UI applicaiton yet. I SSH'd into my Freerunner,
edited /etc/wpa_supplicant/w
Hi all,
My FR is here! :) The 8GB Sandisk card works flawlessly.
Now a few simple questions:
- Is there any UI to conect using WiFi? and with GPRS?
- Is network-manager been ported?
- The NM backend?
- Anybody is doing an UI for this?
- Can I help? [1]
- Is there any
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