Hello Openmoko community,
I have just ordered my GTA02 hardware unit from Golden Delicious a few
days ago, and I greatly look forward to receiving it in the next few
weeks (intercontinental shipping and all). But the real purpose of this
introductory post of mine is to announce what I plan to do
Hello again,
Thanks to everyone who has responded to my introductory post with
helpful tips and suggestions!
Radek Polak wrote:
> As for good power management - it's given by HW design and linux kernel.
> You can't affect very much from userspace.
But doesn't the userspace need to tell the ker
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG31rCHZXh4
>
> The winner is ...
> ... find out yourself!
Some of us can't access YouTube because it's blocked (employer/etc).
Would you mind telling us in plain ASCII?
MS
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Hello again,
As I was browsing through the Om community documentation, I saw a note
somewhere (I think it was somewhere in the wiki, but I have a hard time
finding it again) saying that the native NAND flash on the GTA02 should
not be used for anything but the bootloader, and that the OS/distro
sh
Hello Openmoko community,
I have come across a Chinese mobile phone forum containing a decent
quantity of leaked/liberated Calypso GSM chipset documents:
http://www.52rd.com/bbs/Forum_68_13_0.html
It's all in Chinese and seems to use some kind of credit system to
restrict how much one can downlo
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> If Openmoko Inc. had had such a reputation I doubt TI would have given
> them anything in the first place.
Holes in that argument:
1. Openmoko Inc. was a brand-new company created for the express purpose
of doing the free / open source phone project. Being a bra
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> Calypso wasn't brought by Openmoko Inc. as company. Previously it was
> part of bigger company, FIC - I guess that's why they got it. It was
> much later when Openmoko Inc. was splitted into another, standalone
> company.
OK, that's fine. In that regard FIC can b
Gennady Kupava wrote:
> Interesting point. I noticed that all my last GSM failures with GTA were
> related to simple fact that CPU itself were working, but GSM do not
> because simple battery discharge.
The set of Calypso docs I have found and put up on my FTP site (see the
other thread) includ
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> As such, this is the kind of information that is not very desireable to be
> associated with a Free Software project, because even if the developers
> had no problem publishing it, it would be very likely no distributor would
> ever like it, and even the ISPs used
Radek Polak wrote:
> If you want to have the system stable NAND is good choice. I never had single
> filesystem corruption with JFFS2 even after pulling battery. With SD card and
> ext2/ext3 you will probably hit filesystem corruption after unclean resets.
Yup, that's what I was thinking too.
Paul Fertser wrote:
> But why? All OM had were some loosy sources for the gpio (and such)
> init plus AT intepreter. No lower layers at all, only blobs. OsmocomBB
> is already doing _much more_, so those "original sources" would add
> nothing to it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought
Paul Fertser wrote:
> What exactly do you want to change in it? Disabling RRLP? Having AT
> command intepreter sources wouldn't help it, also i'm not sure if the
> original firmware had that "functionality" implemented in the first
> place.
I have no way of knowing a priori whether I would want/
openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) wrote:
> is there any geek out there who can extract from the secret GSM chipset
> documents on the Chinese site, if there is any "hidden backdoor channel"
> (for governmental purposes e.g.) ? or any other strange "secret" GSM
> modem commands ?
If su
Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote:
> Not a good idea, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pirate-party.html
There are some major differences between what I'm doing (and have been
doing all my life) and the stereotypical "pirate":
* The stereotypical "pirate" is content with the mediocre quality and
Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote:
> * there was an abandoned port of nuttx, [...]
Before we can have any meaningful discourse on the relative merits of
various options, we first need to be on an equal footing. Right now we
are not. At the present moment there exist two massive inequalities in
the
Hello again everyone,
I am pleased to announce that a very helpful comrade has pointed me to a
website containing the TSM30 source I was looking for, the same one
which I've been told had been sitting openly on SourceForge for a
whopping 5 y before being taken down. I have downloaded the huge fil
Patryk Benderz wrote:
> Apart of legal aspects, why don't you just make it a torrent and let all
> who want to host it? This is very efficient way to spread big files over
> the net.
Learning curve: never worked with torrents and no time to learn right
now.
The ware is in the form of a single I
Brian Wilson wrote:
> Excuse me, Michael did you say "VAX" server? :-)
Yes, I maintain several VAXen here:
http://ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG/Quasijarus/
One is the FTP server, another is my mail server, plus other machines
and functions.
> Once you replace it
Who said "replace"? I will *never* giv
SZENTE =?UTF-8?B?QsOhbGludA==?= wrote:
> Same here with Claws-Mail. His mail client does not put the
> "In-Reply-To:" and "References:" in the mail header.
That's right, it doesn't. It is 30 y old and well predates those
conventions.
Patryk Benderz wrote:
> Could you do something with that?
Dmitry Chistikov wrote:
> I'm sure your skills are strong enough to improve your MUA, i.e., to teach
> it how to insert proper References:/In-Reply-To:. Could you devote a small
> amount of your time to this thing? I'm quite convinced that all of your
> correspondents, including people reading th
Sorry to bother y'all again with another stupid question... I have
finally received my GTA02 hardware unit, and I'm starting to bring up
my software stack. Starting with the bootloader. I want to use U-Boot,
not Qi. And I have two questions which I hope someone might be able to
help me with:
1
Gennady.Kupava wrote:
> I tried to fix few annoying bugs and using own u-boot version, you can
> find description here:
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot-gena2x
I think I have mis-expressed myself in my original post... I am not
looking for a prebuilt binary, I want a source tree that I
Gennady.Kupava wrote:
> Nice that you care about licenses,
More precisely, I care about freedom. GPL's requirement of providing
the source simply happens to coincide with an identical requirement in
my personal belief system.
> no violation because link to sources
> is provided on wiki page
O
Hello Openmoko community,
I've got some Glamo chip docs on my FTP site which I thought someone
here might find useful, given that this chip is used on the GTA02:
ftp://ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG/pub/GSM/GTA02/Glamo/
Enjoy!
MS
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Antonio Murdaca wrote:
> So, it's a dream to have a full GTA04 with case,battery,screen etc etc in a
> real near future? :( I mean, i have to buy a GTA01/02 and do the stuff to
> replace the mothherboard to have a GTA04
When you gut your GTA02s to stuff GTA04 boards into them, PLEASE don't
throw
Hello Om community,
Given that the GTA04 contains an off-the-shelf UMTS module and, if my
understanding is correct, truly off-the-shelf GSM/GPRS/UMTS modems in
the consumer USB stick form factor have been used during the
BeagleBoard prototyping phase for the GTA04, I've figured that someone
here m
Martix wrote:
> If you really have that sources, you can upload them on some public file
> sharing website and post link here on mailing list.
I don't know of any public file sharing websites to which anyone can
upload anything.
> Of course, you are going to lose control over this files
What
Martix wrote:
> For example Rapidshare or maybe Ubuntu One on your laptop...
The Ubuntu laptop isn't mine, it belongs to my employer du jour.
Because it's too much like Weendoze, I refuse to personally own a
Ubuntu machine. Learning how to use Ubuntu One isn't very appealing
to me.
> Ok, so le
Martix wrote:
> Ok, no need to hurry. Openmoko community waited for more than three
> years for full open access to whole GTA02 internals, we can wait another
> month.
The CD set destined for Cryptome, including the TSM30 CD, has been
written and will go out in the mail tomorrow (Friday): the
The bubble mailer with the TSM30 CD among other things is now on its
way to Cryptome; the post office has told me to expect around 2-3 days
delivery.
Hopefully the archivists at Cryptome will be interested in hosting
this stuff, as it would cut out the delay of waiting for me to get
around to sett
David Pottage wrote:
> I think you will find that it is imposible to make data calls to an
> analoge modem. The reason is that GSM and it's sucessor standards are
> inherently digital, and are derived from ISDN telephone standards, so
> nothing in your phone or in the phone network will create to
Hello Openmoko community,
I am happy to announce that the archivists at Cryptome.org have added
my contribution of the TSM30 source to their website collection:
http://cryptome.org/tsm30/tsm30.7z
The content inside is exactly the same as what I have, they have
merely repackaged it from ISO to 7z
Ben Thompson wrote:
> Here is my attempt :-
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Gta02a6_comms_chips_under_shield.JPG
This photo is pretty good - thanks! From it we can tell that:
* The RF transceiver chip is TRF6151C, just like the one on the
Leonardo board for which we have the docs. It'
Ben Thompson wrote:
> If someone on this list from Spain would buy a TSM30
> I would be happy to buy it from them (at a reasonable price),
Me too.
Alternatively, if someone else succeeds in obtaining a TSM30, please
share your resulting findings:
* exactly what chips are inside
* any other hw
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> it is obvious why the open and free software community needs
> a device where every individual has control over the software.
But isn't the GTM601 GSM/UMTS modem in the GTA04 just as closed as any
other? How is then GTA04 an improvement over GTA02 in terms of
o
Radek Polak wrote:
> What's the point in investing time into device that is no longer manufactured
> and the number of users is decreasing to zero?
If it is so worthless in your eyes, why are you (not Radek personally,
but some others in this community) guarding that "moko" fw src/object
code s
Radek Polak wrote:
> With my wooden case i had fully working phone - only single part
> that was from GTA02 was the speaker + microphone. I really dont
> think this is big problem.
Yes, and if I wanted to do the same thing (use a self-made wooden
case), I could have done it just as well with my
Radek Polak wrote:
> i am rather saying:
> (shortage of existing GTA02 units) -> (GTA04 is the solution)
It is *a* solution for some classes of users. It is not *the*
solution for all use cases.
> Also pool graphics performace of GTA02 make the user experience very bad -
> hardly acceptable f
"arne anka" wrote:
> so, what do you group tour subscribers plan to do with the replaced parts?
> just sink them in the waste basket? hang on the wall? or do you have a
> meaningful solution?
Please please please don't waste them, please make them available to
people like me who like GTA02 B
"arne anka" wrote:
> but if nikolaus is ok with that (re-stocking the used GTA02 boards, that
> is :-), that's certainly solution.
As I understand it, he already does that.
> - what's so hackable about the calypso fw? as far as i recall, it was a
> major afford to get an updated fw and make
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Could it be possible that those "greedy bastards" don't even exist except
> in your wishful thinking?
I don't buy that - I don't buy the fairy-tale that each and every
former employee of Om-Inc who had NDA'd access to The Treasure has
refrained from sneaking a p
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> IMHO that has nothing to do with freedom at all. Just personal enrichment.
Objection: it is *NOT* personal enrichment if I share. If I were to
ever get a hold of the ware that I am after, I would NOT greedily
hoard it for myself like its current holders are doi
"Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli" wrote:
> That points nowhere.
For you maybe, but not for me.
> I think you should instead try to go the legal way,
I disagree. Man-made law of every kind is my arch-enemy, and the
purpose of my life is to break those laws. Without law-breaking life
becomes devoid of
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