I submitted a story to slashdot.org about the openmoko project but it
got voted down ( no shortage of storys about the iPhone though) so
could any slashdot members who want to see a story about openmoko.org
on slashdot head to this link and vote it up,
Just in case your worried about being at work when openmoko.com goes
live, here's a handy website
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
Input the 9th and Taiwan into the field to 'convert from' and input
your location into the 'convert to' fields.
Assuming openmoko goes live at
Just in case your worried about being at work when openmoko.com goes
live, here's a handy website
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
Input the 9th and Taiwan into the field to 'convert from' and input
your location into the 'convert to' fields.
Assuming openmoko goes live at
Okay, since I seem to frequently function as the injector of some
reality into these discussions (aka wet blanket), yes, drilling a hole
in the case is straightforward. Now, how do you propose to actually wire
the camera module into the rest of the system, dare I ask...?
The gpio pins?
It shipped!
I'm so jealous I live abroad and have to wait another day to have my
neo sent, and than wait some time, just to wait to pay tax at customs
when neo arrives to Poland!
;-)
So, the shipping for rest of the world?
Mine's coming tomorrow and I live in the U.K.
A UPS person
I sent the following to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The domain freeopenmoko.com which is in your IP range is giving false
information.
The worst of it is that the testimonials claiming to have received a
Neo 1973 phone were up on the website before the phone was even
released.
The website also does not say
I will like to to have a peek at the Neo debug board's schematics or
pinouts. I need to access the uarts as well as the jtag. Does anyone have
any idea?
we already are in the process of releasing the neo debug board
schematics since we believe that it would be useful not only for the
If you upload rootfs image that is smaller that previous one it
won't work - you need to attach to bootloader, erase NAND and then
upload your rootfs first:
cu -l /dev/ttyACM0
GTA01Bv3 # nand erase rootfs
This *should* help but I am trying to understand why dfu-util can't
do that?
Somebody from Symbian is reading this list?
Its good we've caught the eye of some major players in the smartphone field.
Maybe he should tell the IT admin he's left so they can recinde his
@symbian.com email address.
I loved it when I receive a vacation response from Nokia, and now
symbian ;)
I have some pictures of GTA02a1 and GTA02a2 (still in progress) here
for anyone interested:
Why are the file sizes so big? especially on the screenshots, why
aren't they 640x480?
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On 02/10/2007, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have uploaded a Qtopia snapshot version flash image for the Neo.
a few Known issues:
* suspend/resume not fully working. must restart Qtopia to get modem working
again.
* inputmethod covers some widgets (bluetooth settings)
* no modem
Compulab does have, and has always had, very interesting
embedded boards.
does anyone know the word on openness of their hardware?
If you want open hardware, Balloon boards at http://balloonboard.org/
seem the most likely candidate, buy enough and you can specify your
own components
what i would like is a (v. small) device that i can carry in my
wallet, or somewhere, that sounds a reminder (on the phone, or
external device) when it moves out of range.
How about hacking a bluetooth dongle to sound an alarm when the thing
is out of range of its paired device (the neo), but
Anyone willing to placate my concerns, or point out other phones that
meet my requirements (must fill _all_ the requirements I listed, so
please check carefully).
Since your asking on the openmoko list I'd be surprised if anyone
recommends anything but the neo1973
As a final point, I'll note
Not sure if thats good or bad. :)
I have noticed some oddities on first boot as well. Sim contacts don't
always seem to get populated.
This doesn't seem to be a qtopia issue, more of an neo issue.
I've found opening the back, taking the battery out and fiddling with
the sim card holder seems
At a recent conference the hosts gave away a free iPhone to its
attendees but they were annoyed that they couldn't buy them in bulk
and other things, long story short for the next conference they have
proposed designing and building a completely open Internet tablet.
On 29/11/2007, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
give me 20 phones in a neat box just like the gta01 arrived in, and
i'll do my best to sell a box a week. seriously!
The current plan is to_sell_them. seriously!
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Can anyone comment on this company?
http://www.fluffyspider.com/resources/press/pr.20070925.0.html
that picture of the neo is an early photoshopped version from the
openmoko press office with a screenshot of their software superimposed
on it.
couldn't they get a SH1 neo to demonstrate it on?
That shut me up
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Have you had problems running gllin under Qtopia?
My Neo doesn´t get a fix from the satellites...
Yeah, it took me ages to get a fix too, I only got one by standing
outside, maybe the neos GPS antenna is not as sensitive as a dedicated
GPS receiver .
Its very good, goxboxlive, the display could
My image togehter with the kernel uImage can be downloaded from here:
http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/images/
regards gxl
I've got a problem with that image, the contents of my sd card must
have been erased when I flashed the image and when i reupload the
files to it they don't
I've used the Neo (last revision, with latest OpenMoko or qt images) now
for almost one month. When fully charged, I can use the Neo for several
hours. I often use it only for one hour and then I shut it off
completely. The next day I try to power it on - with no success at all.
Yeah, the
here can you find nice photos from a complete black device.
http://linuxtogo.org/~mickeyl/misc/ = the DSC* files.
The photos has been shot by mickeyl :)
The site is down at the moment but I did find this at people.openomoko.org
http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/misc/MOV02905.MPG
posted today
What is your favorite Linux CAD tool for actual 3D work?
Blender seems to import .dxf files though I've never tried any thing
other than native files.
Get it at www.blender3d.org
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On 16/01/2008, Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me.
Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ?
I haven't flashed an openmoko image in a while so I'm not sure how
easy it is to get it usable as a phone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] unzip GTA01_dimensions.zip
Archive: GTA01_dimensions.zip
creating: GTA01_dimensions/
inflating: GTA01_dimensions/_2in1_hinge_asm.prt.1
inflating: GTA01_dimensions/_gbsa-100a.prt.1
inflating: GTA01_dimensions/_p06.prt.1
inflating: GTA01_dimensions/_v_l_any.prt.1
So in short, what happens after the GTA02?
I think anyone who's involved in getting this device to market is not
thinking that far ahead as their time is taken up with the GTA02 (now
called Freerunner)
... that is cloud thinking at the moment.
You answered your own question
Interesting note on the qtopia image I tried.. they'd receive texts, but
not *appear* to register on the network/allow calls. All academic as
this is the openmoko list though.
Do you mean the the signal strength meter did not show but a message
saying no network did?
I've come across a way
Why not just have a wiki page with a link to ebay.com so buyers and
sellers have a degree of protection when trading?.
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so when is openmoko going to implement gifi? :)
Since its good for only 10 metres its not going to replace wi-fi, it
may replace bluetooth.
What I want to know is if openmoko is going to implement wi-max.
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Will this thing support mobile internet (like Edge or G3?) I saw support for
G2.5, but wasn't sure if G3 was backwards compatible.
Its GPRS, it is not G3 backwards compatible
Is there a list of standard software features that will be installed on the
phone? Everything I saw seemed to outline
Sorry to burst your bubble but the Qtopia release has this already, I
haven't executed the program but it seems to be the same as qtopia's
behaviour where you hold your finger on an area of the keyboard and a
little circle comes up with an enlarged view of the keyboard so you
can precisley select
On 16/03/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to get some sort of a concrete update from the team in
Taiwan. I'll let you know as soon as I do.
Don't rush on the hardware, your doing a bang up job already
(translation for non-british: thumbs up), I'd rather
I have a question:
It will be a long life cellphone? Or will it just be some fragile geek
toy to use with care?
Since you can install anything on it thanks to the openness of the
device, it will remain useful for as long as the device works, for
instance some people are planning to make a
The machine config file for gta01 and gta02 machines has been renamed
to om-gta01 and om-gta02 to reflect better the manufacturer of the
phones is actually Openmoko.
I thought FIC made the phones? Openmoko is software only.
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After reading the subject line, I almost flagged that as spam
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I'll fix that when I get a chance. Meanwhile, simply rename it to remove
the .1 extension:
Or maybe...
rename *.prt.1 *.prt *
when cd'd into the directory with the files should rename them all in
one fell swoop.
I say maybe because I dont have the zip file but it should rename
them from
BTW since the Openmoko phones aren't commercial phones, to find the
screen protector with the right size (or something bigger), I'd need to know
which other phone/PDA has the same screen size of the Freerunner.
Do you have advices for this?
There are cut-to size screen protectors available,
Let me give you another example... I've probably showed 20 people pics of
the Neo1973. You want to know what I hear? Man, that's ugly! That's
what I hear every time. Now you're thinking so what? it's functional.
You and I may not care what it looks like, but consumers do. I'm guessing
no
am i right in thinking that the root account on the openmoko has no
password - if so is that not quite a large security hole what with wifi
and sshd being enabled, or is sshd only available over usb?
You are correct, the root account on the phone has a blank password,
Since no one has wifi
Can the openmoko mobile be used as a mass storage device, or can it be
networked with windows???
you should be able to transfer files over to the neo/freerunners sd
card using bluetooth.
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is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state of OM ?
Especially with the 'switch' to Qt I would like to know how both environments
interact graphically.
None there at the moment, but you might want to keep an eye on
scap.linuxtogo.org
2008/6/3 Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think he was looking for pictures of the ASU.
I was hoping that a Freerunner owner would post some ASU screenies on
that site in future
2008/6/3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In essense I was looking for pictures that give me an Idea of the OM user
experience to
Those AJAX image widgets seem to be designed adversarially. They
prevent tabbed browsing of images, make it difficult to link to an
image, impose additional delays on the viewer, and introduce a new UI
for navigating the galleries that doesn't fit in with any existing
browser.
Yeah, I don't
I was going to sign up with the London groupbuy, but nobody has
asserted themselves to be the main purchaser.
HantsLUG's groupbuy is a more attractive prospect because it is
organized through an existing LUG and includes notable people such as
Andy Smith and Alan Pope so there's less chance of
we would need you to send us one of your devices so that we can take precise
measurements and design the invisibleSHIELD to fit your smartphone the best.
maybe we can persuade Steve (or someone
else at Openmoko) to send a sample to their company?
Note that they don't mention that it needs to
This means no longer being able to mix sounds, but rather stick them
into a queue and play them sequentially.
Someone else has already mentioned SMS notification whilst listening
to music, but also my GPS concept is affected. If a driver is
approaching an accident blackspot he cannot afford
There was a post on engadget mobile that suggested some have been
released.
I cant find it, you got a link?
On Sunday 15 June 2008 00:03, steve wrote:
I'm not exactly sure. I havent asked if they have a continous process or
if they build a bunch of PCB and then assemble. Like, build a
I have access to Pro/E and am willing to convert the Wildfire 3 files into
something else. What do you prefer? IGES (Wireframe or Solid?), or STEP
(Wireframe or Solid?)?
.DXF would be nice
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nerdyH writes Openmoko has begun shipping its Linux-based, open source Neo
Freerunner phone to five newly announced distributors, in Germany, France,
and India, says the company.
/me checks Gmail and finds nothing on the announce list so heart
recommences beating.
That said, Openmoko is getting a lot of attention right now because of
that article, so it's probably a very good thing to have some form of
anticipation building message or teaser product there to keep the hype
going...
Not all of it good, If anyone has mod points on slashdot can they mod
I get the impression that only qtopia has daily builds, is that correct?
No, ASU has it too
If wee want to use ASU the most recent is the one from 2.) i.e. May 20?
Try here
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080703/
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Is this not qtopia?
or is ASU hidden behind this:
Sorry, I just realised I posted the exact same url as you did.
ASU does include qtopia apps, but it also has the shelf widgets (the
popdown menu at the top of the screen)
So, I don't understand the comments on ancient parts. What have we
compromised on by choosing these parts?
There was a previous discussion on this subject that boils down to the
latest components needed to be bought in bulk, i.e. 500,000 peices,
FIC couldn't justify buying so much so went
2008/7/8 Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Speaking very honestly, I don't use my Freerunner in daily use but I
use my 1973 with Qtopia since it's pretty stable and functional.
Are you saying a neo1973 is more reliable then a freerunner?
Is qtopia on GTA01 more stable than on GTA02?
If so I'll put
How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv'
etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this,
or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by
the way.
I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to
the
2008/7/14 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyway, once booted to the factory image I get continuously a
Registering... message in the top-left corner of the Home screen.
After 30 minutes or so this message persists.
Yeah, I get that with my neo1973 from time to time, maybe the SIM
contacts are'nt
I can enter vi to start editing the file, but having switched to
editing mode I can't exit it (back to command mode) because there's
no Escape key on the keyboard! Thus I can't save the edited file!
While it won't help at the moment, qtopia has included a terminal on
its latest image which has
2008/7/15 Edward A. Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Is there a way to control volume yet? When I turn on my phone, the
sounds are so loud and completely distorted that I'm afraid I'm going to
blow out the speakers.
SSH into the device and type
#alsamixer
then adjust the sound using the sliders
SSH into the device and type
#alsamixer
then adjust the sound using the sliders
That did the trick. Headphone and PCM were both at 95%. Setting them
to 90% and 80% respectively was a reasonable level. Any lower than
that, and I couldn't hear it at all.
Glad to be of help
Maybe its karma or something but in the last 24 hours I've noticed
that there is a very dark smudge on the LCD on my neo1973 .. this
happened after I left the neo1973 on all night, and it appears to be a
permanently damaged LCD - nothing I do has been able to get rid of
it. Could it be
2008/8/18 yangm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I want to buy a openmoko. how to connect you ? and price?
I'm living Cambridge for a business travel, and I will go back China at Sep
5th.
Get them from here
https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=OpenMoko
for £272
How can I pay ? cash or
I'll be in New York beginning of October and would like to purchase 2 spare
batteries for my FR - any hints on where I could get them? Is there a local
distributor or buyers group with active orders, by any chance?
I've bought one of these for my neo1973
2008/9/15 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
From which you also find sad news. :|
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:25:43PM +0200, Bumbl wrote:
I found this at rasterman.com
which is raster's homepage
The sad news being Raster's quit the openmoko project, well not quite,
he is moving to
Basically what I want is to add 4 rechargable AAA batteries and plug that
into usb port.
That gives me about 1200ma at 4.8v, which should comply with the USB
specification (5v),
AAA batteries are 1.5 volts, so 4x1.5=6volts, if you find a diode that
has a voltage drop of 1 volt you won't need
as this games are not free me guess, there is no way to get this on a legal
way?
MAME roms are legal to download and use if you own the original, its
probably the same for any disk image, just buy the original at any
carboot, thrift store or $online_auction_site if you're worried about
the
Is there a way that /home/ is in my SD card? Only /home/, like we do in Linux
distributions... so I can flash whenever i want the Neo without loosing
configuration files, icons and stuff I am adapting for myself in the Neo?
Did you try
#link /media/card/home /home
Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the
better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200)
and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone.
4.3 is usable as a daily phone for me (YMMV),rock solid suspend and
resume, no dialer
I was thinking that one possible area where an open platform is needed
is The Console.
For a open gaming platform you might want to look at http://openpandora.org/
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Try these people
http://www.keyboardspecialist.co.uk/category/keyboard_type/frogpad/
Though they don't quote a price on the website.
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Try leaving the battery out over night then reinserting it and charging it.
I've got a neo1973 on its original battery so yours should still work
You can get a very cheap battery and charger from ebay, I provided a
link in a previous post
2009/1/28 Andy Selby andyfro...@googlemail.com:
Those links are no longer active as they link to ebay offers. Could you supply
a link to something more longterm. I'm interested in getting one of these as
I am sure are others.
These are the people who I got them off
http://stores.ebay.com
2009/4/13 Alexey Koptsevich ako...@gmail.com:
I have recently been in the same situation, the battery was completely dead.
I bought BL-6C Battery for Nokia 6235 6236i 6255 6255i 6256i on eBay from
the seller thamesmall, along with the wall charger Nokia 6300 bl-5c
bl-4c bl-6c
Battery Charger
Could anybody point me to the latest kernel and qt-embedded image that can run
on the NEO 1973 () so not on the Freerunner !!!
The latest I can find is the 18th of november Images.
The qtextended forums seem a bit quiet maybe qt dev is discussed
elsewhere but releases are a bit sparse from
i found the last 3/3/2009 image of Qt-extended.
Really!
Could you post a link?
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Hmm.. suppose this was not planned to be posted to community mailing list..?
I think it was meant for this other list
http://lists.frumppyoldwoman.com/listinfo.cgi/family-frumppyoldwoman.com
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2009/4/24 wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com:
... Micro SD card does it support ?
I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ?
I have a Transcend 4Gb sdhc card and it works fine with my neo1973.
I tried booting off of it but apparently the stock bootloader can't
boot
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