Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-05 Thread Marcio
-Original Message- >From: One Man >Sent: Jan 5, 2010 11:15 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question > >When the power goes out, you have no phone, like during a lightning storm, >very common here in Texass.  Hence the re

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-05 Thread One Man
s are only practical as supplements to another system. --- On Sat, 1/2/10, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 4:56 PM On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:24 PM, tjpa

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-04 Thread rleesimon
t;>cancall my number at MagicJack and listen to the messages and erase them. >> >>Marcio >> >> >>-Original Message- >>>From: Fred Holmes >>>Sent: Jan 1, 2010 8:59 PM >>>To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >>>Subject:

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-03 Thread rleesimon
by e-mail and open them with Nero. I also cancall >my number at MagicJack and listen to the messages and erase them. > >Marcio > > >-Original Message- >>From: Fred Holmes >>Sent: Jan 1, 2010 8:59 PM >>To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >>Subject: Re:

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-03 Thread rleesimon
:49 AM Subject: Re: MagicJack: a VoIP question I am not sure how this can be done. In the Magic Jack devise there is an outlet for the phone line. Marcio -Original Message- >From: rleesimon >Sent: Jan 2, 2010 5:30 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS]

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread Marcio
I am not sure how this can be done. In the Magic Jack devise there is an outlet for the phone line. Marcio -Original Message- >From: rleesimon >Sent: Jan 2, 2010 5:30 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question > >If you

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread Marcio
For free?... Marcio -Original Message- >From: tjpa >Sent: Jan 2, 2010 5:24 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question > >On Jan 2, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Marcio wrote: >> Yes but only Skype to Skype...for free. >

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread Ellen Rains Harris
My 91 year old mother in law skypes with her grandson in Germany. On both her Windows machine and her Macbook. - Original Message - From: "mike" To: Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question My mom is old...she skypes the d

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread mike
My mom is old...she skypes the daughter to see her and her grandson. Course old is always relative. On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:06 PM, tjpa wrote: > On Jan 2, 2010, at 5:56 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Hey, what if that computer is a Windows machine? Isn't it going to >> be locking up, cra

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread tjpa
On Jan 2, 2010, at 5:56 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, what if that computer is a Windows machine? Isn't it going to be locking up, crashing or falling victim to viruses all the time? How the heck could that thing possibly be up and running 24/7? Gosh, I wasn't thinking about Windows. No,

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:24 PM, tjpa wrote: > You old folks may not have noticed, but a modern household is going to have > a small computer sitting where the telephone used to sit. It will be running > Skype 24/7. Hey, what if that computer is a Windows machine? Isn't it going to be locking

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread rleesimon
Self contained stand alone skype fones for people with cable tv and get a bundled wifi or wired dsl or net and don't use the computer or want one or only have one in the kids' room... -Original Message- From: tjpa [mailto:t...@tjpa.com] Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:27 PM Subject: Re

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread Judy Cosler
secured? On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: > I've been looking for a Skype phone that isn't cordless/wireless (has a > wired handset, and connects to my router with an Ethernet Cat-5 cable). > Last time I looked (a couple of months ago), I couldn't find one. Using > Google

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread Fred Holmes
I've been looking for a Skype phone that isn't cordless/wireless (has a wired handset, and connects to my router with an Ethernet Cat-5 cable). Last time I looked (a couple of months ago), I couldn't find one. Using Google. Or the specs available on the web weren't such that I could tell what

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread mike
the idea is you can then take your free skype connection and walk around the house instead of being tied to the kitchen...or wherever you are keeping your computer. On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:27 PM, tjpa wrote: > On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:47 PM, rleesimon wrote: > >> They make skype fones. >> > > I lo

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread tjpa
On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:40 PM, rleesimon wrote: Skype only free when recipient also has skype ... You think it takes a lot of arm twisting to get somebody to sign up for a service that is free and saves them money? * **

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread tjpa
On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:47 PM, rleesimon wrote: They make skype fones. I looked, but don't see the point. Computer has great mic and camera and big screen already built in. Why pay money for something that does so much less and still needs to be connected to a computer?

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread rleesimon
They make skype fones. Best solution is skype on your ifone or wm smartphone and pirate off neighbors unsecured wifi .hehee! ...after all is said&done, when att and others get permission to get ridda pots (& some eyesore poles/wires), there may be a move afoot to make everyone who gets wifi for fo

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread rleesimon
Skype only free when recipient also has skype ... -Original Message- From: t.piwowar [mailto:t...@tjpa.com] Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:01 AM Subject: Re: MagicJack: a VoIP question Don't forget that you can also get VOIP services like Skype at zero cost.

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread rleesimon
cordless phone with two basis. Work fine. Marcio -Original Message- >From: Fred Holmes >Sent: Jan 1, 2010 9:21 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question > >The most modern phone you have that works on POTS is a "corded

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread rleesimon
Phonepower.com works without computer and the 911 feature works. -Original Message- From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:42 PM Subject: Re: MagicJack: a VoIP question Actually, that's two questions. First, you may use your existing telephones with MJ,

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread rleesimon
by e-mail and open them with Nero. I also cancall my number at MagicJack and listen to the messages and erase them. Marcio -Original Message- >From: Fred Holmes >Sent: Jan 1, 2010 8:59 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question &

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread rleesimon
If you plug in magic jack on computer, internal mic and spkr are all you need (I have IBM Thinkpad). Needs no fone. Dial on screen with mouse or via phonebook. -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: MagicJack: a VoI

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread rleesimon
I have it. I used it in Europe with an IBM x31 notebook with dsl speed internet ...it is flawless! No fone needed, used computer speakers and mic ...but, of course, you need to have the computer on and connected to a wifi source to use it. I also have phonepower.com device at home. Computer can

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread tjpa
On Jan 2, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Marcio wrote: Yes but only Skype to Skype...for free. You old folks may not have noticed, but a modern household is going to have a small computer sitting where the telephone used to sit. It will be running Skype 24/7. *

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-02 Thread Marcio
Yes but only Skype to Skype...for free. Marcio -Original Message- >From: "t.piwowar" >Sent: Jan 2, 2010 3:00 AM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question > >Don't forget that you can also get VOIP se

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Tony B
Actually, I have and occasionally use Skype, and that's not true. Only computer-to-computer Skype calls are free; fairly useless as a telephone replacement. Currently the only thing cheaper than MagicJack is Google Voice, which will presumably leave beta and open to the public this year. However, i

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread t.piwowar
Don't forget that you can also get VOIP services like Skype at zero cost. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ *

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Marcio
S] MagicJack: a VoIP question > >Yes and no. If you leave your VOIP (e.g. MagicJack) always at one specific >premises and register that premises with that telephone number at 911 (there >is a process for doing this), then you will have reliable 911 service, just as >landline numb

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Tony B
Actually, that's two questions. First, you may use your existing telephones with MJ, but you don't have to. It comes with an interface that easily switches to "headset" so any headset (or mic and speakers) can work. No, pulse dialing is ancient history. You could not dial a number from a rotary ph

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Marcio
I have a Vtech cordless phone with two basis. Work fine. Marcio -Original Message- >From: Fred Holmes >Sent: Jan 1, 2010 9:21 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question > >The most modern phone you have that works on

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Marcio
t;Sent: Jan 1, 2010 6:39 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question > >For my earlier message, a P.S. > > >(1) Is there a source for info about VoIP in general, not just related >to MagicJack. I am under the impression that o

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Fred Holmes
The most modern phone you have that works on POTS is a "corded handset". I suspect one could also use a cordless handset, if one were to plug the base station into the MagicJack. (just as the base station is plugged into the RJ-11 wall outlet the same way that a corded handset is plugged into

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Fred Holmes
At 06:39 PM 1/1/2010, Robert Carroll wrote: >(1) Is there a source for info about VoIP in general, not just related to >MagicJack. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VOIP Google VOIP. Google whatever terms you don't understand when reading about VOIP. *

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Fred Holmes
Cell phones with GPS can report their location exactly. Primitive cell phones can only report what tower they are currently connected to. The issue with 911 service is how to handle a phone that is mobile, i.e., is used away from home. MagicJack can be used away from home. Connect it to your

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Fred Holmes
Yes and no. If you leave your VOIP (e.g. MagicJack) always at one specific premises and register that premises with that telephone number at 911 (there is a process for doing this), then you will have reliable 911 service, just as landline numbers are registered with 911 (but the registration i

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I have looked into all of these and at present it makes no sense to me. None of the major VOIP carriers offer a local number so it is of no use for incoming. As I already bundle my phone service and have unlimited dialing plus all the calling features plus have an international plan it makes

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Fred Holmes
I use MagicJack as a second phone line for making outgoing calls. It works fine for me most of the time, but sometimes the call "breaks up" like some cell phone calls do. Not as reliable as POTS. It also requires a running computer to connect to the Internet. If you leave your computer on 24x

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
In answer to your questions: Whenever you sign up for a VOIP service you are assigned a phone number. They will give you (A.) a number based on the closest local exchange they offer. or (B.) a number based in an area code you choose, again based on the closest local exchange they offer. Th

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Robert Carroll
For my earlier message, a P.S. (1) Is there a source for info about VoIP in general, not just related to MagicJack. I am under the impression that only those who make many long-distance calls, especially international calls, can benefit from subscribing to VoIP since the cost of domestic lo

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
There was a FCC directive on this some time ago that required VOIP providers to give reliable 911 service. Check with the provider to make sure. I am pretty certain Vonage and them had to do so, or shut down. This even came up with Cell phone this year locally when it came out that some of th

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Marcio
t;Sent: Jan 1, 2010 6:00 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question > >In the 2010 February issue of Consumer Reports, there are tests of 15 >items sold on TV infomercials that use hard-sell language. As one may >suspect, most items did n

Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Judy Cosler
does one have reliable 911 with VoIP? thought one needed a landline for reliable, available 911. Pls. help me with this issue! On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Robert Carroll wrote: > In the 2010 February issue of Consumer Reports, there are tests of 15 items > sold on TV infomercials that use har

[CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

2010-01-01 Thread Robert Carroll
In the 2010 February issue of Consumer Reports, there are tests of 15 items sold on TV infomercials that use hard-sell language. As one may suspect, most items did not live up to the claims made therein. But one got a favorable review, the MagicJack for connecting to VoIP. The review follows