Re: The trend toward "signing away rights"

2002-12-10 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 07:03 AM, Trei, Peter wrote: Reality precedes fiction. Around Boston I sometimes see cars with an odd little sticker in the back window, white, round, with a stylized blue car in the top half (it can also be read as the face of someone wearing a fedora, peering o

Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S Hotel

2002-12-10 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 01:37 AM, Lucky Green wrote: James A. Donald wrote: In general wars lead to a major temporary reduction in liberty, but a smaller permanent reduction in liberty. Unfortunately the war on terror will probably never end, so there will be no recovery. I heard s

Re: The trend toward "signing away rights"

2002-12-10 Thread Steve Schear
At 08:24 PM 12/9/2002 -0800, Tim May wrote: Last night had a plot device on "The Practice" (a generally bad show...I ought to stop watching) where nearly all residents in an upscale burbclave had signed a pledge--reminiscent of my opening point--where owners of cars would invite the police to s

Re: [2600.com] Update On The Mike Maginnis Story

2002-12-10 Thread Tyler Durden
eJazeera, Baby! That guy should have had a tiny laptop or something that could wisk those images off the moment an 802.l1 port was detected. (Actually, it should wisk off a copy of the photos EVERY time an 802.11 port is detected!) In addition, wouldn't it be great if he had actually had a digi

Re: The trend toward "signing away rights"

2002-12-10 Thread Tyler Durden
> If you put one of these stickers on your car, you are giving the > police permission to pull the car over without probable cause if > they find it on the road late at night (1am-5am, or something like > that), just to check that all is in order. > > I think it's being promoted as an anti-theft to

Re: Supreme Court Refuses to Intervene in Money Laundering Disput e. Also Moving on (fwd)

2002-12-10 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 10:04:09AM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: > > Jim Choate[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > > On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Harmon Seaver wrote: > > > > >These ap.tbo.com links don't work. I get ap.tbo.com can't be found. I > > > mentioned this a few days ago. I can do a whois on t

RE: The trend toward "signing away rights"

2002-12-10 Thread Trei, Peter
> Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote [...] > Last night had a plot device on "The Practice" (a generally bad > show...I ought to stop watching) where nearly all residents in an > upscale burbclave had signed a pledge--reminiscent of my opening > point--where owners of cars would invi

Re: The trend toward "signing away rights"

2002-12-10 Thread Ken Brown
> Trei, Peter" wrote: > > If you put one of these stickers on your car, you are giving the > police permission to pull the car over without probable cause if > they find it on the road late at night (1am-5am, or something like > that), just to check that all is in order. > > I think it's being p

RE: CDR: Re: ...(one of them about Completeness)

2002-12-10 Thread Vincent Penquerc'h
Title: RE: CDR: Re: ...(one of them about Completeness) > Mathametics is incomplete,other wise we would have > known every thing about every thing. From our Popping in without the relevant background, I'm afraid, but I'll give my view on this long lasting thread anyway: Mathematics do not ha

RE: Supreme Court Refuses to Intervene in Money Laundering Dispute. Also Moving on (fwd)

2002-12-10 Thread Trei, Peter
> Jim Choate[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Harmon Seaver wrote: > > >These ap.tbo.com links don't work. I get ap.tbo.com can't be found. I > > mentioned this a few days ago. I can do a whois on tbo.com alright, but > a lookup > > on ap.tbo.com says non-existant host/d

Re: Money is about expected future value....nothing more, nothing less

2002-12-10 Thread Marcel Popescu
From: "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Isn't this what I said? Yes, I agreed with you with regard to the law as it is in the UK. I corrected my mistake. Mark

RE: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S Hotel

2002-12-10 Thread Lucky Green
James A. Donald wrote: > In general wars lead to a major temporary reduction in liberty, > but a smaller permanent reduction in liberty. Unfortunately > the war on terror will probably never end, so there will be no > recovery. I heard some governmental official on the radio the other day (I p

RE: Money is about expected future value....nothing more, nothi ng less

2002-12-10 Thread Vincent Penquerc'h
> Yep. If I owe you 100 quid, and I give you that value of English bank > notes, and you sue me in an English court saying I haven't paid, you > will lose. Which is fair enough - it is the state's court so > why should > they help you if you don't like the state's money? > > If I offer you 100 po

The trend toward "signing away rights"

2002-12-10 Thread Tim May
I'm watching a New York television news show reporting on one of the recent cases where people sign away their rights. This is about requests sent out by schools that parents of students sign a pledge that alcohol, loud parties, and late night activities will not be permitted at their homes and

Re: CDR: Re: ...(one of them about Completeness)

2002-12-10 Thread Sarad AV
hi, > > > Jim Choate says: > > > > > Godel's does -not- say mathematics is > incomplete, it says we can't prove > > > completeness -within- mathematics proper. To do > so requires a > > > meta-mathematics of some sort. Mathametics is incomplete,other wise we would have known every thing about e

Re: Digital Bearer Settlements Wiki

2002-12-10 Thread Steve Schear
At 10:29 PM 12/9/2002 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 4:52 PM -0800 on 12/9/02, Steve Schear wrote: > Haven't seen this discussed here. Meaning there is one, or you want to start one? Sorry I wasn't more clear. I meant I haven't seen this site discussed before. steve

Re: The trend toward "signing away rights"

2002-12-10 Thread Morlock Elloi
> I'm watching a New York television news show reporting on one of the > recent cases where people sign away their rights. This is about > requests sent out by schools that parents of students sign a pledge > that alcohol, loud parties, and late night activities will not be > permitted at their

Re: Supreme Court Refuses to Intervene in Money Laundering Dispute. Also Moving on (fwd)

2002-12-10 Thread Harmon Seaver
Jim; These ap.tbo.com links don't work. I get ap.tbo.com can't be found. I mentioned this a few days ago. I can do a whois on tbo.com alright, but a lookup on ap.tbo.com says non-existant host/domain On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 08:04:57PM -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/M

Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S Hotel

2002-12-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Anonymous wrote: > > It already has. And the hell with the horses -- tie the other end of the rope > to a fast car. That would give a new meaning to "drawn and quartered". There's a lot of bureaucrats who need that performed on them. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mi

Re: Akamai

2002-12-10 Thread Bill Stewart
At 08:52 AM 12/09/2002 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: Anyone know anything about Akamai (www.akamai.com, also akamaitechnologies.com)? I was getting about a zillion hits on my web server from them this morning. They seem to offer services to gov't agencies according to their website. Akamai's be