On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 7:48 PM Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> For the avoidance of doubt, the relevant partman-auto code is present
> in buster, bullseye, and bookworm.
Thanks for the correction; I was under the impression that this has
been more recent. I don't install my systems very often, basicall
I tried hibernation on Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 1, Gen 5, Gen 7, and Gen
11. They all work. As per
https://chaos.social/@waldi/110683468203241035 , I believe that the
definition of "modern system" Waldi refers to means catering to a
Windows world, something not deeply relevant to the Debian use case.
Hi Leopold,
did you have a chance to run the commands requested by Aurelien? This
bug is marked critical, but has been stale for more than a month, now.
Thanks,
Richard
Package: neomutt
Version: 20171215+dfsg.1-1
Severity: important
Rationale for important: smime_keys is an integral part of using mutt
with S/MIME keys.
Quoth the apt-file... neverpath.
% `apt-file search smime_keys`:
mutt: /usr/bin/smime_keys
mutt: /usr/share/doc/mutt/examples/smime_keys_test.pl
Package: mutt
Severity: normal
Now that the mutt package is back to an upstream version and a neomutt
package exists, I keep seeing installations of people break left and
right.
While the case could be made that neomutt and mutt are different, all
neomutt users I know consider neomutt the now-can
Control: severity -1 critical
Control: affects -1 docutils-common
This affects several packages, thus the severity change.
# dpkg --configure -a
Setting up docutils-common (0.12+dfsg-2) ...
Unknown option: sort
Usage:
update-xmlcatalog --add --root --type \
And uploaded.
I will package that soon(tm), maybe tonight. Sorry for missing that.
Richard
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Jftr, if I can help with a new package or build, do let me know.
Richard
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Hi,
feel free to use
dediserver.eu/misc/git-annex_6.20160418-1~bpo8+1_amd64.deb until its
"real" package migrated into testing.
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On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> While I think this is a technically sound proposal how to do hotlinking, I'm
> not sure I want to do that for the services I maintain, as a matter of
> principle. Hotlinking to a different site is bad, as this leaks visitor
> information to a
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
> Whenever possible please maintain meaningful subject. :)
Sorry; I usually do, but in this case I didn't as the BTS eats them anyway.
> It is a little bit tricky due to namespace problems but I already have
> unfinished draft of the packa
Hi Alexandre, Dmitry,
it seems all dependencies have been packaged. Is there still a
blocking issue anywhere?
FWIW, I can sponsor packages.
Thanks,
Richard
Kernel: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
>From 9c37dd418e8d3fb90be77b781baf28488ad4344a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Richard Hartmann
Date: Wed, 1
JFTR, I am sending mika & Zhenech a dump.
Richard
Package: git-annex
Version: 5.20150812-1
Severity: serious
Justification: fails to build from source (but built successfully in the past)
Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: normal
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Uploaded a new and fixed version without knowing about the removal and it
happened just before the upload. Bad timing, but git-annex will re-enter
sid, at least.
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Ian Jackson
wrote:
> 1. dpkg-buildpackage -d won't install dependencies. The -d just
> suppresses the check. So I think maybe you are confused ?
Given the heat, maybe.
> 2. If you just use
>dgit -wdd build
> aka
>dgit --clean=dpkg-source-d build
> I
Package: dgit
Version: 1.0
Severity: normal
Quoth the manpage:
dgit [dgit-opts] build|sbuild|build-source [build-opts]
Quoth the sourcecode:
Nervermore.
Long story short, running e.g.
dgit build -d
will not install dependencies. Patching in -d into @dpkgbuildpackage
works a
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Axel Beckert wrote:
> *sigh* I've never understood why Joey changed the name. "mr" was
> perfect. "myrepos" sounds as horrible as "myspace". O.o
Me neither. I agree.
I am sure it's SEO reasons, and that makes sense to some degree, but
it will always be mr to me.
Source: pkg-perl-tools
Version: 0.20
Severity: normal
Dear all,
I am preparing to get rid of package mr in the stretch cycle.
As 0.19 in jessie already has an alternate dependency this should be
safe to do now.
Thanks,
Richard
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On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> I haven't tested the output against a json validator yet... so feedback
> welcome and I do expect some more work to do...
I am seeing the same issues as Rapahel.
A poor man's checker if you are parseable in theory would be:
wget https://se
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Release is a general concept that includes multiple respositories.
> And in repositories you have finer-graind data by real repositories.
That's what I was aiming for, yes.
Sorry, I had a draft in my phone, but didn't send that to not c
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> surely. I just wasn't sure whether this should be done on the security-tracker
> side or by it's users... or I could provide two versions: json-full and json(-
> aggregated) - do you think that would be useful?
To clarify, I replied to this
I was about to suggest having both.
Please do that.
Richard
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On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
> Are we settled on debconf-in...@lists.debian.org ?
Maybe wait over the weekend; if there's no opposition then that's the name.
Richard
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On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
>> > I suggest debconf-sum...@lists.debian.org.
>
> Not a slightly broader debconf-infra@l.d.o ?
I pondered that as well. But what if bursaries, front desk, etc want
to talk about summit specifically? OTOH, what if we use something else
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> I think the best would be to create a new list for this on
> lists.debian.org. We want to move all the debconf lists to the Debian
> list infrastructure anyway.
Yes.
> I suggest debconf-sum...@lists.debian.org.
Fine by me.
I would pre
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> 1) name of the psuedopackage
>
> Presumably, that's "summit.debconf.org" in this case.
Correct.
> 2) a short description of what the pseudopackage will be used for
> (suitable for inclusion in https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages)
Package: bugs.debian.org
Control: retitle -1 add summit.debconf.org pseudo-package
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Package: release.debian.org
Severity: normal
User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
Usertags: unblock
Please unblock package metamonger
This Closes: #769271 by using an epoch 32 bit systems can stomach in all
tests.
% debdiff metamonger_0.20141008-1_all.deb
metamonger_0.20141118-1_all.deb
The root cause is that i386 can't do epoch later than 2038-01-19.
touch: invalid date format '2042-01-01 00:00:00 +00:00'
# Failed test at t/200-no-dereference.t line 32.
# Failed test at t/200-no-dereference.t line 41.
# Failed test at t/200-no-dereference.t line 46.
# Failed test at t/2
Lucas, can you reproduce?
If yes, can I get a full log and/or interactive access?
Are you doing anything special with permissions, eatmydata, or the like?
Thanks to both of you,
Richard
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So we need to test older versions as well. Thanks again!
Richard
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Thanks!
Out of interest: are you using -static actively? If yes, for what?
Richard
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Package: rdesktop
Version: 1.8.2-2
Severity: normal
Dear all,
when I paste a large text snippet from Linux to our terminal server, I
get:
*** Error in `rdesktop': double free or corruption (fasttop):
0x01dfa050 ***
and rdesktop exits, funnily enough with RC 0.
% wc largefile
9405 50
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Perhaps a better thing would be to always log systemd events/changes
> to tty9? There is no scrollback buffer while its logging in the
> background (i. e. you are looking at a different tty), but usually the
> last 20-something lines should giv
Or, even better, maybe it could activate debugging if it realizes it's
stuck for X time and tell the user to please look at ttyX.
For completeness' sake, #766050 goes in a similar direction.
Thanks,
Richard
PS: Ideally, all help options should be available without the need for
a working interne
Package: systemd
Version: 215-5+b1
Severity: wishlist
Dear all,
similar to zack's #766039, I would like to ask if it's possible to
always enable a read-only version of debug-shell.service.
The reasoning should be obvious: Always provide potentially useful
feedback to all local users, while preve
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:50 PM, martin f krafft wrote:
> % vcsh which no-such-file; echo $?
> 0
>
> I believe this should return 1.
I am not sure I agree (see `git status dontexist` for example), but
it's easily done, so fixed in d946b07817ffe6e156c159e7fc6270322413e530
and I will try to get a
I meant that migrating lists do not seen to need purpose, seconds, etc.
Instead they need the OK from the current "head[s]" of the list.
According to my interpretation, that is.
Richard
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The rules seem to be different for existing lists, but +1 nonetheless.
Richard
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Package: kpcli
Version: 2.7-1
Severity: important
kpcli depends on two Perl modules, yet does not Depend on them. One of
them is not even packaged.
kpcli:/> xu 0
Error: xu requires the Clipboard and Capture::Tiny modules:
- http://search.cpan.org/~king/Clipboard/
- http://search.cpan.org/~dagol
Package: youtube-dl
Version: 2014.06.19-1
Severity: normal
While having a bad WiFi connection which didn't let any traffic through
but fooled network manager into keeping the connection up, I tried using
youtube-dl.
It locked up completely, even ignoring ^C on command line. Only after
all DNS que
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Package: terminator
Version: 0.97-2
Severity: normal
Tags: upstream patch
terminator has a bug where splits are not central if you have tabs open.
This has been fixed upstream and committed to what will become 1.0, but
no release seems imminent. Would you be willing/able to package a
current deve
Package: terminator
Version: 0.97-2
Severity: minor
terminator moved from
http://www.tenshu.net/terminator/
to
http://gnometerminator.blogspot.com/p/introduction.html
Not a big deal and probably too trivial to even include a patch...
Thanks for maintaining,
RIchard
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Version: 1.7.1-1
Severity: normal
Dear Laszlo,
I need to work with Windows Server 2012 R2 these days and there are
several issues which have been fixed in rdesktop 1.8.1.
Can you give a prospective ETA of when 1.8.1 is expected to be packaged?
Thanks a lot for your work,
Rich
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Please note that I personally am currently leaning towards voting Keith's
> proposal above the one that I'm proposing in this message for the reasons
> that he states in that message.
Given the overall heat in the prior debate, I can see val
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> I vote D > U > O > V > F.
I would appreciate it if you could reply to self with signed mail
re-stating this.
Thanks,
Richard
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Date: Jan 20, 2014 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: segfault with exceedingly long path
To:
Cc:
On Jan 19, 4:02pm, Bart Schaefer wrote:
}
} I don't think we want
Hi,
Personally, I depend on it as part of any base system.
To me, a dependency seems cleaner. Plus, it's easier to get rid of if need
be.
Richard
Package: perl
Version: 5.18.1-5
Severity: normal
Hi all,
the rename(1) which ships with perl is located in
debian/rename
in the source package and stuck at a version from 1998:
# $RCSfile: rename,v $$Revision: 1.5 $$Date: 1998/12/18 16:16:31 $
CPAN[1] carries a version 1.8 from 2010, but
Seems we worked in parallel here; I already confirmed and forwarded to
zsh-workers.
5.0.2-6 was not affected.
Richard
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Package: whois
Version: 5.0.26
Severity: normal
Hi,
as per IRC:
richih@titanium ~ % whois as64513
Unknown AS number or IP network. Please upgrade this program.
richih@titanium ~ % whois as420001
Unknown AS number or IP network. Please upgrade this program.
richih@titanium ~ %
12:51:36 <
Ian,
your changes make sense; thanks for improving on my hamfisted first attempt.
As requested:
* I do own the copyright to everything I submitted
* I am fine with GPLv2+ (as it's using Git and Git is GPLv2) so GPLv3+
is fine as well
* I did this in my own free time
Do you need anything else? G
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Ian Jackson
wrote:
> I will think of a way of providing this that won't annoy me too much.
> Richard, can you wait ?
Sure, no worries.
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On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Because many people do not install files from /usr/share/doc to save space
> (with dpkg --path-exclude or tools doing something similar), because some
> derivatives (Emdebian) do this by default, etc.
Or maybe they run from a checkout. If
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Rémi Vanicat wrote:
> Okay, when I just load completion, I've no more error message, but no
> completion either. The .zshrc I used is:
You will need to load site completions. Or load _vcsh by itself.
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That's really strange...
Can you try to reproduce this with a minimal zsh configuration,
ideally only with completion loaded?
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Can you run
vcsh enter zsh
git status
Please?
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On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Remi Vanicat wrote:
> I was trying vcsh, and when I use
>
> vcsh $repo add [TAB]
>
> it failed with "not a git repository"
Is that related to the issue solved via IRC or is this still open?
I tried, and failed to, reproduce this several times, now...
If it's
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Ian Jackson
wrote:
> Thanks, but I'm not sure how valuable this is. If people think it
> would be helpful I don't mind it existing, but:
Well, it's one of the most common functions of any program. Myself, I
realized it was missing after I ran a dist-upgrade and s
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ian Jackson
wrote:
> There is an existing function helponly() for this. Perhaps the answer
> is simply to rename it cmd_help.
Please see branch
feature--dgit_help-2
on
git.debian.org/git/dgit-repos/repos/dgit.git
Richard
PS: I thought I had pointed orig
tion
>From 069054822d3a9150388b3e48e15eb8d30614849f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Richard Hartmann
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 22:45:21 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] dgit*: Implement `dgit help`
---
dgit | 4
dgit.1 | 3 +++
2 files changed, 7 insertions(+)
diff --git a/dgit b/dgit
index 98fd04d..73f2087 100755
--- a/dgit
+++ b/d
tion
>From 0ee5f5cf83367509622b38d0c5f57cb5b1445564 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Richard Hartmann
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 21:04:41 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] dgit*: Implement `dgit version`
---
dgit | 6 ++
dgit.1 | 3 +++
2 files changed, 9 insertions(+)
diff --git a/dgit b/dgit
index 98fd04d..e11c6f2 100755
--- a/dg
Package: dgit
Version: 0.13
Severity: important
I ran
dgit clone vcsh
cd vcsh
git remote add github g...@github.com:RichiH/vcsh.git
git push github dgit/sid
cd ~/work/git/vcsh # my main vcsh repo
git fetch
gcd debian # alias for git checkout, debian is where I do
27 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Richard Hartmann
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:30:24 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] debian/control: Add Vcs-Git and Vcs-Browser
---
debian/control | 2 ++
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
diff --git a/debian/control b/debian/control
index 8f15413..a90b6ff 100644
--- a/debian/
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Richard Hartmann
wrote:
> You can do whatever you want in the
>
> post-enter
>
> hook. If you want, you can submit it and maybe it'll be included as an
> example.
Actually, you can't set aliases or otherwise change ENV. Maybe
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Thomas Koch wrote:
> On the vcsh site I think it might be a sensible option to prevent certain
> commands to be run during a vcsh session, at least sudo and su.
Sorry, but no. What about login? Should I follow through new instances
of bash or zsh? And a ton of o
Some more feedback:
* `su -` will start with a new ENV
* $VCSH_COMMAND, $VCSH_DIRECTORY, and $VCSH_REPO_NAME will always be
set if you are within the context of vcsh
* The thing that you really should guard against is $GIT_WORK_TREE
being set. $GIT_DIR is almost as bad, but $GIT_WORK_TREE is the m
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Thomas Koch wrote:
> There's a vcsh process somewhere above the aptitude process.
Congratulations! ;)
> Should etckeeper have some checks build in that save stupid users like me?
The problem is that you can shoot yourself in the foot in a myraid of
ways and if
Package: mtr
Severity: wishlist
There have been several upstream releases since v0.82, v0.85 is current.
If you need help with maintaining mtr, please let me know; I care about
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not even DHCP requests.
Thinkpad X1 Carbon; I can't look up the PCI ids atm, but can do so
later if that's of any use.
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Great, thanks.
If you want me to test the new packages before uploading them, just
let me know. As WiFi is broken with a current kernel atm, it's trivial
to test.
Thanks,
Richard
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Package: firmware-iwlwifi
Version: 0.38
Severity: normal
Dear maintainers,
linux-image-3.9-1-amd64 (on a different machine) tells me I need to
install a package providing iwlwifi-3160-6.ucode and
iwlwifi-7260-6.ucode .
This package is the obvious candidate for carrying these files.
Thanks for
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote:
> Quick comment: A mention in the short description of the fact that this is
> filesystem metadata would make it a lot clearer.
Good idea. I will update the package information; what about the info
in this bug? Should I bother?
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Richard Hartmann
* Package name: metamonger
Version : 0.20130627
Upstream Author : Richard Hartmann
* URL : https://github.com/RichiH/metamonger
* License : GPL-2+
Programming Lang: Perl
Description : metamonger
Package: tt-rss
Version: 1.8+dfsg-2
Severity: wishlist
Finding tt-rss is needlessly complicated.
If you change
web-based news feed (RSS/Atom) aggregator
to
tiny tiny RSS - web-based news feed (RSS/Atom) aggregator
it will make searching easier.
Thanks for your work,
Richard
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On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Evan Broder wrote:
> There's a commit on reptyr HEAD that I think is worth grabbing (it
> makes it handle the situation of child processes much better), and
> Nelson just cut a new release, so I'm going to pull that in. Hopefully
> I'll have a new binary staged by
Package: reptyr
Version: 0.3-2
Severity: wishlist
Hi Evan,
there's been a new release of reptyr some time ago, please see
https://github.com/nelhage/reptyr/tags
If you need/want help with packaging or maintaining, please let me know.
I will most likely deprecate retty and replace it with a
Package: ftp.debian.org
User: ftp.debian@packages.debian.org
Usertag: rm
X-Debbugs-Cc: brem...@debian.org
Please remove vcsh 1.2-3~bpo60+2 from squeeze-backports.
My sponsor, CC'ed, uploaded to squeeze-backports instead of
squeeze-backports-sloppy by mistake.
Once this is done, we will re-up
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Richard Hartmann
wrote:
> Should I simply attach the whole file, grep something out, or send it
> to you off-list?
Sent off-list, if anyone else needs it poke me.
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On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> I don't think that debconf is relevant there. The problem is that the
> new python needs a new libc6 package, and thus if it is unpacked before
> libc6, it doesn't work anymore. This means that every python script on
> the system will fail
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:15 PM, David Kalnischkies
wrote:
> I haven't had the time yet to debug why APT is choosing this route
> (and as said, dpkg/status file would help), but while this might not be
> ideal its not a bug in APT.
Should I simply attach the whole file, grep something out, or se
Package: upgrade-reports
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable
Broken Python upgrade left me without working debconf.
Full log at http://paste.debian.net/5060/
Fixed by manually installing libc6 packages and locales*.deb
Fetched 520 MB in 21min 17s (407 kB/s)
Reading chang
Just for the record, this is so unspecific that it will most likely be
closed during the next triage unless you are able to provide more info
(which is admittedly very unlikely).
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tags 578466 wontfix
While this is obviously a Bad Thing to happen, it's rather specific
and there's a myriad of commands that may hurt you in various ways. We
would never be able to finish this task, implement it in a way that
pleases anyone, or, in a worst-case scenario, train people not to pay
a
fixed-upstream
Fixed in commit bb6e894f2700bb92c44438dd62a7f921d106dca1
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As per IRC, I submitted a bug with an attached patch for release-notes.
It documents the possible workaround of adding both squeeze and wheezy
sources to sources.list.
Please see #706684 [1] for details.
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Tags: patch
This is to help around bug #645713.
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Hi Luca,
when are you planning to upload your new package? Release is targeted
for tomorrow and gcc-msp430 still needs to be unblocked.
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Hi Andreas,
as you referenced #645713 directly you probably tried this already,
but does adding the wheezy sources to sources.list instead of
replacing the squeeze ones help?
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Hi Ian,
thanks for the report and the patch.
I have already been playing with it for a bit, but I am still unsure
if that's the best approach. OTOH, I failed to come up with anything
better... so... ;)
For now, I put it into its own branch [1]. If you want to appear as
committer instead, please
Package: rancid
Version: 2.3.8-3
Severity: normal
All other variables are exported immediately and rancid.conf is
POSIX shell syntax.
Thus, LIST_OF_GROUPS should be exported as well.
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Debian Release: 7.0
APT prefers unstable
APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimen
/01/msg2.html,
http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2012/02/msg00040.html,
http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2012/02/msg00039.html
A jetring changeset is attached to this bug report.
Thanks,
Richard Hartmann
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Date: Sun, 06 Jan
Package: update-notifier-common
Version: 0.99.3debian10
Severity: serious
Justification: Policy 3.5
Recommends: libpam-modules (>= 1.0.1-9ubuntu3)
Even though there's no actual impact as 1.1.3-7.1 >> 1.0.1-9ubuntu3,
update-notifier-common still should not recommend an Ubuntu version of
libpam-mod
Package: update-notifier-common
Version: 0.99.3debian10
Severity: serious
Justification: Policy 3.5
If lsb-release is not installed, /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt_check.py
will crap out:
# /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt_check.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt
Hi Luca,
thanks a lot!
Richard
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