On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:23:12PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:46:12PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
> >With this the maintainers get some mails from the translator
> >project. More like now. Now we only at the start, now we don't make
> >a real revi
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:08:52AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:46:12PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
> > >The maintainer need not do anything. Maybe he don't know the
> > >translation. The user only use this.
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:46:12PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
>With this the maintainers get some mails from the translator
>project. More like now. Now we only at the start, now we don't make
>a real review process. Now we have only 10 languages.
I thought there was mention of tran
Sorry for the vague Subject:
I maintain a package for OpenVerse http://www.openverse.org
as well I am one of the upstream contributors.
Anyhow, we have a slew of plugins available for OpenVerse. Some are as simple
as executing system commands from the chat window and some are as large as the
progra
> On 05-Sep-01, 18:14 (CDT), "Neil T. Spring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2. A configuration option, when you know concensus on this
> > list is that there will be none; and that the default will
> > be on.
> No, I don't think that's the concensus. I agree that the kernel package
> can't change
> "Radovan" == Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Radovan> it is LANGUAGE, and you have to set LANG to something
Radovan> (which will be ignored in this case, but has to be set).
Not only does it have to be set, but it looks like it can't be set to "C":
[776] [scrooge:bam] /
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:32:42PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> if ! grep /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn /etc/sysctl.conf >/dev/null;
> then echo sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn=0 >> /etc/sysctl.conf
> fi
>
> to the kernel-image-2.4.x postinst.
no, this is broken and evil. kernel-im
Mike Shuey has donated a Mac Quadra 950 that's been pumping out
packages for a few months as bruno.fmepnet.org for the m68 port.
He has (most of) a similar machine that he can hook up next to it
that still needs a few gig narrow SCSI disk and matched sets of
30-pin ram. If someone can loan some pa
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
> > > But tell me, in case there's an IMAP client that has some problems with
> > > the IMAP protocol. Should a Debian box by default *refuse* to talk
> > > to it or should the default be to try to talk to it (provided that it
> > > can)?
> >
> > A
On 05-Sep-01, 18:14 (CDT), "Neil T. Spring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2. A configuration option, when you know concensus on this
> list is that there will be none; and that the default will
> be on.
No, I don't think that's the concensus. I agree that the kernel package
can't change another p
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: mangoquest
* URL : http://mangoquest.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL
Description : Pacman meets Doom
Basically a pacman clone, but in the first person, and with a few
extra bits and pieces thrown in. Uses the SDL with
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
> > Yes, quite frankly. Personally, I use only Free Software and software
> > that runs on top of Free OSes. Professionally, I work for an ISP, and
> > we expect our vendors to live up to the promises they make.
> If that's the case then shouldn
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 03:19:01PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 06:02:10PM +0200, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
> > So since netbase does not want to be the proper place, a better
> > fix/workaround (I'm sincerely trying hard not to be ironic!) would be to
> > use debconf wi
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 06:02:10PM +0200, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
> So since netbase does not want to be the proper place, a better
> fix/workaround (I'm sincerely trying hard not to be ironic!) would be to
> use debconf with a default value of "0" and to inform/ask the user about
> it when i
On 05-Sep-01, 16:35 (CDT), Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Sep 2001, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
> >
> > But tell me *one* thing:
> >
> > Why is it so hard to change a few lines and have the default be
> > set to *off* and let whoever feels like it
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:46:12PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
> >The maintainer need not do anything. Maybe he don't know the
> >translation. The user only use this. This need only the
> >translators.
>
> While we're on the subject, can
Wow. Somebody makes a one line suggestion (which seems
like a good idea) and you twist it into:
1. An incorrect statement. "ecn is a routing
protocol." rotfl. Find a computer science textbook before
you post to the list again.
2. A configuration option, when you know concensus on this
list is th
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:32:42PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
>
> ) then it's the kernel-image package that needs to make sure it's runing
> in a sane environment. So *please* can we add something like:
>
> if ! grep /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn /etc/sysctl.conf >/dev/null;
>
T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
> > But anyway - I agree that Debian should not be too conservative
> > with regard to new networking technologies, so disabling ECN by
> > default is not something I'd like to see happen. Give the user some
> > short explanation and let him make the decision himself,
I'm getting these upgrade errors while doing a sid upgrade.
It seams to happen with many packages.
errors
Setting up eterm (0.9.1-0pre2001072201) ...
ldconfig: Can't link /usr/lib//usr/lib/libelmme-iconv.so to
libelmme-iconv.so
ldconfig: Can't link /usr/lib//usr/lib/libelmme-base.so to
lib
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:46:12PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
>The maintainer need not do anything. Maybe he don't know the
>translation. The user only use this. This need only the
>translators.
While we're on the subject, can you get someone to translate your mails
into a comprehens
On Wed, 05 Sep 2001, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
> at least not consciously because I doubt anybody who's pro ECN in the
> kernel has had to debug a situtation such as described above.
Don't. You will lose.
> But you can sure tell from my enthusiasm, and I'm no networking idiot,
> that I *do* f
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Nick Phillips wrote:
> > Well, shouldn't it? Wouldn't it make sense to have the translated
> > description
> > in there rather than the original one?
>
> I actually makes more sense to remove even the english description
> from status to an
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Remco van de Meent wrote:
> But anyway - I agree that Debian should not be too conservative with
> regard to new networking technologies, so disabling ECN by default is
> not something I'd like to see happen. Give the user some short
> explanation and let him make the decision
> would even dare try it. I have decided to offer windows and siding
> to you, at our basic cost. In other words, I'm going to offer you
> windows and siding for no personal profit whatsoever! This will
I am quite sorry, but I have no desire to install Windows. That is why I
use Linux. However,
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Do *you* do that for all the things that don't work as they should?
>
> Yes, quite frankly. Personally, I use only Free Software and software
> that runs on top of Free OSes. Professionally, I work for an ISP, and
> we expect our vendors to live up t
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:12:46PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 11:35:05AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
> > Also, if a computer is running slowly, but top says the CPU has plenty
> > of idle time and free RAM, is there anyway I can find out what is
> > wrong?
>
> most likely sl
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:46:12PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
>Sorry, but if some maintainers complain about this mails (without
>real work on there site) now, they don't make a good work in the
>future.
To be honest, I find it more annoying getting form mails like the
notification
Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> Routers aren't forced to support ECN (although it's in their
> interest) but they aren't allowed to drop ECN-flagged TCP packets.
>
> If you can't access a site, *they* need to fix their buggy router to be
> ECN-tolerant. If they don't do so, they're violating RFC 793.
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> Routers aren't forced to support ECN (although it's in their interest) but
> they
> aren't allowed to drop ECN-flagged TCP packets.
>
> If you can't access a site, *they* need to fix their buggy router to be
> ECN-tolerant. If they don't do so, the
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 11:15:03AM +0200, A Mennucc1 wrote:
>
> hi
>
>
> --- still on the name
>
>
> let's start by a few quotations:
>
> "an arch is an arch is an arch is an arch"
>
> "an arch by any other name would work the same"
>
> "shut up and show them the arch"
>
> it: "l' arch e
I'll make you a promise.
READ THIS E-MAIL TO THE END!
- follow what it says to the letter -
and you will not worry whether a RECESSION is coming or not,
who is President, or whether you keep your current job
or not.
Yes, I know what you are thinking. I never responded
to one of thes
Hereward Cooper:
I think I found what you are looking for. It will not let you view it
directly, but it will let you convert it to html. It is called nse2html.
Since it is only 2k, I have attached a gzipped version. It seems that it
is in perl so I think just running it will work.
My source was
h
I, for one, am very thankful for this thread. I could no longer
connect to some sites which I used in daily work collaborations
for some time now. Turns out it's since an upgrade from 2.2 to
2.4. I have now disabled this option in the 2.4 kernel and now
connect again.
Thanks!
(Yes, it's info
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 03:00:08PM -0400, Roderick Schertler wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:44:29 +0200, Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
> >
> > Does 'x'tail mean it's a GUI app ?
>
> Nope.
Do you want to go for another name then ? I find it quite confusing. mtail or
multitail m
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
>>> The question is only if devices should be programmed in order to know
>>> the future and it's potential proposed stadards by the IETF. Mind you I
>>> don't know if the devices in question (websites, routers etc. droping ECN
>>> packets) *are* v
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:37:28PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Why should the default configuration be changed to account for the
> > diminishing number of broken routers on the net?
>
> >From a technical behavior, throwing away packets with unk
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:13:00AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:49:09PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > Do package descriptions change so regularly that translated descriptions
> > couldn't be submitted through the bug tracking system and included
> > in the next upl
Martin Quinson wrote:
> Ouch ! As translator, I can promise you that if Joey Hess had removed all my
> translation just because he added 'gnome' to the list of choices, he would
> had to search out another french translator !
Maybe I'd better start looking, because:
> PS: this perticular problem
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Also, I like that we use the gettext mechanism because at least we
> have no translated description when it has been updated instead of
> an outdated description. Better have a correct english description
> than a wrong translated one. This problem is common with debconf
>
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:32:42PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Anthony Towns wrote:
>
> > severity 110892 wishlist
> > thanks
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:42:23PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> > > # On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 06:31:19 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > > # > On Sat
On Wed, 05 Sep 2001, Radovan Garabik wrote:
> I have however other problems with ttf fonts - they are
> EXTREMELY slow. When I use arialuni.ttf (25MB font with the best
> unicode coverage) as main font in konqueror, just drawing a page
> in ASCII takes 2 minutes (PIII 600 MHz). During those 2
> mi
#include
T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote on Wed Sep 05, 2001 um 02:57:16PM:
> Make sure you have ECN disabled on those bootdisks otherwise some people
> will be finding out that to their surprise they are not able to download
> their packages via the network. See the recent ECN thread.
ROTFL. Look f
Hey Guys,
I think Anthony mistyped the bug# here. This has nothing to do
with gdk-imlib1.
Cheers,
-Steve
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 11:44:01PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> severity 110892 wishlist
> thanks
>
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:42:23PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> > # On Sun, 2 Sep 2
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Guillaume Morin wrote:
>
> > > Dans un message du 05 sep à 14:37, Florian Weimer écrivait :
> > > > From a technical behavior, throwing away packets with unknown protocol
> > > >
Previously Nick Phillips wrote:
> Well, shouldn't it? Wouldn't it make sense to have the translated description
> in there rather than the original one?
I actually makes more sense to remove even the english description
from status to another location.
Wichert.
--
Hi,
Does anyone know how to read a "folio" file under linux/debian?
The file extension is a nfo.
I needed it as the new AS Physics Course now comes with the
text book on a CD. It uses, yes you guessed it, a windows based
program, called "Folio Views", and well I don't want to spend
any more time u
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Guillaume Morin wrote:
> > Dans un message du 05 sep à 14:37, Florian Weimer écrivait :
> > > From a technical behavior, throwing away packets with unknown protocol
> > > flags is perfectly acceptable in any case and even rea
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:47:26PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> are set to the fixed-misc USC version and it seems to work fine. The only
> problem I have found is with the Unicode TTF fonts - mkttfdir doesn't
> generate correct fonts.dir file for those AFAICT - all entries have their
> charset
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Guillaume Morin wrote:
> Dans un message du 05 sep à 17:30, T.Pospisek's MailLists écrivait :
> > The question is only if devices should be programmed in order to know
> > the future and it's potential proposed stadards by the IETF. Mind you I
> > don't know if the devices in q
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:23:52PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> with reiserfs etc. shall we downgrade debian package e2fsprogs'
> essential state to at least to allow it to be removable? thanks!
> (one thing to notice is maybe the generic fsck wrapper?)
Perhaps it would make sense to put /sbi
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:07:40AM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> > The description is part of the package, can we agree on that one?
> > What is the difference between a translated description and the
> > original one, except for which language it is written in?
The original, canonical,
Dans un message du 05 sep à 17:30, T.Pospisek's MailLists écrivait :
> The question is only if devices should be programmed in order to know
> the future and it's potential proposed stadards by the IETF. Mind you I
> don't know if the devices in question (websites, routers etc. droping ECN
> packet
> ECN is RFC2481
>
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2481.txt?number=2481
the internet draft by the same authors that supercedes
rfc2481 and is a "Proposed Standard" instead of an
"Experimental Standard" is draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-04.
It is listed under "working group standards track" at
http://www.rfc-e
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Scott Dier wrote:
> working fine. The really broken part is firewalls and tcp/ip stacks on
> the internet that do things to TCP that they shouldn't and break your
> experience.
>
> Go bugreport those instead.
Never mind the users: they will be happy to spend two days debuging
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> So *please* can we add something like:
>
> if ! grep /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn /etc/sysctl.conf >/dev/null;
> then echo sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn=0 >> /etc/sysctl.conf
> fi
>
> to the kernel-image-2.4.x postinst.
Which of course wi
> critical makes unrelated software on the system (or the whole system)
>break, [...]
The user experience is broken, not the software. The software is
working fine. The really broken part is firewalls and tcp/ip stacks on
the internet that do things to TCP that they shouldn't and b
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:32:42PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> >From the docu:
>
> critical makes unrelated software on the system (or the whole system)
>break, [...]
>
> This is *exacly* what happens after an update from a vanilla 2.2.x kernel
> to a 2.4. Some sites plain disape
* Tomas Pospisek
| ) then it's the kernel-image package that needs to make sure it's runing
| in a sane environment. So *please* can we add something like:
|
| if ! grep /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn /etc/sysctl.conf >/dev/null;
| then echo sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn=0 >> /etc/sysctl.
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 12:56:18AM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> >
> > It's not only *sites* that do not work with ECN. It's also *routers*. That
> > means if you have *one* router between you and your destination, that does
> > not
> > support EC
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Guillaume Morin wrote:
> Dans un message du 05 sep à 14:37, Florian Weimer écrivait :
> > From a technical behavior, throwing away packets with unknown protocol
> > flags is perfectly acceptable in any case and even reasonable in some
> > environments.
>
> I would not call reas
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 03:22:47PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Nick Phillips
>
> | The translation of any part of a package, be it the text of error messages,
> | the text in control, or the text in debconf templates, does not need to
> | be part of the package, and hence certainly shouldn'
hi,
with reiserfs etc. shall we downgrade debian package e2fsprogs'
essential state to at least to allow it to be removable? thanks!
(one thing to notice is maybe the generic fsck wrapper?)
zw
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Anthony Towns wrote:
> severity 110892 wishlist
> thanks
>
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:42:23PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> > # On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 06:31:19 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > # > On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:33:35PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> > # > > I don't know
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 12:56:18AM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
>
> Zitiere Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Neil Spring wrote on Sat Sep 01, 2001 um 12:34:40PM:
> >
> > > being turned off behind my back. ECN doesn't need any
> > > more inertia slowing its deployment. It's already an
>
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 04:39:30PM -0700, Neil Spring wrote:
> > Incidentaly I'd today filled a *critical* bugreport against
> > kernel-image-2.4.8 just because of that.
>
> It lists as "Done"; perhaps you're expected to file it
> someplace else?
>
> > The first *experimental* rfc for ECN dates f
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:49:09PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> Do package descriptions change so regularly that translated descriptions
> couldn't be submitted through the bug tracking system and included
> in the next upload?
That doesn't serve the purpose of hijacking pieces of the maintainer
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:55:08AM +0200, A Mennucc1 wrote:
> ok, I think I will switch again to w32
>
> I say again because that was my choice for 3 days, and then I thought
> that I didnt like w32 <-> w64 ; but again , who cares?
>
> anyway, Real Life (tm) is hitting me hard; summer is over; if
On 05-Sep-01, 07:09 (EDT), Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you look at it logically, *everything* that has to do with translations
> is quite distinct from the other tasks relating to package maintenance.
>
> The translation of any part of a package, be it the text of error messages
Dans un message du 05 sep à 14:37, Florian Weimer écrivait :
> From a technical behavior, throwing away packets with unknown protocol
> flags is perfectly acceptable in any case and even reasonable in some
> environments.
I would not call reasonable dropping packets carrying bits of a protocol
rat
severity 110892 wishlist
thanks
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:42:23PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> # On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 06:31:19 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> # > On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:33:35PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> # > > I don't know if this is the right place to assign the bug.
It's n
* Nick Phillips
| The translation of any part of a package, be it the text of error messages,
| the text in control, or the text in debconf templates, does not need to
| be part of the package, and hence certainly shouldn't have to be. The
| translations can easily be completely abstracted from t
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:49:09PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> Do package descriptions change so regularly that translated descriptions
> couldn't be submitted through the bug tracking system and included
> in the next upload?
Apparently maintainers regularly fail to do anything with them at a
** On Sep 05, Brian May scribbled:
> > "Marek" == Marek Habersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Marek> Or just put LANG=en_GB in /etc/environment
>
> Hmmm. Might be worth trying. However, either this is going to override
> the language chosen by gdm, or gdm is going to override this. No
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 08:34:45PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> Give a person a fish, and he will won't starve today. Teach him how
> to fish, and he will never have to starve anymore.
btw the use of person followed by he is kind of weird in the above.
and it opens us up to lots of fun inter
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-05
Severity: wishlist
xtail watches the growth of files. It's like running a "tail -f" on
a bunch of files at once. It notices if a file is trunated and starts
from the beginning. You can specify both filenames and directories on
the command line. I
Make sure you have ECN disabled on those bootdisks otherwise some people
will be finding out that to their surprise they are not able to download
their packages via the network. See the recent ECN thread.
*t
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:49:09PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:11:56PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote:
> > I'd have thought that the current situation re. maintainers putting
> > translations into .debs makes it blindingly obvious that requiring them
> > to do so in order
reopen 110862
# Here with I am reopening this bug.
#
# On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 06:31:19 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
#
# > On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:33:35PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
# > >
# > > I don't know if this is the right place to assign the bug. Maybe the
# > > right place for this is netbase,
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why should the default configuration be changed to account for the
> diminishing number of broken routers on the net?
>From a technical behavior, throwing away packets with unknown protocol
flags is perfectly acceptable in any case and even reasonable
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 01:13:35PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:00:42PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
>
> > If we talk about translation, this is not a big problem. You must only
> > use gettext all the time. Maybe we can throw away the 'maintainer
> > name' problem wi
Le Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:20:42PM +0100, Nick Phillips écrivait:
> > > It needs to be stored, in /var/lib/dpkg/status, as a single file. This
> > > is so
[...]
> > no, it does not store there. And I can explain it:
>
> Well, shouldn't it? Wouldn't it make sense to have the translated descriptio
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:20:42PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:00:42PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
>
> > > It needs to be stored, in /var/lib/dpkg/status, as a single file. This
> > > is so
> > > that dpkg can make safe updates to it. Trying to sync multiple files
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:23:34PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:53:37PM +0200, Petr Cech wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:17:12PM +1000 , Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> > > Does that mean it should always take a certain format irrespective of the
> > > locale? If s
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:11:56PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote:
> I'd have thought that the current situation re. maintainers putting
> translations into .debs makes it blindingly obvious that requiring them
> to do so in order for a translation to become available is a bad idea.
Do package descrip
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Petr Cech wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:17:12PM +1000 , Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> > Does that mean it should always take a certain format irrespective of the
> > locale? If so, which format?
>
> or number format. ie. in Czech decimal separator is `,' comma and in C
Le Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:30:12PM -0400, Joey Hess écrivait:
> I would like to see this oft-requested feature, but in the meantime
> there is nothing to prevent you as a backup maintainer from seeing every
> bug for every package you backup maintain. debian-bugs-dist + procmail.
> Trivial.
Of cou
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:00:42PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
> If we talk about translation, this is not a big problem. You must only
> use gettext all the time. Maybe we can throw away the 'maintainer
> name' problem with this. (You know it: maintainer fields with
> ÖÄÜöüüßåñïééõú... in the na
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:53:37PM +0200, Petr Cech wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:17:12PM +1000 , Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> > Does that mean it should always take a certain format irrespective of the
> > locale? If so, which format?
>
> or number format. ie. in Czech decimal separator
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:00:42PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
> > It needs to be stored, in /var/lib/dpkg/status, as a single file. This is
> > so
> > that dpkg can make safe updates to it. Trying to sync multiple files is
> > not a
> > simple solution.
>
> no, it does not store there. And
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:41:53AM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
> On 01-09-04 Nick Phillips wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:06:04PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
> > I don't expect most maintainers to be able or inclined to keep track of
> > a shedload of different translations, and those who
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:00:18PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> > No, make it opt-in and don't sent them by defaulot.
>
> Just checking, but having it optional is mutually exclusive with any final
> solution that involves the maintainer having to put the translation into the
> .deb.
I
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 05:03:50PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
> > "Vociferous" == Vociferous Mole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> doesn't look like it to me:
> >>
> >> [503] [pluto:bam] ~ >LANG=en_AU:en_GB dia
> >>
> >> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
>
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:17:12PM +1000 , Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> Does that mean it should always take a certain format irrespective of the
> locale? If so, which format?
or number format. ie. in Czech decimal separator is `,' comma and in C it's
`.' dot. OK, now restart gnumeric in other
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 05:03:50PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
> > "Vociferous" == Vociferous Mole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> doesn't look like it to me:
> >>
> >> [503] [pluto:bam] ~ >LANG=en_AU:en_GB dia
> >>
> >> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
>
#include
Tille, Andreas wrote on Wed Sep 05, 2001 um 10:33:43AM:
> In my opinion the problem is an obvious target for a debconf solution.
>
> The user has just to press one times:
>
> Do you want locales [y/N]
I did also suggested an --install-locales option for debootstrap (and
hope Ant
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:40:25PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Michael Bramer wrote:
>
> > > A proper solution, at the very least, invovles storing the data in the
> > > foo.deb{control.tar.gz/control} file.
> >
> > gettext is not a hack. Gettext for translations and dpkg use ge
On 01-09-04 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Michael Bramer wrote:
> > Maybe I have on next WE more time and I can improve the server and
> > make this notification mail configable per package and someone can
> > remove his packages from the notification process.
> You didn't already
On 01-09-04 Nick Phillips wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:06:04PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
> I don't expect most maintainers to be able or inclined to keep track of
> a shedload of different translations, and those who are that keen should
May I ask if you are aware about the ongoing trans
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 07:03:42AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Michael Bramer wrote:
> > Maybe I have on next WE more time and I can improve the server and
> > make this notification mail configable per package and someone can
> > remove his packages from the notification process.
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