[Lionel Elie Mamane]
> Wouldn't the C library, of all libs, fall under the "normally
> distributed with the major components of the operating system on
> which the executable runs" clause of the GPL?
Read that sentence closely. If _you_ are distributing _both_ libc and
gplfoo, then the "normally
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 01:35:54AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It seems the only oposition to this thus far is the choice of venue
>> clause,
> There's a far more serious problem, which has nothing to do with the
> DFSG - the FSF's interpretation of t
* Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-07 07:31:48]:
> Ok, but this is not what has been floating around, either here, or on the open
> solaris mailing lists. I mostly see wild claims and plain FUD and such.
Even Jörg Schilling is there. (c:
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[Arthur de Jong]
> * I'm not sure if I need some statement on the copyrights on the
> generated html files. The css file that is just copied has a BSD
> license.
Generally, output from a program is not considered to be copyrighted.
The templates from which it is built could be copyrighted, an
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 01:55:36AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, sure, but in the case of an OpenSolaris kernel with a glibc based
> > userland, as we are considering, the point is moot, as the kernel/userland
> > interface is enough to stop any
[Terry Burton]
> > Since this resource is written in PostScript and interpretted
> > within the virtual machine of a printer it is compatible with
> > virtually any operating system and hardware platform.
[Stefano Zacchiroli]
> Is this latter part of your long description relevant to and/or use
John Hasler wrote:
[snip]
> > Are you saying that if I write a highly original stream of conciousness
> > novel that is judged by the critics to be of abysmal literary quality
> > that I will be denied a copyright in Norway?
>
> Thiemo Seufer writes:
> > If the average audience consistently says "
Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > Computer programs are exempted from that requirement.
>
> The work needs to have some kind of creative art.
Without any quality judgement, correct. This doesn't leave anything
of interest out.
> Trivial programs are also not
Frans Pop wrote:
> It looks like this will take a while. Could the current wiki please have
> writing enabled again if that is the case?
To elucidate on that, some of us are/were using the old wiki for a)
planning real-life meetings b) day-to-day user support/breakage
documentation c) release pla
I wrote:
> Do you mean quality or originality?
Thiemo Seufer writes:
> The amount of creativity the author put in _successfully_.
Well, if he didn't successfully put it in then it isn't there, is it?
I wrote:
> Are you saying that if I write a highly original stream of conciousness
> novel that
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Computer programs are exempted from that requirement.
The work needs to have some kind of creative art. Trivial programs are also
not protected in a lot countries.
Gruss
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Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, sure, but in the case of an OpenSolaris kernel with a glibc based
> userland, as we are considering, the point is moot, as the kernel/userland
> interface is enough to stop any derivative-work-contagion, so we are back to
> the lone choice of venue th
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 01:35:54AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > It seems the only oposition to this thus far is the choice of venue clause,
> > which i am perosnally dubious of it falling the DFSG (as readers of
> > debian-legal my know, and others c
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It seems the only oposition to this thus far is the choice of venue clause,
> which i am perosnally dubious of it falling the DFSG (as readers of
> debian-legal my know, and others can search for QPL and ocaml there).
There's a far more serious problem, wh
Scripsit "Allyn, MarkX A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have been noticing (and a bit irritated) at the spam I am seeing
> on this and some other email lists. The latest was a bit offensive
> for me in my work environment.
I find these recurring threads slightly surreal. I think that
lists.d.o does a e
Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
> Hi, Andreas:
>
> El Martes, 06 Septiembre 2005 18:20, Andreas Schuldei escribió:
> > * Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-06 17:39:06]:
> > > Which I fail to understand, as the limited rights provided to me by
> > > law should be sufficient for the wiki cont
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 01:04:21AM +0200, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> * Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-05 20:59:10]:
> some discussion happend here, but later on in the thread it
> becomes clear that there is a lot of confusion of the official
> position of debian towards a debian with
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005, Joerg Sommer wrote:
> Does this mean you drop spam, currently?
No, we pack it in neat little mailboxes with the greatest of care, and
then proceed to blissfully forget that those messages were ever
received unless someone wonders why their message never made it
through.
Then,
John Hasler wrote:
> Petter Reinholdtsen writes:
> > We have the the same limitation in norwegian law, were the work need to
> > have (the norwegian expression) "verkshøyde", which implies a certain
> > quality level as Andreas puts it.
>
> Do you mean quality or originality?
The amount of creati
On Tuesday 06 September 2005 12:37 pm, Jochen Voss wrote:
> > This software may not be sold or incorporated into any product which is
> > sold without prior permission from SoftSound. When no charge is made,
> > this software may be copied and distributed freely.
> >
> > Permission is grante
* Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-05 20:59:10]:
some discussion happend here, but later on in the thread it
becomes clear that there is a lot of confusion of the official
position of debian towards a debian with an opensolars kernel.
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messa
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:37:46PM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 02:43:42PM -0500, Graham Wilson wrote:
> > This software is being provided to you, the LICENSEE, by Tony Robinson
> > and SoftSound under the following license. By obtaining, using and/or
> > copying this sof
Hello Blars,
Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been working on the spam filtering for the BTS. We are getting
>>> over 100,000 spams/day and about 50/day get through the filte
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 09:31:38PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 02:43:42PM -0500, Graham Wilson wrote:
> > * Package name: shorten
> > Version : 3.6.0
> > Upstream Author : Tony Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > * URL : http://www.example.org/
>
Henning Makholm writes:
> [værkshøjde] is more a question of the amount of expressive choice that
> went into producing the text to make it fit under the law's concept of
> "an artistic or literary work". Even bad literature *is* literature and
> so enjoys copyright protection.
That's pretty much
On Sep 06, Ondrej Medek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Building scripts should also conform to posh or specify /bin/bash. Some time
Wrong. /bin/sh scripts should surely conform to dash, but there is no
point is wasting time with posh.
> ago I've rebuild one package (gaim-extendedprefs or gaim-encry
Hi, Andreas:
El Martes, 06 Septiembre 2005 18:20, Andreas Schuldei escribió:
> * Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-06 17:39:06]:
> > Which I fail to understand, as the limited rights provided to me by
> > law should be sufficient for the wiki content in most cases.
>
> i spoke to a
Petter Reinholdtsen writes:
> We have the the same limitation in norwegian law, were the work need to
> have (the norwegian expression) "verkshøyde", which implies a certain
> quality level as Andreas puts it.
Do you mean quality or originality? Are you saying that if I write a
highly original st
[Henning Makholm]
> Unless the difference between Norwegian and Danish law is much
> greater than I imagine, "værkshøjde" is not purely a matter of
> quality.
You are right, of course. I just lacked the ability to express this
clearly in english. :)
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> [John Hasler]
>> I suspect that you misunderstood the lawyer.
> We have the the same limitation in norwegian law, were the work need
> to have (the norwegian expression) "verkshøyde", which implies a
> certain quality level as Andreas puts it. T
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> * Package name: shorten
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> * URL : http://www.exampl
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 02:43:42PM -0500, Graham Wilson wrote:
> SHORTEN SOFTWARE LICENSE
>
> This software is being provided to you, the LICENSEE, by Tony Robinson
> and SoftSound under the following license. By obtaining, using and/or
> copying this software, you agree that you have r
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[John Hasler]
> I suspect that you misunderstood the lawyer.
We have the the same limitation in norwegian law, were the work need
to have (the norwegian expression) "verkshøyde", which implies a
certain quality level as Andreas puts it. There are no limits on
copying and distribution of text belo
On 9/6/05, Grzegorz Bizon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyway, I just wonder what is wrong about grsecurity
For starters, the upstream developer claims [1, 2] to engage in the
morally reprehensible practice of selling 0-day exploits he finds in
competing products to blackhats. This also casts dou
[The Fungi]
> In short, there is no way for dpkg to know if a script or application
> within the package will spawn additional files, and it is the duty of
> the package maintainer to clean these up on removing/purging the
> package (generally in per/post-remove scripts). Hope that helps...
I sup
Do you people really need to inform all the debian-devel readers of
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Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:21:46 +0200
Laszlo Boszormenyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Installation of ,,fixed packages''[2] soloved this issue. But in my
> > opinion better solution is fixing it in Debian :P.
> Debian will support SELinux, I do not know if GRSecurity will have a
> chance. :-|
Joey Hess wrote:
> "| debconf-2.0"
>dput
Thanks for the reminder.
Fixed in 0.9.2.20.
Kind regards
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On Monday 05 September 2005 20:59, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> The Sun folks understand full well the power of a debian port of
> openSolaris and the lift they would get from it. (c:
Hmm. It would be nice if they were as supportive for the sparc port. Maybe
we could make a package deal :-P
pgpSFk
> There needs to be a certain quality level reached, aparently, which is
> not necessarily given in a wiki.
If only works of a certain quality level are protected by copyright why
aren't the products of the entertainment industry in the public domain?
I suspect that you misunderstood the lawyer.
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 04:36:07PM +0100, Terry Burton wrote:
> Since this resource is written in PostScript and interpretted
> within the virtual machine of a printer it is compatible with
> virtually any operating system and hardware platform.
Is this latter part of your long description relevan
The Fungi writes:
> Perhaps I'm missing something, but it seems to me that it would be more
> effective to try to get http://www.callwave.com/members/cancel/ bumped up
> to the top of the google search instead.
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David Pashley writes:
> I'd hope that people actually clicked on the page in question rather
> than just seeing the email address in the summary on the google search.
We don't hear from those ones.
> But yes, I agree that some users are occasionally stupid or lazy or both.
Those we do hear from.
* Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-06 17:39:06]:
> Which I fail to understand, as the limited rights provided to me by
> law should be sufficient for the wiki content in most cases.
i spoke to a german lawyer about this exact (license) issue when
skolelinux.de pondered an applicabl
Actually, I stand partially corrected as of:
> Actually, in Norway, I got a limited right to copy it, a given right
> to modify it, a limited right to distribute it, and a limited right to
> distribute copies.
Down here (Brasil) -- and I suspect in the USofA too -- NO (or, better
saying, extremel
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David Pashley wrote:
> John Hasler praised the llamas by saying:
> > And helping people get off C4LL W4VE is not our job.
>
> Surely we should do our best to help all computer users, not just Debian
> users. :)
It is not practical nor even possible to do so. The noise is
overwhelming!
I have a p
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 04:44:41PM +0100, David Pashley wrote:
[...]
> Even still, it's worth trying to get
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/01/msg01444.html bumped
> up to the top of the google search all the same.
[...]
Perhaps I'm missing something, but it seems to me that it would b
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which I fail to understand, as the limited rights provided to me by
> law should be sufficient for the wiki content in most cases.
I think it's fairly reasonable to think that anything[1] that appears in
debian.org should be shippable in main.
[1]
On Sep 05, 2005 at 18:33, John Hasler praised the llamas by saying:
> David Pashley writes:
> > No, because that doesn't help the next person that searches on Google.
>
> If these people read the messages they find with their searches they
> wouldn't post here. They don't. They just grab the add
[Humberto Massa Guimarães]
> Yes, you do need a license to the content of your books. Only thing is,
> when you buy a book you are buying the right to read it. NOT the right
> to copy it. NOT the right to modify it. NOT the right to redistribute
> (modified or not) copies.
Actually, in Norway, I g
> I might be slow, but can you explain why we need a license for this?
> I do not need to license my books, but I do need to license my
> software. Why should the wiki documents be treated more like software
> than a book?
Yes, you do need a license to the content of your books. Only thing is,
wh
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 04:33:32PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Francesco P. Lovergine:
>
> >> I've looked at the SQLite code and it does this. At the same time, it
> >> has to implement recursive locks (which can be entered multiple times
> >> by the same locker, hence it embeds a locker ID
* Francesco P. Lovergine:
>> I've looked at the SQLite code and it does this. At the same time, it
>> has to implement recursive locks (which can be entered multiple times
>> by the same locker, hence it embeds a locker ID (the value returned by
>> phtread_self) in the lock data structure. This
[MarkX A Allyn]
> What would happen if we can change the policy of the lists
> (debian-boot, debian-devel, and so forth) so that they will not
> accept email except from those people who have already subscribed
> and have confirmed?
Is this a retorical question? A lot of spam and non-spam message
* MarkX A. Allyn:
> What would happen if we can change the policy of the lists (debian-boot,
> debian-devel, and so forth) so that they will not accept email
> except from those people who have already subscribed and have
> confirmed?
For some general lists which are Cc:ed regularly (debian-devel
On 9/6/05, Allyn, MarkX A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have a question about the general lists; not the bug tracker.
>
> What would happen if we can change the policy of the lists (debian-boot,
> debian-devel, and so forth) so that they will not accept email
> except from those people who hav
I have a question about the general lists; not the bug tracker.
What would happen if we can change the policy of the lists (debian-boot,
debian-devel, and so forth) so that they will not accept email
except from those people who have already subscribed and have
confirmed?
I belong to some email
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On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 11:35:50AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Francesco P. Lovergine:
>
> >> SQLite databases (and Subversion repositories) are intended to be
> >> opened concurrently by multiple processes.
>
> > To be more clear: programs which use ordinary file locking to
> > syncronize t
On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 07:47:15PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote:
> > It may be worthwhile to simply survey all the curl-using packages in
> > sarge, though, and find out if there is a non-zero number of them that
> > need SSL_CTX_FUNCTION. If *not*, then I don't think there's much sense
> > in
On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 17:17 +0300, Delian Delchev wrote:
> Some of the startup scripts does not depend on each other. For example –
> starting of mysql and postgresql does not depend. So why we don't do it
> in parallel?
>
> If we place the same number id's for S[0-9][0-9]* links for each scripts
* Francesco P. Lovergine:
>> SQLite databases (and Subversion repositories) are intended to be
>> opened concurrently by multiple processes.
> To be more clear: programs which use ordinary file locking to
> syncronize threads need to be fixed.
I've looked at the SQLite code and it does this. At
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 11:07:34AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 09:00:36PM +0200, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
> > Hi, Wouter:
> > El Lunes, 05 Septiembre 2005 19:52, Wouter Verhelst escribió:
> > [...]
> > > "spam", as in, unsolicited bulk email, was named after a particular
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 10:58:59AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> I might be slow, but can you explain why we need a license for this?
> I do not need to license my books, but I do need to license my
> software. Why should the wiki documents be treated more like software
> than a book?
your
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Jon Dowland]
>> I would like to make a desperate plee that some attempt is made to
>> incorporate a clear indication of the licence under which material on
>> this wiki is available under, either with a user-readable prompt or
>> machine-readable me
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 09:00:36PM +0200, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
> Hi, Wouter:
>
> El Lunes, 05 Septiembre 2005 19:52, Wouter Verhelst escribió:
> [...]
> > "spam", as in, unsolicited bulk email, was named after a particular
> > brand of corned beef. See http://www.spam.com/
>
> Not exactly. Sp
[Jon Dowland]
> I would like to make a desperate plee that some attempt is made to
> incorporate a clear indication of the licence under which material on
> this wiki is available under, either with a user-readable prompt or
> machine-readable metadata (ideally both).
I might be slow, but can you
Hi,
On Tuesday 06 September 2005 01:13, Jon Dowland wrote:
> I would like to make a desperate plee that some attempt is made to
> incorporate a clear indication of the licence under which material on
> this wiki is available under, either with a user-readable prompt or
> machine-readable metadata
Just fix the program that generates our HTML mailing list archives, and
make it output for mails which
contain any of the Forbidden Words!
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On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 01:08:00PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
wrote:
> Based on the text on the w.d.o frontpage it seems that Michael Ivey
> has provided the tar.gz with all the w.d.n contents.
I would like to make a desperate plee that some attempt is made to
incorporate a clear indica
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