Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW

2007-06-01 Thread Daniel Schepler
On Friday 01 June 2007 05:59:14 am Kari Pahula wrote: > I'd like to file a wishlist bug on people who file FTBFS bugs. > > It would be nice if you checked first whether there's a package > pending in NEW or incoming and see if that might resolve the issue > already. > > I'm looking at you, #426867.

shell and sed vs awk perl and python (Re: checklib ;)

2007-06-01 Thread Oleg Verych
* From: Manoj Srivastava * Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:24:20 -0500 > On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:53:10 + (UTC), Oleg Verych ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Notes about original: >> - `basename' doesn't work, > > Why? It seems to work perfectly fine here. > __> basename > /usr/local/src/arch

Re: Converting an svn-buildpackage repository to git

2007-06-01 Thread Cameron Dale
On 5/31/07, Cameron Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm thinking of converting a subversion repository I use for one of my debian packages to git (preferably with all history intact). [snip] No replies, so I brute-forced it. It's not pretty, but it works. I posted it on the wiki: http://wiki.d

Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW

2007-06-01 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 01:01:07PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > The problem is that it already takes time to file those bugs, and that > there are a lots of bugs to file. For example, on May 22nd, 515 packages > failed to build, and 240 failures have not been analyzed yet, so that's > 240 pote

Bug#427113: ITP: xl2tpd -- a layer 2 tunneling protocol implementation

2007-06-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: xl2tpd Version : 1.1.09 Upstream Author : Paul Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.xelerance.com/software/xl2tpd/ *

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:51:27PM -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: > Santiago Vila wrote: > > That's the fundamental mistake I see here: We should not be telling > > programs what "release" they are running to begin with. We do not try > > to make packages to work under the assumption that they will run

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-01 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 04:54:03PM -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: > Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:51:27PM -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: > >> (Mildly amusing sidenote to this discussion: I'm finally convincing the > >> senior systems guy that Packages Are Good, and now developers f

Re: checklib

2007-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:53:10 + (UTC), Oleg Verych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Notes about original: > - `basename' doesn't work, Why? It seems to work perfectly fine here. __> basename /usr/local/src/arch/packages--debian/kernel-package/kernel-package/debian/common/checklibs checkli

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:51:27 -0400, Kris Deugau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > (I keep looking at what I've written, and thinking "That's not quite > right" or "I'm forgetting some critical argument" or "That sounds very > argumentative/rude but I can't think of a better way to phrase it". I > *hav

Re: ADV: Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-01 Thread Kris Deugau
Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:51:27PM -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: >> (Mildly amusing sidenote to this discussion: I'm finally convincing the >> senior systems guy that Packages Are Good, and now developers for the >> upstream OS seem to be telling me Packages Are Useless, bec

Re: checklib

2007-06-01 Thread Oleg Verych
* From: Manoj Srivastava * Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:04:01 -0500 * Organization: The Debian Project [] > (I tend not to optimize before determining whether it is needed). Even trailing whitespace your editor tend not to remove, before X time ;) [] > If someone wants to port my simple sh

Re: ADV: Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-01 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:51:27PM -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: > (Mildly amusing sidenote to this discussion: I'm finally convincing the > senior systems guy that Packages Are Good, and now developers for the > upstream OS seem to be telling me Packages Are Useless, because I can't > even count on a

Re: python, then C++, or C++ from the start?

2007-06-01 Thread Oleg Verych
> On 2007-05-31 08:13, Oleg Verych wrote: >> I like shell PITAs. At least it will start to run everywhere by >> `/bin/sh' (dash, busybox, bash, zsh, whatever :) > > How do you implement control sockets or listen on the netlink socket > with shell? Do you want to tail 'ip monitor'? Even if, how do y

Re: undo configuration file changes

2007-06-01 Thread Steve Greenland
On 31-May-07, 04:17 (CDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In the Moment i'm packaging some software and wonder if there is a > possibility to handle files such as crontab or configuration files of > other programs to add a directive with postinst but also to remove that > directive with prerm. Is ther

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-01 Thread Kris Deugau
(I keep looking at what I've written, and thinking "That's not quite right" or "I'm forgetting some critical argument" or "That sounds very argumentative/rude but I can't think of a better way to phrase it". I *have* gotten an interesting discussion out of this thread, however.) Santiago Vila wro

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-01 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:55:57AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > I wonder why do we need a file to tell the user about the contents of > > his /etc/apt/sources.list file. Have you read "How do I know which > > distribution I'm running?"

libpkg / libupt / libept gets popcon support

2007-06-01 Thread Enrico Zini
Hello, the name of the new library is still in flux, and maybe it'll end up with the name 'libept' and replacing the libept we have now. But in the meantime, name or no name, I implemented access to popcon information (!) It works like this: 1. Download http://popcon.debian.org/all-popcon-resu

Re: python, then C++, or C++ from the start?

2007-06-01 Thread martin f krafft
On 2007-05-31 08:13, Oleg Verych wrote: > I like shell PITAs. At least it will start to run everywhere by > `/bin/sh' (dash, busybox, bash, zsh, whatever :) How do you implement control sockets or listen on the netlink socket with shell? Do you want to tail 'ip monitor'? Even if, how do you do con

Plugin API/ABI versions

2007-06-01 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Many applications allow their functionality to be extended by means of plugins, often in the form of libraries that the application dlopen()s. Usually the application provides an API, and like other APIs these APIs (and ABIs) can evolve, calling for versioned dependencies. But executables aren't

Re: python, then C++, or C++ from the start?

2007-06-01 Thread Andreas Rottmann
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dear colleagues, > > I am starting to write netconf [0], finally. Or rather, I would if > I could settle on a language. If netconf is ever going to replace > ifupdown, it would need to have a low footprint and few > dependencies. This clearly suggests

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-01 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:26:34PM +0200, Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: > PS: To address the original question: Being a molecular biologist, my > initial idea was to use an approach similar to that used in gene > analysis: look at the entire set of packages installed on a specific > system (package n

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-01 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:55:57AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > I wonder why do we need a file to tell the user about the contents of > his /etc/apt/sources.list file. Have you read "How do I know which > distribution I'm running?" in base-files FAQ? The answer is still > valid for *any* file whic

Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW

2007-06-01 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Fri Jun 01, 2007 at 12:59:14 +0300, Kari Pahula wrote: > I'd like to file a wishlist bug on people who file FTBFS bugs. > > It would be nice if you checked first whether there's a package > pending in NEW or incoming and see if that might resolve the issue > already. This could be realiz

Re: ITP: mm3d -- Misfit Model 3D

2007-06-01 Thread Gürkan Sengün
description to figure out what the package is at all. What about: Description: OpenGL-based 3D model editor Misfit Model 3D works with triangle-based models. [...] Fantastic, I've changed that for the 1.2.4 version, and added the supported file formats [1] to the 1.3.4 (experimental) one: ht

Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW

2007-06-01 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 01/06/07 at 12:59 +0300, Kari Pahula wrote: > I'd like to file a wishlist bug on people who file FTBFS bugs. > > It would be nice if you checked first whether there's a package > pending in NEW or incoming and see if that might resolve the issue > already. > > I'm looking at you, #426867. Eve

Bug#427029: ITP: whichwayisup -- 2D platform game with a slight rotational twist

2007-06-01 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: whichwayisup Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : Olli "Hectigo" Etuaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://hectigo.net/puskutraktori/whichwayisup/ * License : GPL 2.0, Creative

Last call for keys for keysigning in Edinburgh during DebConf7

2007-06-01 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
Hello All, As part of the 8th Debian Conference in Edinburgh, Scotland, there will be OpenPGP (pgp/gpg) keysignings. If you intend to participate in the DebConf7 keysignings, please send your ascii armored public key as explained at [0] not later than Saturday 9th of June, 2007 (UTC). To consider

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-01 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
PS: To address the original question: Being a molecular biologist, my initial idea was to use an approach similar to that used in gene analysis: look at the entire set of packages installed on a specific system (package name and version), and then determine what known distro the set is closest

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-01 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
Hi, I once wrote a small python utility called udist that tries to work out which distribution it runs on. It works on several RPM based distributions, as well as the Debian based distros I've tested. I originally had in mind putting the project on a public server and involving more people to

Re: ITP: mm3d -- Misfit Model 3D

2007-06-01 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
> Description : Misfit Model 3D > This is an OpenGL-based 3D model editor that works with triangle-based > models. [...] unfortunately the short description doesn't tell anything about the package, except the name(?). Peopel would have to read the long description to figure out what the pa

Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW

2007-06-01 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/01/07 04:59, Kari Pahula wrote: I'd like to file a wishlist bug on people who file FTBFS bugs. It would be nice if you checked first whether there's a package pending in NEW or incoming and see if that might resolve the issue already. I'm looking at you, #426867. Eve

Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW

2007-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 01 June 2007 12:35, Ron Johnson wrote: > Even though "I" am not #426867, how do you access the NEW queue? Google for "debian new"; third hit: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html You cannot access the packages themselves, but it does show which bugs are fixed. pgpQ8mG5NQ35A.pgp Desc

Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW

2007-06-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/01/07 04:59, Kari Pahula wrote: I'd like to file a wishlist bug on people who file FTBFS bugs. It would be nice if you checked first whether there's a package pending in NEW or incoming and see if that might resolve the issue already. I'm looking at you, #426867. Even though "I" am not

Re: Bug#426874: ITP: pkg -- High-level library for managing Debian package information

2007-06-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/01/07 04:41, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 01:29:47PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: * Package name: pkg Description : High-level library for managing Debian package information Great to see this!, but I'm rather scared about its name: isn't "pkg" too generic? Wo

Re: Bug#426874: ITP: pkg -- High-level library for managing Debian package information

2007-06-01 Thread Enrico Zini
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 11:41:45AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Great to see this!, but I'm rather scared about its name: isn't "pkg" > too generic? Wouldn't "debpkg" be a better (since more specific and > describing) name? After some discussion in #debian-devel, I went for 'upt'. Ciao,

Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW

2007-06-01 Thread Kari Pahula
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Re: Bug#426874: ITP: pkg -- High-level library for managing Debian package information

2007-06-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 01:29:47PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > * Package name: pkg > Description : High-level library for managing Debian package information Great to see this!, but I'm rather scared about its name: isn't "pkg" too generic? Wouldn't "debpkg" be a better (since more speci

ITP: mm3d -- Misfit Model 3D

2007-06-01 Thread Gürkan Sengün
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: mm3d Version : 1.2.4 or/and 1.3.4 Upstream Authors: Kevin Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.misfitcode.com/misfitmodel3d/ * License : GNU GPL Description : Misfit Model 3D This is an OpenGL-