e contact me?
Unfortunately I'm not available until February, but if you have any problems
I'd try to help.
Thanks,
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GPG public key fingerprint: 360C 852F
Josip Rodin wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:00:56PM +0300, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > On the bts web interface, it's written that closed bugs are cleaned
> > up after a period of inactivity. Are they permanently erased?
> > I'd prefer that a complet
On the bts web interface, it's written that closed bugs are cleaned
up after a period of inactivity. Are they permanently erased?
I'd prefer that a complete history of all bugs is preserved.
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be used in an unlimited fashion. Which is usual for a development
tool.
URL:
http://sources.redhat.com/cgen/
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Colin Watson wrote:
>
>
> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ (hmm, I appear to
> have that memorized - I end up grabbing it any time I'm at a public
> Windows-based Internet terminal).
>
way cool. a mud addict friend of mine always used putty, now i see why :)
you can even do x-
Hi Martin,
please cc to me
Martin Bialasinski wrote:
>
> > I have developed a great liking for bug reports somehow.
>
> Then you just need to develope some skill for a) analysing bugs and
> writing useful reports and b) not going crazy when developers ask
> further question if they don't have a
Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> Ah, so you have a time machine which you used to tell your earlier self
> that there was going to be trouble from me over bug 81397?
>
No comments. :)
> You CC'ed your *initial report* to debian-devel and debian-x, before I had
> anything at all to say on the subject
Greg Stark wrote:
> Just writing in your conclusions is useless 90% of the time. Your conclusions
> may be right but the maintainer doesn't have ESP and can't necessarily deduce
> where they came from and what the bug is.
I will try to assemble a test case as soon as I have some time. It's
been a
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:34:04PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > If you call your insults to another contributor to debian "deserved rant",
> > then I'd think you are either misinterpreting your status or unaware of
> > an
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> There IS a debconf question about it.. it's not like it just does it to you
> without asking. Maybe the debconf priority of the question is too low if
> too many people are missing it.
Do you think this is also what prevented display managers (xdm, gdm, wings
are the ones t
"Oliver M . Bolzer" wrote:
>
> You are still not getting it, arn`t you? It is not about the content at atll,
> is about quoting PRIVATE mail in PUBLIC places without asking FIRST. Sorry
> for shouting, but this has to be said.
>
Yes, I am getting it. But I'd always thought that content did matte
Hi Matt!!
I don't report a bug due to misconfiguration. Let's see if what you
see applies, though.
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> First, "man su" to find out where su(1) is getting its environment from.
> Searching for 'environment' on that man page, you can find this:
>
>The current environm
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 07:48:58PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote:
> > Such primitive reaction of yours is not likely to arouse interest
> > in prospective contributors; to join debian and to work with people
> > like you.
>
> Fortunately, Era
This is how it looks like
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet borg
Trying 139.179.21.143...
Connected to borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr.
Escape character is '^]'.
Debian GNU/Linux woody borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr
login: root
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# echo $PATH
/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/gam
Hi
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> There is not enough information in this report to actually do
> anything about debugging the problem. You don't even mention what
> shell you are using as /bin/sh; what you have in /etc/environemnt;
> what you have in the configuration files for the rot u
Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> I can handle it just fine when clueful people characterize me as
> "psychotic". When professional ignorami like you get hysterical on two
> mailing lists and the BTS simultaneously over a FAQ, because you upgraded
> your production system to an unstable, unreleased ope
Russell Coker wrote:
>
> This is already being done for some packages. Check the maintainer address
> on the gcc package for an example.
>
> The thing that determines this is whether there are multiple people who are
> skillful and willing to work.
>
> If you want to be the second developer for
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > Oh, and just to chime in on this little bit, I did not start maintaining
> > glibc until Aug 31, 2000 (my first changelog entry). So no, I have not
> > been sitting on this for 7 months. Get your facts straight.
>
> And just to chime in, I appreciate the huge effort an
Russell Coker wrote:
>
> I'm sure that Ben will welcome your contributions towards maintaining the
> libc6 package. All you have to do is read the list of bugs, solve some, and
> send in patches.
I'm not trying to bash Ben. He did a wonderful work in resolving many
bugs and generally keeping up-
Tim Bell wrote:
>
> Now I'm sure Ben is plenty busy with libc6 and whatever else he does,
> and I don't mean to blame him for this slipping through. But the
> thought that bugs are getting closed without being fixed is worrying.
That's my point. A package like libc6 is burdensome. It would not b
Now it's my unavoidable duty to find out what has caused me to file this
bug.
Thanks,
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo
Ben Collins wrote:
>
> Oh, and just to chime in on this little bit, I did not start maintaining
> glibc until Aug 31, 2000 (my first changelog entry). So no, I have not
> been sitting on this for 7 months. Get your facts straight.
I'm really ashamed, Ben. Sorry, sorry, sorry. :{
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Ben Collins wrote:
>
> WHAT TO DO:
> - Get a clue
> - Read better
Roger that.
Getting a clue:
It looks like I was having a bad day; due to the nature of hack mode
I have done it incorrectly
Reading better:
Looks like I'm still having a bad day. If I can't strcmp then how
will I rightfully
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Indeed, you should feel lucky that even the non standard
> PTHREAD_ERRORCHECK_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP is provided by the
> implementation, even though not present in ISO/IEC 9945-1
Yep, I know what NP means. My trouble was something else but I
had thought that it w
Ben Collins wrote:
>
>
> WOW. Go fucking figure. YOUR BUG REPORT says
>
> PTHREAD_ERRORCHECK_INITIALIZER_NP
>
> while this info page shows
>
> PTHREAD_ERRORCHECK_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP
>
argh. my first great mistake of the millenium. fuck me real hard.
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C
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Wanted to make an ass of yourself in public, eh?
Yep.
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Peter Palfrader wrote:
>
> Did you do this first?
No. I'm sending it here because I want it to be seen.
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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laimed in
docs
Date:
Wed, 03 May 2000 22:03:20 +0300
From:
Eray Ozkural <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Package: libc6-dev
Version: 2.1.3-8
Severity: normal
The preprocessor macro seems to be undefined. There are also other
subtleties while using pth
Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> You know, kinda like the way I went nuclear on Wichert when he broke vim.
You use vi? Emacs rules.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I don't know about freshmeat (I only use it for the software search engine),
> but IMHO Sourceforge suffers just as much or probably even more so from the
> current Debian hierarchy problem: too generic or just overcrowded categories.
That's two of the problems I'm tr
I'll be off for a few days, so I may not be able to answer the
posts in RFC: pools... thread.
Happy New Year!!
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Neal H Walfield wrote:
> I think that this is a reasonable idea, however, it only addresses a
> small part of the problem. I feel that a better solution would be to use
> a similar method to perl modules: a hierarchal name space. In fact, we
We'll have better than that :) My tool will have a ful
esoR ocsirF wrote:
>
> Greetings,
> IANAD, but I would like to suggest an idea that I had. There has been a
> lot of interest in getting packages arranged by different
> catagorizations, something like the menu. Most ideas that I have seen so
> far seem to imply adding new fields to the debs, but
Hi Martin,
in the light of what has been discussed...
could you please replicate the bug and report
upstream?
thanks,
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Chad Miller wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:41:28PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > BUT gmc (and most possibly mc) will not be
> > able to rename stuff, though you can move
> > files ;) It's a bug for certain!
>
> Whoa. I don't understand th
Nathan E Norman wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 03:05:50AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > Martin. Yes. I tried. Do you think I'm a newbie or something? Why
> > do you think the file is owned by root? It's on windows partition...
>
> Hold on ... this is
"Eray Ozkural (exa)" wrote:
>
> Try to reproduce what I do there. The permissions on parent
> are irrelevant. That's a vfat filesystem. Permissions are
> same everywhere anyway if you wonder.
Sorry sorry sorry sorry. Permissions on parent of course do matter
as you exp
Jason Henry Parker wrote:
> At a guess, I would say this is a non-bug.
I'm saying that I can't rename a file using gmc which I *can*
otherwise rename. So your first guess in not very accurate.
You know how to rename something in gmc, yes? You do that
in the properties of a file, by editing the na
Hi Martin,
cross-posting to debian-devel because your assessment of the
bug is totally wrong.
Martin Bialasinski wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > I can rename a directory to which I have permissions in shell
>
> > orion:mp3$ ls -ald Rob\ Zombie/
> > drwxrwxr-x2 root windows 16384 May 21 2000
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> This is a big nuisance. I spent months working on a project with
> a shared directory without individual user groups. Worse yet, you
> can end up with a CVS repository full of files with user-only
> permissions (using a local CVS repositor, rather than remote).
>
Ok. Th
Peter Eckersley wrote:
>
>
> If my I want a file to be readable by everybody *except* user fred, I
> can set permissions:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> ls -l plot-against-fred
> -rwr--1 pde fred 1 Dec 27 17:12 plot-against-fred
>
> Of course, I need root access to do it :(
Brian May wrote:
> zsh has in /etc/zshrc:
>
> [[ $UID == $GID ]] && umask 002 || umask 022
>
> My only dislike is it overrides my default setup in ~/.zshenv of 077.
> It seems wrong to put this stuff in zshrc, that only gets used for
> interactive shells. zshenv gets processed for all shells, but
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
> > annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
> > reall necessary?
>
> No, but it
Brian May wrote:
>
> > "exa" == exa writes:
>
> exa> Brian May wrote:
> >> - harder to administrate /etc/passwd as more users exist.
>
> exa> I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
> exa> annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
>
Nathan E Norman wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> > I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
> > annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
> > reall necessary?
>
> It&#x
Anand Kumria wrote:
>
> In future please send those kinds of emails privately.
mis-take. :)
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Brian May wrote:
>
> - harder to administrate /etc/passwd as more users exist.
I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
reall necessary?
cu,
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e-mail:
Mistakenly sent to debian-devel. This is off topic.
Merry Xmas to you all!!
Cheers,
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Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo
Brian May wrote:
>
> 2. Get rid of maintainer scripts (don't ask me how...) so that
> upgrading packages is guaranteed not to destroy your computer, even if
> the package came an from untrusted source. This could be carried
> further by saying "no daemons can be started by UID=root without
> expre
Hi Thomas,
I got back to working on ontology, and I'd like to give an answer to
one of your previous remarks. Your last e-mail was a bit harsh but
I'm hoping that you will find my view worthwhile. ;)
"Thomas Bushnell, BSG" wrote:
>
> I think that logic has a great deal to do with semantics.
>
>
Joseph Carter wrote:
>
> On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 07:54:00PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > personally the plain text database is one of dpkg's greatest assets.
> > its a royal pain to repair a binary database when it gets fscked. and
> > yes i have already been saved from a total reinstall throug
"Dwayne C . Litzenberger" wrote:
> I wrote..
> >
> > It should be re-usable as a library for implementing packages/modules
> > for PLs·
>
> Erm, now I'm getting confused. I assume you mean that this package manager
> should also be a framework for loadable modules. Isn't that way outsi
Joseph Carter wrote:
>
> I think if dpkg used some sort of hashed database index it would be a hell
> of a lot nicer to people's CPUs and memory. Whether or not that requires
> a re-implemenetation of dpkg or not isn't for me to say since I haven't
> looked at dpkg's code in 3 years.
That smells
"Dwayne C . Litzenberger" wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I'm starting work on a new linux package manager. The idea is to be able to
> replace rpm, dpkg, apt, dselect (backend) with one,written mostly from scratch
> and designed to be as simple (code, not features) and clean as possible. For
> now, the
Randolph Chung wrote:
> > The recent article in one of the Linux magazines about using netboot
> > and dhcp to automate installs in a computing lab was very
> > interesting. How can debian installer do something like that?
>
> i didn't see this article, but in many cases these are done with gh
Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> Wow, I may have to revise my opinion of France, then.
Isn't France the same country that tried to spy on Netscape's SSL
implementation?
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:27:43 Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> Avoid it like hell. This is really unpleasant. Please, please consider all
> alternatives. For example, fixing the program so that it doesn't require the
> other source.
>
I was wrong anyway, but I'll avoid that in the future :)
Thanks,
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I'm building a package that needs the source of another (existing)
package in Debian. You have to configure the source directory
of that other program. What's the proper way to do that? I don't want
to replicate the source dirs becase they take many megabytes.
Thanks,
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Comp.
For those who're keen on seeing the insight and sourcenav packages,
I've made some progress on the matter. I was unable to spare
any volunteer time due to a hardware crash this week and a problem
with the lame cable company the week before that, so there was
a small delay. :I
It seems that the pa
I ITP'd this before, hands off :) Why don't you check the list BTW?
And the wnpp? That's why the BTS is being used, right?
Here are the bug report numbers for your reference
#68583: ITP: Insight
#68584: ITP: sourcenav
These are the ITP's I made some time ago, still working on them.
I've
Yep, I ITP'ed sourcenav and insight.. a _minor_ problem with
the tcl/tk stuff, but I think I'll just wrap it up soon.
Thanks,
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Seems like my mirror has somehow not been
able to update. The latest I've got is M15..
Should check fmirror configuration.
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+ Eray "exa" Ozkural . . . . . .
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If that lib's in M17, how do I get M17 debs?
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+ Eray "exa" Ozkural . . . . . .
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orion:exa$ galeon
/usr/bin/galeon-bin: error in loading shared libraries: libgtkembedmoz.so:
cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
What's happening? Where's this library? How could I install the package
if this is a dependency?
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Thomas Guettler wrote:
> But I am interested
> what you think about this crazy idea to remove
> version numbers (like debian2.2) from debian?
It's really crazy. Removing version numbers mean that the
dependency graph must be synchronized globally which is
impossible AFAIK. In addition to this, it
You may use the following apt source for my ddclient deb and
the sather debs that I've fixed for woody.
deb http://139.179.21.143/~exa/debian/ ./
Please see ITPs on wnpp and on this list for information on these
packages.
Thanks,
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+ E
I was running dpkg-scanpackages to construct a custom apt source.
This was the first time I really ran it, so I encountered the
peculiar style that I had to conform to.
This was what I had to write to make a Packages file in a flat dir:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html/debian$ dpkg-scanpackages .
include /sbin,
/usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin in user's default path.
That way, filesystem standard compliance is not disturbed, and the users
have those programs in their path by default.
Thanks,
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onfig" is a system program,
and a user should manually augment his path if he wishes to run it.
I request you to re-consider the proposal. Supplying a symbolic link would
be better than putting the /sbin in user's path, because we may then decide
which programs in /sbin are needed by normal users.
Thanks,
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:36:26 Ben Collins wrote:
> Official sets are main+contrib, which is 3cd's. This can include non-US or
> not (only CD1 is different in that case). Sometimes vendors provide a 4th
> binary CD with non-free (may or may not include non-US/non-free). The
> source CD's are also 3 i
w many CDs sources take.
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led locally, it wasn't worth the archive
> space or the manpower or extra trouble.
I disagree. From experience, I know that up to %50 speedup can be gained
in number crunching stuff. I'd suspect %20 could be pretty normal for
most CPU hungry apps, and the overall speedup would be signific
"J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 14:12:49 -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote:
> > try this hypothetical release method out:
> >
> > there are two trees. let's call them devel and production. debian saavy
> > folks (maintainers) run devel. new packages are uploaded to devel where
> >
Michael Stone wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:27:18PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Ed Szynaka wrote:
> > > How does this account for drastic changes to something
like libc that
> > > might take weeks or months to shake out?
>
> Build daemons could take care
printing tools in potato. Few
would
then dare to make an upgrade to unstable.
That is, you would certainly like some consistency and reliability, but not at
the cost
of missing a huge proportion of good software out there. That's what
distribution is
all about, right? Giving people some choices.
>
> Paul
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> mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Eray Ozkural,
CS, Bilkent Univ.
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 02:34:55PM +0300, Eray Ozkural wrote:
> > I'm not a debian developer yet (and seems like I won't even attempt till I
> > feel that new maintainers are welcome),
>
> If you've got a really u
Hi,
I'm not a debian developer yet (and seems like I won't even attempt till I
feel that new maintainers are welcome), but I just wanted to comment on
how a re-organization might be done.
First of all, I'd like to state that dpkg system is all very well thought.
Speaking of modularity, package m
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