Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:01:25 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> According to the reports of another member of the ftp-master team, the >> situation was cleared up, but Mr. Troup re-enabled the check that >> breaks dpkg-sig on purpose aft

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > According to the reports of another member of the ftp-master team, the > situation was cleared up, but Mr. Troup re-enabled the check that > breaks dpkg-sig on purpose after not being amused about HE's rant on > here. If this is accurate, it is not reasona

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What are you trying to do instead? If you might have noticed, we have > _just_ _another_ ftpmaster situation _right_ _now_, and from handling > of #339686 by a member of the DPL team I don't get the impression that > the DPL team actually cares. I can't un

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Marc Haber [Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:38:15 +0100]: > I confused these bugs because in the discussion, somebody used #339686 > to show that I am doing a job as bad as Mr. Troup. 10:18 Zugschlus: so. how'd you'd feel if I said that #339686 was a deliberate attempt on your part to consci

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:14:47 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Marc Haber wrote: >> Sorry. #340306. > >Hmm... wasn't the situation around this bug cleared up in another d-devel >thread no more than two or three days ago, and a fix already commited t

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are you trying to do instead? If you might have noticed, we have > _just_ _another_ ftpmaster situation _right_ _now_, and from handling > of #339686 by a member of the DPL team I don't get the impression that > the DPL team actually cares. (#340306)

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh] > Hmm... wasn't the situation around this bug cleared up in another > d-devel thread no more than two or three days ago, and a fix already > commited to CVS? That's what I thought. But the bug is still open. And jvw's reasoning that it is OK for ftp.debian.org to c

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > Sorry. #340306. Hmm... wasn't the situation around this bug cleared up in another d-devel thread no more than two or three days ago, and a fix already commited to CVS? -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all an

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:32:19 -0500, Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >* Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:11:23 11:07 +0100]: >> What are you trying to do instead? If you might have noticed, we have >> _just_ _another_ ftpmaster situation _right_ _now_, and from handling >> of #339686 by

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:11:23 11:07 +0100]: > What are you trying to do instead? If you might have noticed, we have > _just_ _another_ ftpmaster situation _right_ _now_, and from handling > of #339686 by a member of the DPL team I don't get the impression that > the DPL team actuall

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:41:21 +0100, Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >* Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-21 23:33:48]: >> If the DPL team is actually addressing that issue, it is not doing so >> transparently. > >That was on purpose. we thought that there was something to be >lea

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-21 23:33:48]: > If the DPL team is actually addressing that issue, it is not doing so > transparently. That was on purpose. we thought that there was something to be learned from threads on public mailinglists that lead nowhere and wanted to try private m

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-22 08:52:25]: > * Andreas Schuldei: > > > i have not given up that hope yet and i invest a considerable > > amount of time working on this issue as part of my work on the > > DPL-Team. others there do so, too. > > Is this the "delegation to teams" it

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > > Get to next debconf and see him actually work with people. > > No need for words. > > did i beat someone up when i was watched? did it get caught on > film, even? (c: ... where did the evidence go? :) --j -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Scripsit Anand Kumria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 02:18:02AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: >> If somebody designs and implements (after a suitable architectural >> review) some software to support distributed keyring maintenance in a >> secure, auditable way, it is likely that ca

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Jaakko Niemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-22 17:12:00]: > On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > i have not given up that hope yet and i invest a considerable > > > amount of time working on this issue as part of my work on the > >

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > i have not given up that hope yet and i invest a considerable > > amount of time working on this issue as part of my work on the > > DPL-Team. others there do so, too. > > I hope this is true. I rea

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Andreas Schuldei: > i have not given up that hope yet and i invest a considerable > amount of time working on this issue as part of my work on the > DPL-Team. others there do so, too. Is this the "delegation to teams" item on ? A rather cryptic refe

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i have not given up that hope yet and i invest a considerable > amount of time working on this issue as part of my work on the > DPL-Team. others there do so, too. I hope this is true. I really do. However, I have no particular evidence that it is

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

[Anand Kumria] > - require the developer to generate a new key > - require the developer to have _at least_ N > number of other, existing developers sign > their key > - once the devel

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Hi Henning, On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 02:18:02AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > "push aside"? There's no rule that says there can be only one. Yes, > > replacing someone could become ugly, but providing additional hands > > can't be conside

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:05:02 +0100, Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >* Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-21 08:55:52]: >> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:29:19 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >I seriously hope the non-elected people blocking and slowing down >>

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Scripsit Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My first thought would be to simply create multiple keyrings, one for > each keyring maintainer, which are merged on a regular basis. Teaching > the archive scripts to look at more than one keyring wouldn't be too > hard. That would not solve

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > Anyway, surely the acceptance onto the keyring is designated by a > signiture on that key, not just by it's presense in a particular file? Yes, it *is* the presense in a particular file. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them.

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

2005/11/21, Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It can be considered bad from a technical viewpoint - as far as I > understand the master copy of the keyring is currently on a medium > that is under the keyring maintainer's direct physical control. > > The "obvious" way of switching to team main

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-21 08:55:52]: > On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:29:19 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I seriously hope the non-elected people blocking and slowing down > >several important processes in Debian soon realize that there is a > >problem and t

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:29:19 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I seriously hope the non-elected people blocking and slowing down >several important processes in Debian soon realize that there is a >problem and that it might be best for them to solve it by stepping >aside or all

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If somebody designs and implements (after a suitable architectural > review) some software to support distributed keyring maintenance in a > secure, auditable way, it is likely that calls for adding more people > to the task would be considered more se

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Scripsit Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "push aside"? There's no rule that says there can be only one. Yes, > replacing someone could become ugly, but providing additional hands > can't be considered bad, can it? It can be considered bad from a technical viewpoint - as far as I unde

Re: [useless] I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

> "Chip" == Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Chip> Who does a developer have to fuck around here to get his key Chip> deleted? -- Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chip> -- To UNSUBSC Hi. As you are no doubt aware by now, getting your key removed is a great myster

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

"Chip Salzenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Who does a developer have to fuck around here to get his key deleted? -- Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wait. Ignore my previous post. I had forgotten that the resignation post was indeed signed. It might howeve

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

"Chip Salzenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Who does a developer have to fuck around here to get his key deleted? I'm not sure your resignation was valid. Most important debian mechanisms require a signature from a key in the keyring. It is hard for anybody

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

2005/11/20, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I suspect and hope the DPL try to reason with the people in question > first, before the DPL wields his authority and push the current holder > of privileged positions aside, as a power struggle with the overworked > people in these privileged

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

[Nathanael Nerode] > It's a pity the DPL hasn't anointed a less-busy person with > authority to alter the keyring. I suspect and hope the DPL try to reason with the people in question first, before the DPL wields his authority and push the current holder of privileged positions aside, as a power

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Chip Salzenberg wrote: > Who does a developer have to fuck around here to get his key deleted? Same one he has to fuck to get a new key added, presumably. It's a pity the DPL hasn't anointed a less-busy person with authority to alter the keyring. -- ksig --random| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On 15:34 Fri 18 Nov 2005, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > Who does a developer have to fuck around here to get his key deleted? That's the way it is. -- David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://www.damog.net/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | GPG: C671257D Cuando yo nací, la

I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

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