trying to do it with legal finesse ...
Cheers,
Wol
-Original Message-
From: Raul Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 October 2004 11:09
To: Anthony Youngman
Cc: debian-legal@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is this software really GPL?
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 08:04:31AM +0100, Antho
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 11:23:11AM +0100, Anthony Youngman wrote:
> But as I see it, they (QM) are adding an extra restriction, as
> proscribed by the GPL (clauses 6 and 7).
>
> "If you distribute to subsidiaries, you may not stop them distributing
> to the world". But the GPL explicitly recognise
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 06:09:29AM -0400, I wrote:
> Instead, it's pointing out that you can't prohibit employees [for
> example, ad subsidiaries] from distributing it to your competitors or
Er, I meant "at", not "ad".
--
Raul
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 08:04:31AM +0100, Anthony Youngman wrote:
> Sorry for lookout mangling my cut-n-paste - this isn't quite a proper
> reply ...
And the guy who admins this system claims I should be able to
email you now... so hopefully you won't have to do much more of
that.
> Did you look
Note: I've left Anthony Youngman's email address in the headers, but I
seem to have a local problem where email to Anthony bounces. [I can work
around that, using telnet, but it's a pain.] > > > > I strongly
suggest that you read the following two web pages: > >
http://easyco.com/initiative/openqm
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 08:44:46PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> It's misleading.
Yes.
There are lawyers who will express things in a misleading fashion if
they think that's in the best interests of their clients, and if they
think they will not get in legal trouble for doing so.
--
Raul
Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 08:25:07PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
>>>"You cannot install, or ask your customer to install a GPL version of
>>>OpenQM and then install your own product unless that product is also
>>>delivered to the user under GPL or an approved variant."
>>
>>This
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 08:25:07PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > "You cannot install, or ask your customer to install a GPL version of
> > OpenQM and then install your own product unless that product is also
> > delivered to the user under GPL or an approved variant."
>
> This would be accurate fo
Raul Miller wrote:
> Is there any reason to believe that by "GPL" they mean the "GNU Public
> License"?
Just a note: s/GNU Public License/General Public License/g. "GPL" is
"General Public License", and "GNU GPL" is "GNU General Public License";
there is no such thing as the "GNU Public License",
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 07:46:07PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 07:36:08PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > Is there any reason to believe that by "GPL" they mean the "GNU Public
> > License"?
>
> The G in "GPL" is "General", not "GNU". (I'm sure you know this, but
> you sai
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Raul Miller wrote:
> > >
> > > I strongly suggest that you read the following two web pages:
> > > http://easyco.com/initiative/openqm/opensource/index.htm
> > > and the accompanying faq:
> > > http://easyco.com/initiative/openqm/opensource/faq.htm
> > >
>
> On Tue
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 07:36:08PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> Is there any reason to believe that by "GPL" they mean the "GNU Public
> License"?
The G in "GPL" is "General", not "GNU". (I'm sure you know this, but
you said "GNU Public License" several times in this mail.)
> I can think of seve
Note: I've left Anthony Youngman's email address in the headers,
but I seem to have a local problem where email to Anthony bounces.
[I can work around that, using telnet, but it's a pain.]
> >
> > I strongly suggest that you read the following two web pages:
> > http://easyco.com/initiative/
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 07:36:08PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> [4] "GPL" means "GNU Public license" and all sources are readily
> available under the GPL. In this case, the author of those pages is
> probably not competent.
Actually, the pages at those urls look fine -- it's either myself or
the
[I'm taking the liberty of Cc:'ing you against Debian list
policy. Please set MFT in the future if you wish people to respond to
you personally.]
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
> Sorry if this is not quite the right place, but I'm somewhat fuming ...
>
> There's a really nice pie
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 11:23:33PM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
> I strongly suggest that you read the following two web pages:
> http://easyco.com/initiative/openqm/opensource/index.htm
> and the accompanying faq:
> http://easyco.com/initiative/openqm/opensource/faq.htm
Is there
Sorry if this is not quite the right place, but I'm somewhat fuming ...
There's a really nice piece of software, called QM (it's a database)
that has allegedly been released under the GPL by its owner, one Martin
Philips, of a company called Ladybridge, in England.
He was talked into doing th
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