Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-13 Thread Tille, Andreas
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Jim Penny wrote: > I would not care to be the fellow who had a mission critical application, > who 'upgraded', and found his site no longer working, with no way of > backing up to a working configuration. While I agree with you in general (I wonder if it is worth a bug report

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-12 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 12:26:11AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > hmm, then we have to keep zope 2.1 as well (the version from > potato). Why do you want to keep 2.3, not 2.2? Why not 2.5? IMO If you ^ Because it is only

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-12 Thread Matthias Klose
hmm, then we have to keep zope 2.1 as well (the version from potato). Why do you want to keep 2.3, not 2.2? Why not 2.5? IMO If you have a mission critical application, which is incompatible among zope versions, then you should install your own zope. Am I wrong here? Jim Penny writes: > I have a z

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-11 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 10:24:11PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > Mikhail Sobolev writes: > > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > - python-pam: http://bugs.debian.org/119213 > > >See http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/python for a try. > > >However I could

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-11 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 09:40:48AM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: > Looking at testing shows heaps of python2-xxx packages, and even the dreaded > python-base. How do packages disappear from testing, should I file a release > critical bug against python-base? Packages disappear from testing when t

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-10 Thread Donovan Baarda
Quoting Jim Penny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:44:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 07:22:36AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > Anthony Towns writes: [...] > BTW: I have no feeling about dropping python-2.0; it appears that > portation from 2.0

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-10 Thread Matthias Klose
Kim Oldfield writes: > On 10 Dec 2001, Matthias Klose typed: > ] Anthony Towns writes: > ] > Dropping python1.5 doesn't seem a particularly clever thing to do. > ] If we don't have any python1.5 dependencies, why not? > > Because users will have no way of having both 1.5 and 2.1 on the same > mach

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-10 Thread Tille, Andreas
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Jim Penny wrote: > For what its worth, probably very little, I agree with aj. I have a > zope 2.3 site. If I'm not completely wrong Zope 2.3 runs perfectly with Python 2.1. So at least this is no reason to keep Python 1.5. (I'm not talking about other things - just regarding

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-10 Thread Jim Penny
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:44:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 07:22:36AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > Anthony Towns writes: > > > python1.5's still useful to users, isn't it, especially ones with > > > important python programs > > that was the precondition for the re

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-10 Thread Tille, Andreas
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Matthias Klose wrote: > Anthony Towns writes: > > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a > > > bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package. > > > > Eh? > > > >

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-10 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 07:22:36AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > Anthony Towns writes: > > python1.5's still useful to users, isn't it, especially ones with > > important python programs > that was the precondition for the removal. Currently there are xtalk > and python-pam. I do not count pydb, b

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-10 Thread Roland Mas
Jérôme Marant (2001-12-09 20:26:49 +0100) : > Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three >> packages remaining: > ... >> These packages are: >> >> - pychecker >> - python-pqueue >> - python-egenix-mxbase >> - python1.5-imaging

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-10 Thread Kim Oldfield
On 10 Dec 2001, Matthias Klose typed: ] Anthony Towns writes: ] > Dropping python1.5 doesn't seem a particularly clever thing to do. ] If we don't have any python1.5 dependencies, why not? Because users will have no way of having both 1.5 and 2.1 on the same machine as the woody python2.1 package

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-10 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Dec 10, Matthias Klose wrote: > Donovan Baarda writes: > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:53:24AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > > If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a > > > > bug report for ftp.

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-10 Thread Matthias Klose
Donovan Baarda writes: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:53:24AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a > > > bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package.

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-10 Thread Matthias Klose
Anthony Towns writes: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a > > bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package. > > Eh? > > python1.5's still useful to users, isn't it, especially o

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:53:24AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a > > bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package. > > Eh? > > python1.5's stil

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread dman
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:53:24AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: | On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: | > If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a | > bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package. | | Eh? | | python1.5's stil

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread dman
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 10:22:12PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: | dman writes: | > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: | > | It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three | > | packages remaining: | > | > Also gadfly depends on 1.5. Unfortunately it

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a > bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package. Eh? python1.5's still useful to users, isn't it, especially ones with important python programs t

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Matthias Klose
Mikhail Sobolev writes: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > - python-pam: http://bugs.debian.org/119213 > >See http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/python for a try. > >However I couldn't get it reliably working ... > > Could you please give more details on

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Matthias Klose
dman writes: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > | It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three > | packages remaining: > > Also gadfly depends on 1.5. Unfortunately it appears stagnant > upstream (last release in '98). The testsuite passes for

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Jérôme Marant
dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > | It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three > | packages remaining: > > Also gadfly depends on 1.5. Unfortunately it appears stagnant > upstream (last release in '98). The

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread dman
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: | It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three | packages remaining: Also gadfly depends on 1.5. Unfortunately it appears stagnant upstream (last release in '98). The testsuite passes for 2.1 but not 2.2. Both v

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > - python-pam: http://bugs.debian.org/119213 >See http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/python for a try. >However I couldn't get it reliably working ... Could you please give more details on this? I do use this package and wo

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Jérôme Marant
Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is also xtalk that fails to work with newer python, > but so far I have not gotten around to uploading new version > with correct dependencies (it time permits, I'd rather > try to fix the program itself) I've had a look at the package. It

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:26:49PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote: > Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three > > packages remaining: > ... > > These packages are: > > > > - pychecker > > - python-pqueue > > - python-egenix-mxba

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Jérôme Marant
Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three > packages remaining: ... > These packages are: > > - pychecker > - python-pqueue > - python-egenix-mxbase > - python1.5-imaging > - python1.5-psycopg I've also seen python1.5-orbit in

Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Matthias Klose
It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three packages remaining: - pydb: http://bugs.debian.org/119203 Not yet ported to 2.1, but we do have an alterbate debugger available (idle). - python-pam: http://bugs.debian.org/119213 See http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/py