Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:51:56 -0400, Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> I believe it is closer to the current process than >> policy-process.(html|sgml|txt), but not yet spot-on. I think if >> someone were to match it to practice, it would help

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:51:56 -0400, Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:43:14AM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: >> I also think that the process is not clear to everybody. There is an >> policy-process.txt, but that doesn't seem to be current. From >> Anthony's mail abo

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Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > FWIW Reviewing an AM report and an application is nothing near a small > 5 minutes task. I believe it's rather 30 minutes of work per applicant > if you do it seriously enough. Creating an account should though > (meaning I don't know if it is, but I

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:43:14AM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: >> I also think that the process is not clear to everybody. There is an >> policy-process.txt, but that doesn't seem to be current. It is almost completely wrong. It will not be present in the

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-17 Thread Clint Adams
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:43:14AM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > I also think that the process is not clear to everybody. There is an > policy-process.txt, but that doesn't seem to be current. From Anthony's > mail about the delegation: Marga put this up: http://wiki.debian.org/PolicyChangesProces

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:45:25PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > or the tech-ctte's involvement in technical improvement of Debian before > > a conflict exists. > > Well, with my Policy delegate hat on, I'd certainly welcome more help in > that area, bu

Re: Q: Steve McIntyre: 2IC vs. DPL

2008-03-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 08:54:27PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: >Steve, > >You served a term as "Assistant Project Leader". What are the >differences between the job you did then and the job you would >do as DPL? Hi Clint, Mainly, I would expect to push some more high-profile issues than when I was

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:35:18AM +0100, Nacho Barrientos Arias wrote: >Hello, > >If you get elected, what will you do to prevent people from waiting >for weeks (and usually for months) to see their account created after >DAM approval? Hi Nacho, NM is one of quite a few areas in Debian that I'd

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11327 March 1977, Pierre Habouzit wrote: >> We need to break that logic. I would like to talk with James and try to >> convince him to create accounts as they come. It's well known that small >> task (when they take less than 5 minutes) are usually best done "on the >> fly" instead of accumulat

Re: Q: Small tasks best on the fly? was: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, MJ Ray wrote: > Is creating accounts really now a sub-two-minute task? If so, that's > great, but I believed there was still often a lot of multi-step > independent double-checking in that task. Honestly I don't know. But if it's not, then it gives us at least a precise idea o

Re: Q: Small tasks best on the fly? was: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 17/03/2008, MJ Ray wrote: > Is creating accounts really now a sub-two-minute task? If so, that's > great, but I believed there was still often a lot of multi-step > independent double-checking in that task. If not so, is that sooo long that there are only a couple of runs each *

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:35:35AM +, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > We need to break that logic. I would like to talk with James and try to > convince him to create accounts as they come. It's well known that small > task (when they take less than 5 minutes) are usually best done "on the > fly" inst

Re: Q: Small tasks best on the fly? was: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread MJ Ray
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, MJ Ray wrote: > > Where is this well known? I thought opinion was divided. [...] > > I must admit that I've read some "Getting Things Done" related literature > and that this organization method usually suggests to do small tasks on

Re: Q: Small tasks best on the fly? was: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:40:18AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > GTD is quite popular and has been discussed on planet Debian several times > together with the "Inbox Zero" principle... that's why I said "well-known". > But you're right that I should have given more references. Note that the wh

Re: All Candidates: Do you plan to be prominently visible during your term?

2008-03-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Saturday 15 March 2008 22:40, Marc Haber wrote: > > Additionally, it may be a good idea to have regular "IRC conferences" > > where the DPL is available to answer questions. A good time would > > probably be a week after bits have been posted so t

Re: Q: Small tasks best on the fly? was: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, MJ Ray wrote: > Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] It's well known that small > > task (when they take less than 5 minutes) are usually best done "on the > > fly" instead of accumulating them. [...] > > Where is this well known? I thought opinion was divided

Q: Small tasks best on the fly? was: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread MJ Ray
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] It's well known that small > task (when they take less than 5 minutes) are usually best done "on the > fly" instead of accumulating them. [...] Where is this well known? I thought opinion was divided. See Ganging your mosquito tasks http://www.4

Re: Q: All: Account creation latency

2008-03-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
(resending to list, I responded privately by error) Hi, On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Nacho Barrientos Arias wrote: > If you get elected, what will you do to prevent people from waiting > for weeks (and usually for months) to see their account created after > DAM approval? Account creation is not the onl