Re: What exactly is this GR supposed to do?

2010-09-16 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > My main problem with this text is that while it may fit to the current > realities, it makes no sense from a formalistic point of view, as large > parts of the text seem to imply there was no way for non-packagers yet > and there were no

Re: Draft amendment: Welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian Developers with upload access

2010-09-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 15/09/10 at 16:49 +0200, Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: Lucas Nussbaum 2010-09-15 <20100915141740.ga21...@xanadu.blop.info> > > * Establish procedures to evaluate and accept contributors of > > non-packaging work as Debian Developers. > > > > Additionally, the Debian project acknowledges that th

Re: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members

2010-09-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Charles Plessy: > I wonder why not simply inviting the Debian Account Managers to > accept the long term contributors as DDs, even if they to not > maintain packages? Would an amendement be welcome? Seems reasonable. (I'm among those who believe that voting rights are more fundamental than upl

Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:45:52AM +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:48:02PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > > I like that a lot more than the other wording, thus seconded. > > > Please don't go and make this more confusing for me. As far as I > > can tell this wa

Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 04:08:50PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:40:09PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > I'll let the patch linger for a couple of days -- actually, I'll be away > > > for most part of tomorrow -- and then I'll apply it, posting a new > > > complete d

Re: Draft amendment: Welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian Developers with upload access

2010-09-16 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:17:40 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Before pushing it forward as an amendment, I'd like to hear opinions about > this: we have had problems with GRs proposing orthogonal options in the past. > This amendment proposal discusses two things that are orthogonal (giving full > u

Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:51:51PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Stefano's DPL platform is actually quite clear on the subject: > After seeing the results of this choice, it will always be possible to > change the procedure, especially if a later DPL is elected with a > platform that goes more to

Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 02:03:01PM +0100, Matthew Johnson a écrit : > > OTOH, if we pass a GR that looks like "we'll give them upload rights" (because > it just says "they are DDs") and then they aren't given upload rights some > people might feel upset that they voted for it. Just because it's no

Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Thu Sep 16 14:58, Charles Plessy wrote: > > I don't think we should open a second way to get upload rights to the > > archive, > > so I would *not* want to remove that part. > > So do you think that if “albeit without upload access to the Debian archive” > is > not present, the GR will preven

Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:48:02PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > I like that a lot more than the other wording, thus seconded. > Please don't go and make this more confusing for me. As far as I > can tell this wasn't meant to be amendment yet. He will probably > accept this or something si

Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:40:09PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > I'll let the patch linger for a couple of days -- actually, I'll be away > > for most part of tomorrow -- and then I'll apply it, posting a new > > complete draft here shortly thereafter. > So I'm not considering this currently as an