Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-03 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! > can you please explain to me, in a short sentence, what do you want to > achieve? not how, but precisely what. Have a good way to get in touch with the design team/other core gnome teams that is not real-time and be able to participate in discussions about desktop-wide design topics. > Dav

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-03 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi; sorry, I'm attaching this to the latest email on the thread, but it's really a request to both Johannes and Dave. can you please explain to me, in a short sentence, what do you want to achieve? not how, but precisely what. I've seen people going round in circles and I still haven't understoo

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-03 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: > Here are two reasons I could see for people wanting their IRC > conversations to be unlogged, along with my solution: > > * Sharing sensitive information. > - Don't do that on IRC. Use a private chat if you have to. >  But if it's really sensi

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-03 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 13:05 +, Øyvind Kolås wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Sam Thursfield wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > >> On 06/02/11 02:02, Robert Ancell wrote: > >>> > >>> A huge +1 on this. IRC is much more productive, but it's crucial that >

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-03 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! > This discussion reminds me of the one we had about switching to DVCS > some years back. At that time, most of the core developers wanted to > use git but most of the rest were opposed to that. While I don't claim > this situation is the same, this discussion is also about which tools > to

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Allan Day wrote: > Dave Neary wrote: >> There is no transparency about what the design team is, who has >> what skills, etc. >> >> Many stakeholders and developers who have design problems do not have >> any relationship with the design team at all. >> >> This is the problem I think we need to

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-03 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
Hi, On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > I really don't think IRC logs are a good way of communicating anything. It's > better than unlogged, but really only marginally. This discussion reminds me of the one we had about switching to DVCS some years back. At that time, most of t

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-03 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Sam Thursfield wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Dave Neary wrote: >> On 06/02/11 02:02, Robert Ancell wrote: >>> >>> A huge +1 on this.  IRC is much more productive, but it's crucial that >>> it's logged for people who can't attend.  (I'm always hitting t

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-03 Thread Robert Ancell
On 3 June 2011 19:55, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > On 06/02/11 02:02, Robert Ancell wrote: >> >> A huge +1 on this.  IRC is much more productive, but it's crucial that >> it's logged for people who can't attend.  (I'm always hitting this >> problem in GNOME trying to work out what happened while I

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Thursfield
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > On 06/02/11 02:02, Robert Ancell wrote: >> >> A huge +1 on this.  IRC is much more productive, but it's crucial that >> it's logged for people who can't attend.  (I'm always hitting this >> problem in GNOME trying to work out what happen

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, On 06/02/11 02:02, Robert Ancell wrote: A huge +1 on this. IRC is much more productive, but it's crucial that it's logged for people who can't attend. (I'm always hitting this problem in GNOME trying to work out what happened while I was sleeping in Australia). This works really well in Ub