Re: [Development] RFC: Defaulting to or enforcing UTF-8 locales on Unix systems

2019-11-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
Hi Sorry, it looks like this thread is not progressing in a calm and reasoned manner, the way it was meant to be. And I'm very much to blame. So I apologise for the strong language and passionate opinions. I'm deleting most of what I had written as a reply so we can start over. Let's start

Re: [Development] RFC: Defaulting to or enforcing UTF-8 locales on Unix systems

2019-11-16 Thread André Pönitz
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 05:47:04PM -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Friday, 15 November 2019 16:23:24 PST André Pönitz wrote: > > > The questions are: > > > 1) do we want to prevent another library from accidentally unsetting it? > > > 2) do we want child processes to use the same? > > > > > >

Re: [Development] RFC: Defaulting to or enforcing UTF-8 locales on Unix systems

2019-11-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Friday, 15 November 2019 00:52:55 PST Eike Ziller wrote: > - You state that as if that were a fact imposed on us from some external > entity, and as if that patch were already in. No, but that's the direction that started this conversation. If we're not going to do that, then the entire

Re: [Development] RFC: Defaulting to or enforcing UTF-8 locales on Unix systems

2019-11-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Friday, 15 November 2019 16:23:24 PST André Pönitz wrote: > > The questions are: > > 1) do we want to prevent another library from accidentally unsetting it? > > 2) do we want child processes to use the same? > > > > Note the answers for both questions must be the same, for the solution is > >