Good to see this post Andy.
For those concerned about having a full blown ALE station that scan, though
it is preferred, it is not fully required.
You can go to an established ALE channel and stay fixed. Make a long ALE
call, and the scanning station(s) that can hear you will respond to you on
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:18 PM, aa777888athotmaildotcom
aa777...@hotmail.com wrote:
I've gave PCALE a very good try. As implemented it suffers from several
problems:
1. It is equipment specific and intensive. You either need an SGC tuner set
up for bypass-on-receive (the only brand I
Many rigs can be brought into play for a variety of services and be a joy to
own. This thread focus's on digital modes, so .
I love my TS-480HX, and it is used on the base for 24/7 digital ALE
operations. Its better performance due to NOT having two meters and four
forty bands improves the
This is not really correct with PC-ALE and a modern receiver that has
a internal antenna tuner. I have used PC-ALE with a TS2000 and an
Icom 746 Pro and the tuner in both rigs memorizes settings for each
transmission
How fast does the rig need to scan?
philw de ka1gmn
In Multipsk and PC-ALE there are settings that enable the user to select the
scanning rate . The scan rate needs to match the typical length of a
sounding or a individual call. . By that I mean, if a station sounds for
15 seconds but you change frequency every 30 seconds, you are going to miss
Thanks for the explanation of scanning. I don't think the scanning part of
this will be in the cards for me right now, but I am still interesting in
participating.
I agree with Charles, ALE does have a lid factor in that you can transmit
automatically and on top of another QSO. I am advocating
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote:
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:18 PM, aa777888athotmaildotcom
aa777...@... wrote:
I've gave PCALE a very good try. As implemented it suffers from several
problems:
1. It is equipment specific and intensive. You
I have modified my ALE station and during daylight hours I will be
scanning the following channels while in the shack most of the day
(I'll add 80M later tonight)
7074 USB
*7102 USB
*10145.5 USB
14074 USB
*14109USB
* denotes standard ALE data channels commonly used by ALE
Andy--are you saying that the TS2000 and 746 will tune BEFORE transmit
(assuming valid tune data for that freq is there)? If so that's really great,
but it still speaks to my issue on requiring particular and more elaborate
equipment to operate real ALE, i.e. scanning ALE (which is the
I should point out that the ALE software (both PC-ALE and Multipsk) have
anti-lid features in that you can easily set-up the software NOT to transmit
but continue to scan when you are out of the shack. You have to tell it each
time, the sofware does not know if you are in the shack or not...
14074 - 141a or ALE400?
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
I have modified my ALE station and during daylight hours I will be
scanning the following channels while in the shack most of the day
(I'll add 80M later tonight)
7074 USB
*7102 USB
No date or time stamp but I had part of a
VK3 call on the screen from overnight.
John, W0JAB
in the center of
fly over country
actually, I am now doing both...in a crude way. PC-ALE is controlling
my rig and scanning standard ALE . I also have Multipsk running, not
scanning, but it will sound an alert if a ALE400 signal is detected.
PC-ALE will not pause however, since it does not know anything about
ALE400, so I am not
Ok thanks. For simple QSOs, what mode within standard ALE do you recommend?
philw de ka1gmn
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
I am scanning in standard ALE. I would love the ability to dual scan
(both regular and ALE400) but software does not permit
AMD is usually the one most use for a quick chat after a link is
established. Since I do not use Multipsk for ALE 141 I am not really sure
how AMD versus DTM or DBM is set up. ALE 400 is better for regular rag
chews.
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Phil Williams ka1...@gmail.com wrote:
I think what is far more likely is that PC-ALE users simply won't care, and
that as use of PC-ALE increases, so will the harmful inteference events
associated with it.
The system was not designed for use on amateur radio's shared spectrum, and
that is why it's use is not appropriate there.
Hello,
Once an effective, simple and robust SELCAL standard is developed (again
IMHO it should be a logical extension of the existing RSID and Call ID
standards) it could eventually be parlayed into a more modern and
effective variant of ALE. By using
RR for the nice SELCAL idea. I'm not
Hello Andy,
In the auxiliary functions window, you can choose to send an AMD or a DTM or
DBM message:
* AMD is the standard one,
* but DBM is the best way (the most reliable).
73
Patrick
- Original Message -
From: Andy obrien
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday,
Patrick,
Thank you.
philw de ka1gmn
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Patrick Lindecker f6...@free.fr wrote:
Hello Andy,
In the auxiliary functions window, you can choose to send an AMD or a DTM
or DBM message:
* AMD is the standard one,
* but DBM is the best way (the most reliable).
Well, it was not really a GREAT experiment in the grand scheme of
things... but it worked . Phil KA1GMN proved my earlier point about
ALE.. despite a lack of overall robustness comapred to other digital
modes... it IS USEFUL for finding people. Today I was scanning
multiple frequencies and
It would have been a great experiment if I had known what I was doing.
In typical philw fashion, I jumped head first and thrashed around, randomly
spinning knobs, flipping switches, tapping on meters, toggling the mains,
and throwing levers in a completely random fashion.
Eventually, I managed
I have now added 3584 and 3596 US6 to my scan for the evening.
Andy K3UK
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
I have modified my ALE station and during daylight hours I will be
scanning the following channels while in the shack most of the day
(I'll add 80M
All,
Does anyone know where I can find a 13 pin DIN plug switch box? I use the ACC2
socket on my Kenwood TS2000 to run sound card modes and connect my Kam Plus
TNC. A switch would come in handy.
Tony -K2MO
You can still get serial port switches that work well for this, they have a
rotary switch inside, giving you plenty of options.
Here's a place that advertises them, at swap-fests you can get them for next to
nothing. Use RS-232 plugs to hook everything up, I use one for a
digital-or-microphone
Serial port switch link:
http://sewelldirect.com/serial-db9-manual-switch-4.asp
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
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