Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-11 Thread J. Moen
h each other and tolerate those who are into different facets of this great hobby. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: "John Becker, WØJAB" To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL c

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-11 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Sorry to both of you. In the last week my mind has been elsewhere after my check up with my cancer doctor. Really need testing to be sure but right now he thinks that it may have return. But to answer both. No it is not needed. And if I may add that I only use it when connected to a BBS. Makes t

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-11 Thread KH6TY
John, I asked you the same question, but you did not answer mine. :-( Just as I thought, the only reason to allow Pactor-III on 60m is for Winlink's benefit. Let's file comments to the FCC to allow any modes 500 Hz wide or less so at least 4 or 5 stations can use the channel for QSO and Emcomm

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-11 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 06:27 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote: >Another question was whether Pactor III's bandwidth was really necessary for >live keyboard to keyboard QSOs. I guess that was an anti-Pactor III question, >but that one also never got answered. Jim to answer that I really would have to say that for keyboard

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread Dave Wright
On May 10, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Chris Jewell wrote: > Rick Ellison writes: > "recommending that instead of authorizing only PSK-31 and Pactor-III, > that the FCC instead permit all publicly-documented data modes " > > So, has Pactor III every been publicly-documented??? Dave K3DCW Real radio b

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread J. Moen
is a renewed interest among military, agency and NGOs), it is nice to have a dog in the hunt." That may help explain the ARRL's action, I guess. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: "John Becker, WØJAB" To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, Ma

[digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread Chris Jewell
Rick Ellison writes: ... > This just makes no sense to me why you would push Pactor III on a > channelized frequency setting.. A good question: I was thinking of sending in a comment on that NPRM, recommending that instead of authorizing only PSK-31 and Pactor-III, that the FCC instead permit a

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread hugh britt
d or recive any messages.I type about 65 wpm. Any advice or instruction as what I should do.I have run out of things to try.Thanks Hugh kd4txp.73 From: KH6TY To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 10, 2010 3:19:58 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why does th

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread F.R. Ashley
ohn Becker, WØJAB"" To: Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support... >I can clearly see that this anti Pactor rant will Never end. > > John, W0JAB > >

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
I don't know Skip. Tell us. You seem to have an answer for everything and everyone. after thinking about that, don't tell us. I really don't care what you are others think about pactor. I like it and will operate it. John, W0JAB

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread KH6TY
> ESP - There is a difference between typing and "touch" typing. Google it. I did. "Touch typing is typing without using the sense of sight to find the keys." *"Typing* is the process of inputting text into a device, such as a typewriter , cell phone , computer , or a calculator , by pressin

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 03:12 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote: >John, > >I was specifically asking only about Pactor-III keyboard-to-keyboard QSO's, >not Pactor-II or Pactor I. Skip, just because you are anyone else "can't" copy P2 or P3 does not mean it does not happen. Belive me, it happens ! most of my keyboard to keyb

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread KH6TY
John, I was specifically asking only about Pactor-III keyboard-to-keyboard QSO's, not Pactor-II or Pactor I. > As for a typing. touch typing is a thing of the past. How do you personally carry on a keyboard-to-keyboard conversation without typing? 73 - Skip KH6TY John Becker, WØJAB wrot

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Often, very often. All pactor modes. As for a typing. touch typing is a thing of the past. At 02:19 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote: >John, > >How frequently do you use Pactor-III, keyboard to keyboard? > >How fast do you touch type?

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread KH6TY
John, How frequently do you use Pactor-III, keyboard to keyboard? How fast do you touch type? 73 - Skip KH6TY John Becker, WØJAB wrote: So my friend I do think WINLINK has a lot to do with it when even a keyboard to keyboard QSO get's phone calls from some lid. But I guess, I'll look

RE: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
I would belive that if it was not for that fact that shortly after a PACTOR QSO the phone has rang telling me what orifice I should shove my pactor equipment into. Leaving no guessing what so ever about it. Then not even giving me time to say I was in a 2 person QSO. That my friend was the last

RE: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread Dave AA6YQ
>>>AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of "John Becker, WOJAB" Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:50 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL c

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
I can clearly see that this anti Pactor rant will Never end. John, W0JAB

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread KH6TY
What it means is that the channel will be dominated with "personal" Winlink Pactor-III traffic, completely filling it up, with no sharing, or any space left for truly narrowband modes like PSK31 - all in the name of emergency communications. It has proven impossible for a Pactor-III ARQ station

RE: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread David Little
live the Queen David KD4NUE -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Ellison Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:36 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for P

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread mikea
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 02:53:16PM +0100, Ian Wade G3NRW wrote: > From: Andy obrien > Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 Time: 08:08:41 > > >and > >2K80J2D (which is generally known as > >PACTOR-III) ??? are popular narrowband data modes. > > Since when was Pactor III a narrow-band mode? In comparison to

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread Ian Wade G3NRW
From: Andy obrien Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 Time: 08:08:41 >and >2K80J2D (which is generally known as >PACTOR-III) – are popular narrowband data modes. Since when was Pactor III a narrow-band mode? -- 73 Ian, G3NRW

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread KH6TY
When did Pactor-III (up to 2200 Hz wide, I think), suddenly become a "narrowband" data mode? 73 - Skip KH6TY Andy obrien wrote: It seems odd to me too Rick. However, i do note... means of on-off keying (emission designator 150HA1A) continues to be used by amateur stations because of i

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread Andy obrien
It seems odd to me too Rick. However, i do note... means of on-off keying (emission designator 150HA1A) continues to be used by amateur stations because of its reliability in difficult propagation conditions. ARRL also states that the other requested emission designators – 60H0J2B (which is gener

[digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

2010-05-10 Thread Rick Ellison
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-76A1.pdf This just makes no sense to me why you would push Pactor III on a channelized frequency setting.. 73 Rick N2AMG www.n2amg.com