Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Gerrey . Mary-Catherine
Thanks everyone for all the links.  And I thought I would be bored this weekend, lol.  Seems like the consensus is that Model Glue is the framework of choice these days.  Any votes/biases for anything else? mcg[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -To: discussion@acfug.orgFrom: Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Gerrey . Mary-Catherine
Yes, I have seen the Corfield article as well as he has a nice chart (link is at work).  Also the Pet Market idea was really neat.  Very interested in SAM; waiting on docs and hoping some will be out before CFUnited. Thanks, mcg[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -To: discussion@acfug.orgFrom: Douglas Knu

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Cameron Childress
MCG - There's a pretty good quickstart guide for MG http://www.model-glue.org/quickstart/index.html If you have an hour or so to sit down and go through the guide, you should have a feel for whether or not it's suitable for your development team's skill set. It does have a lower learning curve

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Gerrey . Mary-Catherine
Thanks for the link - I will sift through the information this weekend.  Let me elaborate a little on my situation.  My team, of which I seem to be the technical head (hence, I make the architectual decisions), consists of me and 2 borrowed programmers that I get for around 3 months (due to some el

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Teddy Payne
The new ACFUG site redesign that Steve is referring to has been projected to use Model-Glue.  The version of the Model-Glue has not been locked in yet.Model-Glue 2.0 is in Beta.  I may recommend using 1.1.10 to get new developers into the idea of using Model-Glue.  Reactor is not the defacto data

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Tom McNeer
I'll second the recommendation for Model-Glue. I've built apps using MachII, and I've having to re-learn some stuff now that I'm working with Model-Glue. But overall, I would say that Model-Glue will be easier to learn. Just know that either requires learning object-oriented architecture, which is

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Douglas Knudsen
that Jedi in LA has a series on MG too http://ray.camdenfamily.com/ DK On 6/9/06, Teddy Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree with Dean. My focus this year will be the true understanding of Model-Glue 2.0. Model-Glue 2.0 uses Reactor for ColdFusion the data abstraction and ColdSpring for

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Teddy Payne
I agree with Dean.  My focus this year will be the true understanding of Model-Glue 2.0.  Model-Glue 2.0 uses Reactor for ColdFusion the data abstraction and ColdSpring for the bean resources.  These three technologies are getting very positive reviews and being actively developed.  Model-Glue:  w

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Douglas Knudsen
interestingly a google search on 'framework coldfusion' http://www.google.com/search?hs=UC6&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=framework+coldfusion&btnG=Search has a ACFUG hit on top...woot! Mr Corfield has a PDF on them http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=8

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Teddy Payne
Using a framework is analagous to knowing how to build a house.  You will have people who are very specialized in their knowledge.  There will be people that are great with plumbing, drywall, roofing ... etc.  If you plan to architect this site, you may want to consider how much you expect the juni

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Steven Ross
Thats what we are going to use for the ACFUG site rebuild... any Model Gluers out there want to jump in? On 6/9/06, Dean H. Saxe < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I *really* like Model Glue.  A lot.  I used it in HacmeShipping (being released next week from Foundstone) and it took me a few days to get up

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Gerrey . Mary-Catherine
How quickly do you see team members with little OO experience picking this up (MG is OO only, correct?)? mcg[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -To: discussion@acfug.orgFrom: "Dean H. Saxe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 06/09/2006 02:36PMSubject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] FrameworksI *reall

[ACFUG Discuss] Ajax help

2006-06-09 Thread Steven Ross
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Dean H. Saxe
I *really* like Model Glue.  A lot.  I used it in HacmeShipping (being released next week from Foundstone) and it took me a few days to get up and running.  After that it was easy-squeezy.-dhs Dean H. Saxe, CEH[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[U]nconstitutional behavior by the authorities is constrained only by t

[ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Gerrey . Mary-Catherine
So I have this large, new application we are DESIGNING (yes, actually taking the time to do this) and the question of framework/methodology is starting to come up, since we are working on prototyping aspects of the system.  The theory is that we will be running this on CFMX 7; but this isn't set in

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] great meeting last night

2006-06-09 Thread Teddy Payne
Charlie,Thank you for having giving me the oppurtunity to speak.  I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and look forward to presenting again in the near future.Another large thank you to John Mason for hosting the event.  The room that John had secured for us was impressive.  Thank you to everyone w